Post AcbYISJY0cFWDKf68W by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
(DIR) More posts by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
(DIR) Post #AcWat7xwxe9bL08KFk by alyx@frogs.lgbt
2023-12-06T06:41:51Z
9 likes, 2 repeats
@ashten @natalie @Drand Was this scraping project run past an ethics review, seeing as it's being performed with MIT resources?
(DIR) Post #AcWiZc8Lt5oWk8ClvM by logoninternet@mastodon.social
2023-12-06T08:10:47Z
13 likes, 2 repeats
@ashten @natalie @Drand also thought this was fun from his website bio. sounds like wired chose him from a field of many for some elite list, right? nope. it's a list of people nominating their friends and colleagues. wired has little to do with it besides printing the text. seems like this bold fighter of disinfo doesn't mind stretching the truth a bit when it comes to their own career.
(DIR) Post #AcWwdvHY2FLGeBSHMO by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-12-06T10:49:58.356009Z
11 likes, 5 repeats
@ashten @natalie @Drand Oh wow "Federated Moderation" (not a thing) and "Mastodon Network" (also not a thing) what a joke.
(DIR) Post #AcWwiIrOJY2KvpJELw by shebang@freespeech.group
2023-12-06T10:51:15.392551Z
6 likes, 1 repeats
@lanodan @natalie @ashten @Drand Everytime I hear “Mastodon network” my gorge rises. It really pisses me off for some reason. :blobrage:
(DIR) Post #AcWxv8tclspVkQ2X1k by Hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net
2023-12-06T11:04:46.683059Z
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How do you know that's what it is?
(DIR) Post #AcWyxv7eXQHvqtURSC by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-12-06T11:16:01.783179Z
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@ashten @Drand @natalie And looking in the logs I don't think I even want to block that IP because it's pretty much evidence against bullshit.- A ton of requests to /users/lanodan so just the profile. By ton I mean multiple times a second and multiple times an hour, kind of thing that would be a banning offense- 9 requests to /objects/ (ActivityPub posts data for Pleroma) so pretty much nothing- Only on the 2023-11-28 they grabbed /api/v1/timelines/public (MastodonAPI) with mastodonpy as User-Agent (everything else uses Python-urllib/3.9), without authentication on my instance you'd get only my public posts, I post unlisted by default so it's only some replies (like this one)- They also scrapped parts of my blog, with URLs ending in </a> and %3C/a%3E do you even HTML?
(DIR) Post #AcWztaXpCiQSpKEK5A by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-12-06T11:26:29.953016Z
2 likes, 1 repeats
@Drand @ashten @natalie btw in terms of amount of requests:$ grep -Rc 18.4.38.176 /var/log/syslog/NightmareMoon/local7_nginx/2023/1* | grep -v ':0$'/var/log/syslog/NightmareMoon/local7_nginx/2023/11/27.log:41/var/log/syslog/NightmareMoon/local7_nginx/2023/11/29.log:287/var/log/syslog/NightmareMoon/local7_nginx/2023/11/04.log:41/var/log/syslog/NightmareMoon/local7_nginx/2023/11/28.log:251/var/log/syslog/NightmareMoon/local7_nginx/2023/11/30.log:57/var/log/syslog/NightmareMoon/local7_nginx/2023/11/24.log:1/var/log/syslog/NightmareMoon/local7_nginx/2023/12/01.log:338/var/log/syslog/NightmareMoon/local7_nginx/2023/12/06.log:533/var/log/syslog/NightmareMoon/local7_nginx/2023/12/05.log:502/var/log/syslog/NightmareMoon/local7_nginx/2023/12/02.log:340/var/log/syslog/NightmareMoon/local7_nginx/2023/12/03.log:194/var/log/syslog/NightmareMoon/local7_nginx/2023/12/04.log:307
(DIR) Post #AcX1CQjU0bnHqsEP5s by cereal@shitposter.club
2023-12-06T11:41:32.076728Z
6 likes, 1 repeats
