Post AcZK0XPLeS8uWbmBGa by defanor@emacs.ch
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 (DIR) Post #AcZ4kTmdrOPHL3YY52 by galdor@emacs.ch
       2023-12-07T11:30:41Z
       
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       Ubuntu logic: nooo you cannot use root! But you can use ubuntu. Which can sudo to root and thus can do exactly the same thing as root. Makes total sense.
       
 (DIR) Post #AcZFbn1w1zmvv8li4m by defanor@emacs.ch
       2023-12-07T13:32:23Z
       
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       @galdor Does it lock the root user's password by default, or is it about something else?I tend to lock it myself, so that there are fewer active users and passwords to manage and worry about, especially on servers. But since Ubuntu is advertised as being user-friendly, perhaps it also makes sense for them to nudge users away from running everything as root, as particularly newbie users may be tempted to do.
       
 (DIR) Post #AcZIwpPUg3YlFIVlse by galdor@emacs.ch
       2023-12-07T14:09:48Z
       
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       @defanor I'm talking about Ubuntu 22.04 LTS on servers, which is still the simplest option if you want to minimize compatibility problems with various external packages (CUDA, etc.).And yes, users will learn to use ubuntu instead of root, both being able to do everything. But they won't have to learn to be careful since ubuntu is supposed to be nice and safe while root is supposed to be scary. The usual infantilization process.
       
 (DIR) Post #AcZK0XPLeS8uWbmBGa by defanor@emacs.ch
       2023-12-07T14:21:41Z
       
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       @galdor Oh, did they rename "root" user into "ubuntu"? I thought in your first toot you mentioned "using ubuntu" jokingly, as having sudo(1) available in the system, but now it sounds more like there is an "ubuntu" user. It is also tricky to search for, an "ubuntu" user on Ubuntu systems.
       
 (DIR) Post #AcZKUsZfWH3UrK4U08 by galdor@emacs.ch
       2023-12-07T14:27:09Z
       
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       @defanor Yes there is an "ubuntu" user created by default and thou shall not login as root. Instead you login as "ubuntu" then use sudo (or in practice "sudo su -" because I'm managing servers) Because reason. Security theatre.
       
 (DIR) Post #AcZVC01sg1FPyST2OG by odc@mstdn.io
       2023-12-07T16:26:59Z
       
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       @galdor As far as I know, all cloud images work like that. It's not specific to Ubuntu. The idea is: if you can login via SSH, then you can become root without a password. It makes sense when you manage a lot of servers.
       
 (DIR) Post #Aca0Zm0oR1oOd41bfc by louis@emacs.ch
       2023-12-07T21:52:40Z
       
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       @galdor @defanor Because reason, I just use root. ;-)