Post AcVjdPnNbmyYQmoOSe by adiz@soc0.outrnat.nl
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(DIR) Post #AcViZf9kSJO0xWvBnU by kevinrns@mstdn.social
2023-12-05T20:14:48Z
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The ASTOUNDING huge big news out of COP28 "so far" is Biden's comitment to not just build NO MORE, not one, coal plant ever again, but to cycle down and Replace ALL COAL PLANTS NOW within 12 years.US TO REPLACE COAL PLANTSCoal is 20% of the US power system. That is construction of massive size. Terawats of renewable construction. Funding for remefiation for energy industry jobs, protecting former coal communities.https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2023/12/biden-cop28-coal/#COP28 #climate #klima #climat #coal
(DIR) Post #AcViZgFSOZXyLWbGKm by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-12-05T20:37:46.838070Z
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@kevinrns That would be great, but I'm calling bullshit. They won't be replaced with renewables or nuclear, they'll be converted to natural gas if at all.
(DIR) Post #AcViZhDMnpT9LKd6iO by kevinrns@mstdn.social
2023-12-05T20:19:09Z
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Over to you rest of the world.
(DIR) Post #AcViix8EzYQhJee7Ps by adiz@soc0.outrnat.nl
2023-12-05T20:39:44.401Z
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@kevinrns@mstdn.social Pretty wild that we dropped nuclear decades ago. Might not have these problems if we get serious about it in the 60s and 70s more.
(DIR) Post #AcViwMKMcutPDti2BU by scathach@stereophonic.space
2023-12-05T20:42:09.053591Z
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@kevinrns even if America does go through with this (lol), it's far too little, far too late
(DIR) Post #AcVjdOwYmAizmy6D8C by kevinrns@mstdn.social
2023-12-05T20:48:49Z
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@adiz No one can afford it, no one wants to be put in danfer by nuclear power. Only Principal Putin wants you to put nuvlear power stations where he can get at them. Even WW2 levels of security cant protect us when the Putins want wide roads up to the power station.Sure nukes, expensive, deadly, insecure, and produces metric tons of baby killer waste you need to hide, in your town.Or cheap clean renewables? India dropped coal plants for batteries because money.
(DIR) Post #AcVjdPnNbmyYQmoOSe by adiz@soc0.outrnat.nl
2023-12-05T20:49:59.909Z
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@kevinrns@mstdn.social Now THIS is schitzoposting!
(DIR) Post #AcVjpymxKYVMR3bYS8 by kevinrns@mstdn.social
2023-12-05T20:42:18Z
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@feld Good for you! You are the smart. You figure all the things.And get paid by Exxon. So clever with your doombullshitting to depress activism. Its not going to work anymore Exxon, and we're coming after you.More than twenty cities and Sates suing Oil for climate change.https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/us-cities-states-sue-big-oil-climate-change-lawsuits/
(DIR) Post #AcVjpzbIJOlqxB9kum by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-12-05T20:51:46.658067Z
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@kevinrns good luck :thumbsup:
(DIR) Post #AcVmbubAPd3nFS4f3Y by FortunateFool@infosec.town
2023-12-05T20:54:53.336Z
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@kevinrns @adiz Putin doesn't want you to use nuclear as they are fossil fuels exporters. Also, nuclear is safe and storage can be managed.
(DIR) Post #AcVpdTEDRdRwnpm2IC by watzon@watzonmanor.com
2023-12-05T21:56:53.759Z
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@kevinrns@mstdn.social @adiz@soc0.outrnat.nl this is some seriously misinformed anti-nuclear dogma.
(DIR) Post #AcVpmoi0wwJk1vAVcm by kevinrns@mstdn.social
2023-12-05T21:58:01Z
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@watzon @adiz Just one point, and fewer generalized baloney. Make a point.
(DIR) Post #AcVpmpTs50bAQLYjDc by adiz@soc0.outrnat.nl
2023-12-05T21:58:56.490Z
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@kevinrns@mstdn.social "Putin bad Russia bad!" @watzon@watzonmanor.com
(DIR) Post #AcVquQ5yRiNdxmZ4Xg by kevinrns@mstdn.social
2023-12-05T22:11:01Z
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@adiz @watzon Very well said, the moron Putin is very bad, a putrid little hitler wanna be.He aint gonna get a Kremlin Memorial.
(DIR) Post #AcVquQvNMbUsXCc7f6 by adiz@soc0.outrnat.nl
2023-12-05T22:11:31.163Z
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@kevinrns@mstdn.social Yes okay. @watzon@watzonmanor.com
(DIR) Post #AcVqxJDyRs8dWQgUMa by watzon@watzonmanor.com
2023-12-05T22:11:31.453Z
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@kevinrns@mstdn.social @adiz@soc0.outrnat.nl Nuclear energy is among the safest forms of power generation we have. Given modern safety standards and our ability to re-use spent fuel rods, it's not just safe, but also results in very little waste. You would have a hard time making a modern nuclear power plant go critical if you tried, and the chances of a Chernobyl ever happening again are near zero. Even Fukashima happened long enough ago that security protocols have adapted (and most nuclear power plants wouldn't be within touching distance of a tsunami).The main problem with nuclear, and the reason why so much anti-nuclear discourse exists is 2 fold. It takes money away from oil and coal producers, and it's much more expensive.