@alyx @ashten @natalie @Drand as if MIT had ethics
(DIR) Post #AcX1dWs5IEtui3Azk8 by vaartis@pl.kotobank.ch
2023-12-06T11:48:10.195724Z
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@cheri @natalie nginx just reported this:[warn] 2362466#0: *9513881 upstream server temporarily disabled while connecting to upstream, client: 18.4.38.176, server: pl.kotobank.ch, request: "GET /users/vaartis HTTP/1.1", upstream: "http://[::1]:(local port here)/users/vaartis", host: "pl.kotobank.ch"I'm not really sure what it means as I've never explicitly set up routing to ipv6 in nginx, it's just `listen 443 ssl http2;` there
(DIR) Post #AcX2TRo9MdQY415o1I by vaartis@pl.kotobank.ch
2023-12-06T11:57:35.722025Z
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@cheri @natalie I might just be plain wrong about this, though. Maybe I have my nginx misoncfigured, in which case I guess it just resolved to ipv6 for these requests and failed them without respoding successfully once since the 3rd
(DIR) Post #AcX9f1YPV5irnECJw8 by kkarhan@mstdn.social
2023-12-06T06:55:57Z
2 likes, 1 repeats
@ashten @natalie @Drand consider sueing for damages as well as publicly shaming the IP-Adresses and ASNs used for said attacks by submitting them to my #DROP blocklist https://github.com/greyhat-academy/lists.d/blob/main/drop.ipv4.block.list.tsvBy creating an issue:https://github.com/greyhat-academy/lists.d/issue/new
(DIR) Post #AcXCrfIdqv3qOpXdFQ by PunishedD@poa.st
2023-12-06T13:52:14.352808Z
2 likes, 0 repeats
@stanford @natalie Block or redirect him anyway. He'll just try again later.
(DIR) Post #AcXD2h7HREOTDfUDVA by graf@poa.st
2023-12-06T13:54:12.137389Z
8 likes, 0 repeats
@PunishedD @stanford @natalie I emailed MIT about it
(DIR) Post #AcXDLR2VR70yrMBoO0 by PunishedD@poa.st
2023-12-06T13:57:37.563940Z
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@graf @natalie @stanford Good, but that is insufficiently vindictive. They aren't going to punish him.
(DIR) Post #AcXFNdoD8A3ex0gNzE by RaHoWaJoe@poa.st
2023-12-06T14:20:26.249104Z
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@graf @PunishedD @natalie @stanford Is there anything we can do in the meantime? Not like safety, but something like boobytrapping a post?
(DIR) Post #AcXFkiIoacDfY201Ds by graf@poa.st
2023-12-06T14:24:32.419807Z
8 likes, 2 repeats
@RaHoWaJoe @PunishedD @natalie @stanford apparently the guy has stopped after a couple of us emailed MIT/him personally. I imagine he'll be back but it's good opsec to always sprinkle some truth in with untruths so somebody profiling you ends up looking like a retard (or just make shit up 24/7 if you want)
(DIR) Post #AcXFzfsfsKi8NguFJg by RaHoWaJoe@poa.st
2023-12-06T14:27:18.724607Z
3 likes, 1 repeats
@graf @PunishedD @natalie @stanford Can you call my work phone at (202) 488-0400 and give me more instruction on how to do this?Tyvm
(DIR) Post #AcXJ2QYnapWvb2c7cW by coolboymew@shitposter.club
2023-12-06T15:01:23.696334Z
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@shebang @natalie @lanodan @ashten @Drand it proves how much of an absolute ignoramus whoever says that is
(DIR) Post #AcXJ2ioLjkfGCU1nMG by istvan@noagendasocial.com
2023-12-06T15:01:28Z
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@graf @stanford @natalie @PunishedD @RaHoWaJoe Have I mentioned the season I spent picking cotton in Northeast China? It's quite the story.
(DIR) Post #AcXJgO9zw44lji4Izo by 7666@comp.lain.la
2023-12-06T15:08:33.437089Z
4 likes, 0 repeats
@ashten @natalie @Drand do you know how much shit I could do with $210k and yet it gets pissed away on a scraper bot. Incredible.
