Post AcdzjKUIIoQApyeC0m by jm3@trunk.lol
(DIR) More posts by jm3@trunk.lol
(DIR) Post #AcbpI94TFkXPkl314i by oluOnline@social.gfsc.studio
2023-12-07T22:20:53Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
Does anyone know how the internet archive works, in terms of things like:- are they hoping the archive will last the next 100 hundred years? the next 1,000? if so, what are they doing to ensure this?- what is it hosted on? I did a double take at Amazon being involved with the beginnings (according to Wikpedia) but understandable I guessstill googling so might answer my own questions but thought some of youse might have cool answers.
(DIR) Post #AcbpIAJkcQM3cRCjWy by oluOnline@social.gfsc.studio
2023-12-07T22:27:29Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
I've always got the vague/not so vague (people telling me they "visited some of their servers") impression it's all privately managed servers somewhere, but in that case do they have stewardship rules and stuff? @internetarchive i forgot youse might even be on here to ask!
(DIR) Post #AcbpIAzE8DX1h4brBA by internetarchive@mastodon.archive.org
2023-12-08T19:14:56Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@oluOnline 👋 You might try starting with some of our FAQs at https://help.archive.org/help/category/archive-org/archive-org-general-information/ If you're in the Bay Area (either living or visiting), we give tours of our library (and talk about our server infrastructure) every Friday!
(DIR) Post #AcdzjKUIIoQApyeC0m by jm3@trunk.lol
2023-12-09T16:22:56Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@oluOnline @internetarchive I would ask @textfiles, he’s given presentations and talks about topics like this.
(DIR) Post #AcdzjMHxbdkAQItN44 by textfiles@mastodon.archive.org
2023-12-09T20:21:42Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@jm3 @oluOnline @internetarchive
(DIR) Post #Ace0JIgSUDB7fTUOZc by textfiles@mastodon.archive.org
2023-12-09T20:23:05Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@jm3 @oluOnline @internetarchive Just to get in front of the Amazon thing - what happened was the co-founder, Brewster Kahle, sold a company in the 90s to Amazon for millions of dollars of stock, found himself fantastically rich, and went "well, now I finally get to be a librarian". Amazon didn't start it, run it, provide anything in the standard way you're thinking. They just paid the guy for his previous company (Alexa Internet).
(DIR) Post #Ace0JJwRoFYvZLyg8O by textfiles@mastodon.archive.org
2023-12-09T20:23:55Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@jm3 @oluOnline @internetarchive It is hosted on private servers in multiple cities and countries. We are our own data provider.
(DIR) Post #Ace0JKvm8EcQdYfej2 by textfiles@mastodon.archive.org
2023-12-09T20:27:37Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@jm3 @oluOnline @internetarchive Now, let's veer into "Jason's Opinion, Absolutely Not The Internet Archive's Opinion", which is that >100 plans are ridiculous, hubris beyond all reason, the product of being led to believe humans have effective, solid agency and are not agents of chaos and upheaval.
(DIR) Post #Ace0JM3xvGlS9FVi88 by textfiles@mastodon.archive.org
2023-12-09T20:28:55Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@jm3 @oluOnline @internetarchive to that end, the archive has had a number of approaches and policies with the data it stores (beyond Wayback Machine which is its own thing) but generally, we make as much of the data free to download at all time, we encourage other copies, we foster discussion of decentralized storage, we maintain razor-thin margins so we're not chasing golden rainbows of hope.
(DIR) Post #Ace0JN7ty7VVRkMMu8 by textfiles@mastodon.archive.org
2023-12-09T20:29:45Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@jm3 @oluOnline @internetarchive The Wayback's the crown jewels and right now there are the aforementioned copies in multiple countries, forms, and places. with a high high focus on maintaining parity between all copies.
(DIR) Post #Ace3zLeu7E56v4VIdU by oluOnline@social.gfsc.studio
2023-12-09T20:43:28Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@textfiles @jm3 @internetarchive this is pretty much what I was hoping would be said but I wasn't sure what opinions were lol
(DIR) Post #Ace4QR20FTBtOvDxFA by oluOnline@social.gfsc.studio
2023-12-09T20:45:36Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@textfiles @jm3 @internetarchive thanks so much for the detailed answer!I assume there's no public facing policy on the longevity stuff right? (couldn't find it in the FAQs)