(DIR) Post #AcVvGqY1B2sQBudCxU by kevinrns@mstdn.social
2023-12-05T21:05:54Z
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@FortunateFool @adiz Ha ha, Zelensky wants your advise about his nuclear plants that Putin has occupied. Ffs be serious a little.
(DIR) Post #AcVvGrPtwhyit1qEwi by FortunateFool@infosec.town
2023-12-05T21:36:27.167Z
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@kevinrns @adiz not many countries are at risk from Russia invading and they have not weaponized the plant. The znpp is in cold shutdown.
(DIR) Post #AcVvGsH4l0VrXwihpQ by kevinrns@mstdn.social
2023-12-05T22:49:43Z
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@FortunateFool @adiz https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/dec/09/us-power-grid-pacific-northwest-attackshttps://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/10/power-grid-attacks-00114563
(DIR) Post #AcVvGsvqJR7faNnGN6 by FortunateFool@infosec.town
2023-12-05T22:58:01.796Z
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@kevinrns @adiz not nuclear but I'll play along "“There is no indication that these vandalism attempts indicate a greater risk to our operations and we have extensive measures to monitor, protect and minimize the risk to our equipment and infrastructure,” the company said in a statement."
(DIR) Post #AcVvHOrLbgXabhw7o8 by kevinrns@mstdn.social
2023-12-05T22:56:34Z
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@FortunateFool @adiz "Sellafield Nuclear Site Hacked By Groups Linked To Russia and China"The UK's most hazardous nuclear site, Sellafield, has been hacked into by cyber groups closely linked to Russia and China.!!!!sources said breaches were first detected as far back as 2015, when experts realised sleeper malware -- software that can lurk and be used to spy or attack systems -- had been embeddedLet's Build Sun and Wind - not Nukes, OK?https://it.slashdot.org/story/23/12/04/1629217/sellafield-nuclear-site-hacked-by-groups-linked-to-russia-and-china
(DIR) Post #AcVvHRIiWtceBAl0kK by FortunateFool@infosec.town
2023-12-05T22:58:16.667Z
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@kevinrns @adiz and?
(DIR) Post #AcVz9zDkvpI8sd8day by FortunateFool@infosec.town
2023-12-05T23:03:03.118Z
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@kevinrns @adiz well, kevin blocked me but please let him know that it's not the end of "dirty old nuclear" since Biden and 19 countries pledged to triple nuclear by 2050 news.yahoo.com/20-plus-countries-pledge-triple-083000476.html
(DIR) Post #AcVzBOWCMUjnd1R5v6 by adiz@soc0.outrnat.nl
2023-12-05T23:44:13.937Z
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@FortunateFool@infosec.town You're not allowed to have a different opinion. @kevinrns@mstdn.social
(DIR) Post #AcWFdy41OdgtFIu3ua by McPatrick@mastodon.social
2023-12-06T00:08:20Z
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@feld @kevinrns Given that solar and wind are both cheaper and clean?
(DIR) Post #AcWFdyuqEFwRt7cFF2 by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-12-06T02:48:10.086522Z
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@McPatrick @kevinrns they can't be relied upon for the base load, that's the problem. They will need to be supplemented with huge battery farms.I really want this to work and we shouldn't give up or slow down but the reality is that we use 1 cubic mile of oil per year (worldwide) and this amount of energy is more than people can imagine. If we took 50 years to replace oil it would take the attached image 50x.
(DIR) Post #AcWI6YsoITHdSHQCS8 by McPatrick@mastodon.social
2023-12-06T02:58:07Z
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@feld @kevinrns And we don't HAVE 50 years to do that.
(DIR) Post #AcWI6ZoapdVKLUSLWC by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-12-06T03:15:43.098857Z
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@McPatrick @kevinrns exactly. This is the problem. The math says it's currently impossible, so we better pray that the little we can do is enough.Coal to gas conversion and supplemented by solar and wind is the only option in most areas.Biden pledging to shutdown coal is a lie as he knows it's not possible. Converting to gas is only half a lie, though. At least it's not coal!Progress is progress, but replacing 250 coal plants / 225GW equivalent base load in 12 years is a massive feat.
(DIR) Post #AcZLwNKHOQre0UY2uO by piki@hachyderm.io
2023-12-07T12:59:02Z
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@feld @McPatrick @kevinrns Coal has gone from 50% to 20% in the U.S. in the last 13 years. 0% in the next 12 is a pretty reasonable linear extrapolation as current coal plants reach the end of their useful life and are not replaced.
(DIR) Post #AcZLwOJFjjdZ3b4jwm by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-12-07T14:42:55.342793Z
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@piki @McPatrick @kevinrns you see that blue blob getting big? it's because they're converting coal to natural gas in places where there is no other way to decommission a coal plant and still provide the base load needed for the grid in that areaI worked at a power utility from 2013-2016 fwiw. We had a lot of mandatory training about how the grid works, how the utilities interconnect, the regulations, the requirements, the things blocking us from deploying more solar/wind to completely replace gas/coal plants, etc