(DIR) Post #AcXKOmF7l3MnAXdG3k by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2023-12-06T15:16:35.846040Z
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@mischievoustomato @p @natalie @graf @milk @Drand @boody and cohost.org and bluesky 🤣
(DIR) Post #AcXKfoOszQdEmcJxsu by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2023-12-06T15:19:40.816092Z
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@mischievoustomato @p @natalie @graf @milk @Drand @boody bluesky has the early mastodon problemIt has people talking about using it and how bad the other site is and that is it
(DIR) Post #AcXKqCwqZoS1oRABEG by graf@poa.st
2023-12-06T15:21:36.010873Z
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@PurpCat @mischievoustomato @p @natalie @milk @Drand @boody i heard the full tilt homos were trying to make it 'their space' but i cant be assed to even bother going to look. not sure if gays fellating eachother on the timeline or people whining about xitter is worse tbh
(DIR) Post #AcXKwbX25WgznL8fbs by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2023-12-06T15:22:40.631838Z
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@graf @mischievoustomato @p @natalie @milk @Drand @boody bluesky is where an argument will devolve into posting dilation photos to prove you're really trans
(DIR) Post #AcXKz3Z4pidxJhGRto by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-12-06T15:23:10.972725Z
3 likes, 1 repeats
@graf @mischievoustomato @PurpCat @p @natalie @milk @Drand @boody I quit going because I don't want to see people's HRT progress noodz
(DIR) Post #AcXL52c5HeUU6SWaau by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2023-12-06T15:24:10.463444Z
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@Moon @mischievoustomato @p @natalie @graf @milk @Drand @boody I saw so many nudes of 500lb hogs with dicks swallowed up by the fat under the furry tags 🤣
(DIR) Post #AcXL7WXoyGaJVpiMKW by Chimera@clubcyberia.co
2023-12-06T15:24:45.392475Z
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@PurpCat @graf @Drand @boody @milk @mischievoustomato @natalie @p so it's the negaverse.
(DIR) Post #AcXLHdK0d15ZQZ4gLo by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2023-12-06T15:26:29.120199Z
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@mischievoustomato @p @natalie @graf @milk @Drand @boody bardfinns in a polycule now and having lots of esex nowhttps://rdrama.net/post/226867/so-bardfinns-in-an-online-polycule
(DIR) Post #AcXLQZnF7HeN5f0qpc by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2023-12-06T15:28:04.766776Z
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@mischievoustomato @p @natalie @graf @milk @Drand @boody what else did you expect from reddits most infamous sex pest and janny?
(DIR) Post #AcXLXDSwWmDPs0gSOG by EvilSandmich@poa.st
2023-12-06T15:29:23.827615Z
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@mischievoustomato @p @natalie @graf @Drand Yeah MIT had one of their own students ass-raped to death in prison for the "crime" of being smarter than them. Such a classy joint.
(DIR) Post #AcXLtQuXDhTXwLBR4a by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2023-12-06T15:33:19.015469Z
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@mischievoustomato @p @natalie @graf @milk @Drand @boody reddits most infamous mod and a wife beater
(DIR) Post #AcXS7tI36QthjgSXCq by r000t@ligma.pro
2023-12-06T16:43:04Z
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@lanodan @natalie @ashten @Drand >$210,000lmao, the people grifting fedi for low 5 figures to make csv files are gonna be *pissed*
(DIR) Post #AcXStJmWQSAZVZKNsW by r000t@ligma.pro
2023-12-06T16:51:39Z
4 likes, 1 repeats
@lanodan @natalie @ashten @Drand just btw wanted to point out:1) I make a throwaway instance and user that just says BEEP BOOP NOW ARCHVIING, follow like 5 instance admins from it, there's a *massive* fediblock campaign and related domains appear on "tier 0" blocklists years after the domain expired2) I make a tool that makes a single request that's indistinguishable from a web browser, there's a *massive* fediblock campaign and the FBI appears at my house and finally....3) this guy literally bogs down and causes performance issues for server admins, absolutely *nothing* on #fediblock. Anywhere I make an account, the admins are harassed for "harbouuuuuuuring" me. Something tells me techhub has gotten zero (0) complaints about this dude. Really makes ya think.
(DIR) Post #AcXVcJSye0NbTClj7o by p@freespeechextremist.com
2023-12-06T17:22:22.472773Z
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@PurpCat @graf @Drand @boody @milk @mischievoustomato @nataliecantdothatontheinternet.jpg
(DIR) Post #AcXVsebrnkOhg7id7Y by p@freespeechextremist.com
2023-12-06T17:25:19.664076Z
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@PurpCat @mischievoustomato @Drand @boody @graf @milk @natalie I am interested in the situation of a guy scraping fedi and I do not know how it turned into discussion of someone's polycule but I would like to opt out of that if possible so I don't have to mute the entire thread.
(DIR) Post #AcXXR1L7tkFNySq848 by Hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net
2023-12-06T17:42:43.604903Z
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I have always wanted that feature and am annoyed whenever people refuse to emulate it by untagging people on request.
(DIR) Post #AcXXYtR1Akv9m3Lj04 by Hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net
2023-12-06T17:44:08.867900Z
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That has always been everyone's attitude, including Pete's.
(DIR) Post #AcYKX3cjDOOGY6a5nE by p@freespeechextremist.com
2023-12-07T02:52:52.840467Z
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@Hyolobrika @PurpCat @mischievoustomato @natalie @graf @milk @Drand @boody Well, it's not like it's a big deal, worst-case scenario is I mute the thread and maybe come back to it.
(DIR) Post #AcZ1fZgMCadSK3aP2G by Hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net
2023-12-07T10:56:09.578892Z
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BTW, I had to force load this post due to a server error.
(DIR) Post #AcZ1qPdlsRrEMdXpIm by Hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net
2023-12-07T10:58:08.121266Z
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But then you can miss out on interesting discussion happening in other parts of the thread. IMO muting a thread from a post should mute all replies on just that post and it's descendants.
(DIR) Post #AcZYyOx5cLfZ26zv6m by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-12-07T17:09:09.734123Z
2 likes, 3 repeats
@4censord @natalie @Drand template:Subject: Abuse Report for 18.4.38.176To: arin-mit-security@mit.eduDear MIT technical staff,I run a [fediverse Software] at [your ip]. This is part of a socialnetwork called the fediverse.On [Provide first time in log] your IP address 18.4.38.176 has begun repeatedly hitting my servers.This network traffic appears to be from a bot that* scrapes user data (PII) without their consent.* does not respect users explicit opt-out (e.g., robots.txt and no index meta tags)* repeatedly hits the same URLs, multiple times per second Ignoring response codes like 401, 403 and 404* Causese excessive server load.Please rectify this situation asap.
(DIR) Post #AcZczH9KVphEwLOZPM by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-12-07T17:54:08.073456Z
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@ashten @natalie what a fucking vile cretin. send him and MIT through the ringer.
(DIR) Post #AcZmAmFY7bf4AWrbii by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-12-07T19:37:01.925688Z
2 likes, 0 repeats
@lanodan @natalie @ashten @Drand
(DIR) Post #AcZmGQyg7jixvqfaee by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-12-07T19:37:57.940520Z
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@lanodan @Drand @ashten @natalie they happen ALL at once
(DIR) Post #AcZmON0okdlzwxSFIO by burner@norwoodzero.net
2023-12-07T19:39:44.648489Z
2 likes, 1 repeats
@jeff @natalie @lanodan @Drand lol
(DIR) Post #AcZmVFUf6Uleesh5xQ by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-12-07T19:40:25.560480Z
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@burner @natalie @lanodan @Drand he's a fukin MIT skidmark
(DIR) Post #AcZmd5f5XfseTxJHgO by burner@norwoodzero.net
2023-12-07T19:42:24.655789Z
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this *should* block all the MIT ip rangesiptables -A INPUT -m iprange --src-range 18.0.0.0-18.31.255.255 -j DROPiptables -A INPUT -m iprange --src-range 128.30.0.0-128.31.255.255 -j DROPiptables -A INPUT -m iprange --src-range 128.52.0.0-28.52.255.255 -j DROPiptables -A INPUT -m iprange --src-range 129.55.0.0-129.55.255.255 -j DROPiptables -A INPUT -m iprange --src-range 192.52.61.0-192.52.66.255 -j DROPiptables -A INPUT -m iprange --src-range 198.125.160.0-198.125.163.255 -j DROPiptables -A INPUT -m iprange --src-range 198.125.176.0-198.125.191.255 -j DROP
(DIR) Post #AcZmg1WBP8tkV2Xk4O by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-12-07T19:42:43.034362Z
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@burner @natalie @lanodan @Drand just post the cidrs
(DIR) Post #AcZml1nxlXJipxFJp2 by burner@norwoodzero.net
2023-12-07T19:43:50.516552Z
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@jeff @natalie @lanodan @Drand I just grabbed the ranges from here https://kb.mit.edu/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=164070805
(DIR) Post #AcZn4PSE3u8XgcJvou by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-12-07T19:47:06.668901Z
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@burner @natalie @lanodan @Drand aight
(DIR) Post #AcZn6EFigGH9WYL2W0 by burner@norwoodzero.net
2023-12-07T19:47:40.749627Z
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@jeff @natalie @lanodan @Drand should I block all those now?
(DIR) Post #AcZnBbnwXgVw17uZai by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-12-07T19:48:23.886666Z
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@burner @natalie @lanodan @Drand i just send a 403 now.my nginx can handle it.
(DIR) Post #AcZnM0Szhi0LOw4RzE by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-12-07T19:49:47.943373Z
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@luwa @burner @natalie @lanodan @Drand MIT
(DIR) Post #AcZnOf9BQTCK9H4SW0 by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-12-07T19:50:47.985365Z
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@luwa @Drand @burner @lanodan @natalie context: https://misinformation.wikileaks2.org/notice/AcZYx3uWzq61TgzLM0
(DIR) Post #AcZnQyfjnrCrHeOybw by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-12-07T19:51:13.691277Z
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@Drand @burner @lanodan @luwa @natalie and https://misinformation.wikileaks2.org/notice/AcWKyeZEDFNCcg0cCW
(DIR) Post #AcZo1JqcYBbZNpoyrw by burner@norwoodzero.net
2023-12-07T19:57:59.178342Z
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@luwa @jeff @natalie @lanodan @Drand academia is jewish btw :rapist:
(DIR) Post #AcZo9e6l6h70XJL9f6 by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-12-07T19:59:16.847616Z
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@luwa @burner @natalie @lanodan @Drand
(DIR) Post #Aca4QeGUGkC1oPGFFI by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-12-07T22:59:26.120028Z
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@burner @jeff @natalie @Drand Litterally why I told someone to ping abuse@mit.edu as this is the kind of shit that's going to hurt their connectivity at one point.
(DIR) Post #AcbET4CfziyTXPELA0 by Raccoon@techhub.social
2023-12-08T12:07:46Z
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@jeff @natalie @lanodan @ashtenI would say "federated moderation" is a thing: we send reports between servers, post things on tags like fediblock, have conversations over the network about what we are doing about what... It's not like every server is 100% independent in terms of enforcing rules and all that, and of course we all have to come to agreements about what we're willing to put up with from each other before limiting or blocking.
(DIR) Post #AcbEnT8qz4YcfsAeKO by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-12-08T12:32:29.518210Z
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@Raccoon @natalie @lanodan @ashten federated actions are always a suggestion be it a post, delete, report boost or whatever. this guy asking "how does federated moderation work" knows this, he's building a shitlist so that he can be paid to censor you on behalf of whoever wins in 2024
(DIR) Post #AcbHKAEQVoUxUSUmIK by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-12-08T13:00:29.867551Z
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@Raccoon @jeff @natalie @ashten Moderation on the fediverse seems to be done those ways:- Ad-hoc: Admin saw one of those callout posts like FediBlock does, dedicated to act on it. (hashtags themselves not being really federated, they're just tags on posts, for example you can't follow them)- Reports: Maybe the only thing federated, except it's just messages and not actions- TheBadSpace, dzuk blocklist, …: Centralised, a self-crowned King says this server has to be blocked, they're also much worse than email DNSBLs as one simply doesn't gets removedFor me federated moderation would be more like Usenet control messages where an admin sends what they're blocking/removing/… in a standard format and other admins are free to do the same thing or not.
(DIR) Post #AcbHLtJQOB4dawemRM by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-12-08T13:01:09.941890Z
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@lanodan @burner @natalie @Drand idk MIT is a private company they can do what they want or somethin
(DIR) Post #AcbHgCMTH4aQSylUTw by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-12-08T13:04:30.247379Z
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@jeff @burner @natalie @Drand They can, but they should be made aware of what's happening in their network and consequences of it.Imagine mit's fediverse server being effectively unreachable to like 20+% of the fediverse because of this. Or possibly even beyond the fediverse.
(DIR) Post #AcbIdrEuvxQQKigBl2 by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-12-08T13:15:36.960413Z
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@lanodan @burner @natalie @Drand they'll just fire the intern and tell the undergrad to knock it off
(DIR) Post #AcbInTBfDOxIdDk0Qq by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-12-08T13:17:19.861122Z
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@lanodan @natalie @ashten @Raccoon right, it's mix of normative non normative control messages. if only people read up on usenet before repeating it
(DIR) Post #AcbIqRmCurW57qFmwC by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-12-08T13:17:36.744116Z
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@jeff @burner @natalie @Drand Drand is an MIT professor, not some random student.
(DIR) Post #AcbItEqnQmyruAjObo by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-12-08T13:18:24.731157Z
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@lanodan @burner @natalie @Drand i know, i am talking abot the response from MIT netops
(DIR) Post #AcbYISJY0cFWDKf68W by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2023-12-08T16:11:10.591210Z
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also his instance seems to block half of the fedi anyway
(DIR) Post #AcbYQcr2hjhNDkDzay by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2023-12-08T16:12:41.265465Z
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federated moderation could be a thing, he could be researching itbut nobody implements it afaik
(DIR) Post #AcbYfd7A1JBIN2uzpo by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2023-12-08T16:15:23.159216Z
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yeah but their students deserve access to the fedi and if someone is ruining that for them. . .
(DIR) Post #AcbYpn4RrFLY94Uj4a by burner@norwoodzero.net
2023-12-08T16:17:15.182812Z
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no they don't, academics are faggots
(DIR) Post #AcbZ8jimXFBDG8OVvs by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-12-08T16:19:35.336515Z
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@jeffcliff @natalie @ashten @Drand Right, could be the typical academic thing of having no running code, meaning it still doesn't exists.
(DIR) Post #AcbZIIHJQGYb2f6Rwe by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
2023-12-08T16:22:18.788479Z
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@jeffcliff @jeff @burner @natalie @lanodan @Drand if anything, dropping their traffic would protect the studentsLEST THEY BE CALLED INTO THE DEAN'S OFFICE FOR A DISCIPLINARY HEARING OVER INTERACTING WITH THE NAZI WOLFGIRL INSTANCE
(DIR) Post #Acba5NSsvYuZJkv9xQ by burner@norwoodzero.net
2023-12-08T16:31:16.646785Z
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aren't you a pedophile
(DIR) Post #Acbb5BTPbyEy54dgnI by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-12-08T16:42:10.584081Z
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@jeffcliff @burner @natalie @lanodan @Drand i agree, they absolutely do. i just wish that this bot was fixed. it reminded me of mastodon day 1 and it gave me a huge ptsd flashback.
(DIR) Post #AcbbAN8zeDEZizYvfk by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-12-08T16:43:07.816679Z
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@jeffcliff @Drand @burner @lanodan @natalie mastodon launched with a bug which ddos'd the network just by being there.
(DIR) Post #AcboDjkFND6y5ovETA by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-12-08T19:09:21.664828Z
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@ashten @natalie @lanodan @Raccoon automated moderation also ends up being a friction point which generates more problems than it solves. when there are perverse economic incentives involved it actually ends up doing a worse job than even the worst human moderators.it's IMO a solution in search of a problem as moderation requires the human element and removing that makes it into network filtration which is totally different set of end users who pay into that.
(DIR) Post #Acbqs4DasC7L570Wf2 by Raccoon@techhub.social
2023-12-08T19:24:57Z
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@ashten @jeff @natalie @lanodanYeah, FediBlock is best used as a tool to get a heads up about a server before it shows up on your list. That doesn't necessarily mean everyone blocks or even limits the server, it just gives us an opportunity to check it out beforehand. For instance, your server, misinformation.wikileaks2, is on FediBlock because you make it pretty clear that you are all about posting hate-memes to "piss off the libs" or something. We haven't bothered blocking you yet because you haven't been actively trolling users of other servers, but we are aware of you.Different servers have different moderation strategies, which is how it works by design. That doesn't mean we aren't working together though, because systems which force us to naturally arise.And yeah, a big strength of Fedi is that our biggest incentive is making the network a nice place to be, as opposed to a financial incentive of ad revenue.
(DIR) Post #Acbt0TnZqjXqdtyfwW by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-12-08T20:03:01.031708Z
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@Raccoon @ashten @natalie @lanodan the SNR of that people who use that hashtag with the under propagation of hashtags in general have shown that it's not a very productive medium for moderation.
(DIR) Post #AcbuXdhCAo7IqeMt7Y by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-12-08T20:20:14.129209Z
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@ashten @natalie @lanodan @Raccoon no, moderation is the main theme here, someone is building a ML dataset for selling "policing fedi" to military contractors on MIT and using a buggy spider which is why anyone noticed. there is a divergence in moderation philosophies here which boils down to, do it by hand with human moderators or pay someone in silicon valley to make a robot do it for you.in my extended experience human moderation is the only kind of fair moderation that works at scale, AI won't solve this it'll only make the problem of network wide angst worse.
(DIR) Post #AcbzE258IQvUSY2E0u by Raccoon@techhub.social
2023-12-08T21:00:27Z
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@jeff @natalie @lanodan @ashtenI don't know about that: 90% of the time when I check those servers out, they have racial /sex slurs being thrown around on the public timeline, admins with names like "rapist" and "loli fucker", and blockbots announcing who everyone should harass.Granted, Tech hub appeared on there one time a while back, so it's possible we are just not getting the frivolous ones, but still, It's a tool in the toolbox, and I found it useful here.
(DIR) Post #AcbzE2t7IauOxZQ8vI by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-12-08T21:12:28.988596Z
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@Raccoon @natalie @lanodan @ashten well to each their own, there are no solutions, only tradeoffs.
(DIR) Post #Acc66RgRvOB9Dzop3R by Raccoon@techhub.social
2023-12-08T22:28:42Z
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@jeff @natalie @lanodan @ashtenConversely, I like the idea of having automation that generates reports. We're already talking about setting up a bot on Tech Hub, maybe even sharing it with other servers, that reports posts that show up in the timeline with specific words on them.The key here isn't that robots are necessarily bad, it's that decisions that significantly affect people, like being banned from their Mastodon server, need to be made by a human who can look at the situation calmly and objectively.
(DIR) Post #AccJ78xSKYouqFR7su by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-12-09T00:55:33.833369Z
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@Raccoon @natalie @lanodan @ashten and then google makes more money from data mining.
(DIR) Post #AccKjmp2fFmxR9UW6C by Raccoon@techhub.social
2023-12-09T01:09:30Z
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@jeff @natalie @lanodan @ashtenWho said anything about bringing in google? Simple word-searchers, syntax analyzers, and context-checking LLMs are all lightweight enough one should be able to run their own at least one of them on a Mastodon server without much extra load, OR have a few admins go in for a private server they all share to check their public posts.
(DIR) Post #AccKjnZTsaw3lBDbU0 by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-12-09T01:13:45.604190Z
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@Raccoon @natalie @lanodan @ashten you dont need to do dragnet ML data trawling to do that, but here we are.
(DIR) Post #AccLTwwRNCG08sxpya by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-12-09T01:22:06.684949Z
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@lanodan @natalie @jeffcliff @ashten @Drand having no code just means it's pure and thus mathematically proven. more grant money that way so they can make more academic vaporware!
(DIR) Post #AccLmOW5aYvIsRQwjI by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-12-09T01:24:52.990347Z
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@jeff @natalie @jeffcliff @ashten @Drand Yup, cannot have bugs or UX issues that way :D
(DIR) Post #AccO0lG61ycdNAvoMi by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-12-09T01:50:26.985370Z
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@lanodan @natalie @jeffcliff @ashten @Drand the perfect program! give us more money to make these, we're not just idea guys we promise!
(DIR) Post #Aihfs8BUgP2YV7bdlQ by Drand@techhub.social
2023-12-07T21:55:57Z
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@ashten @natalie So you are not interested in a conversation re qualitative aspects of how you engage in content moderation?
(DIR) Post #Aihfs9Pi720SJVGVYu by Drand@techhub.social
2023-12-07T22:02:04Z
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@ashten @natalie (My goal wasn't to dodge your questions, but rather to offer to answer them directly rather than in this very-prone-to-misunderstanding abbreviated format)