Post AcVWfShwS8bCddujGS by KevinFlynn@c.im
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(DIR) Post #AcJTbESOraSDWUPtz6 by jerry@infosec.exchange
2023-11-29T19:47:58Z
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I just had a need to look at something on X and it’s interesting, though perhaps not surprising, to see the number of people who have abandon the fediverse and moved back there.
(DIR) Post #AcJTbGQLYC03chTI3s by jerry@infosec.exchange
2023-11-29T22:53:22Z
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In any case, we have this very nice place on Infosec.exchange with 16,508 active accounts. It may be shrinking, but it’s a good bunch of people left.
(DIR) Post #AcJUtGMcc2AKbTsLsO by mttaggart@infosec.town
2023-11-29T23:08:14.558Z
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@jerry There are a lot of folks (many of whom will read this) who will see this and think "Fine! We don't want them."But...we do. We would much rather they no longer support fascist media and also join in these conversations.I can't help but think that the old Steinbeck quote applies here.I guess the trouble was that we didn't have any self-admitted proletarians. Everyone was a temporarily embarrassed capitalist.Shift that how you like, but I suspect the people still over there are chasing something that this platform does not offer by design.
(DIR) Post #AcJVdcYiQLWIlFdajo by rysiek@mstdn.social
2023-11-29T22:58:41Z
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@jerry yeah, "interesting" is right I guess.But also, fedi is so much more diverse, more interesting, more lively, bigger, and healthier than, say, 2y ago.It also learned a lot about its shortcomings, and is (very) slowly addressing some of them.It's getting integrated into all sorts of random services, official instances are being deployed, this is all serious investment — and one not singularly controlled.I am more confident today than I was 2y ago that long-term fedi is the way to go.
(DIR) Post #AcJVew6XEvhXfb5FCK by ninkosan@netsplit.social
2023-11-29T23:06:08Z
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@rysiek @jerry I like it here. It’s not going to be for everyone, but I’m not sure that’s a bad thing tbh.
(DIR) Post #AcJVfqIsIEqVy5HtCq by jerry@infosec.exchange
2023-11-29T23:01:43Z
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@rysiek I think it’s fair to say that I am all in on the fediverse
(DIR) Post #AcJVfr0Tg7iy9JgiAa by rysiek@mstdn.social
2023-11-29T23:10:55Z
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@jerry does seem so indeed.And now I will shamelessly go ahead and take full credit for that, as I remember pestering you to also mention fedi on the Defensive Security podcast, aeons ago. :blobcatcoffee:
(DIR) Post #AcKraif1folexyZRmi by mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
2023-11-30T14:13:05Z
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@jerry I'm cursed to keep explaining this.Black users: There is more anti-Black racism on the Fediverse than on Twitter. I did not expect that.Jewish users: There is more anti-Semitism on the Fediverse than on Twitter. I did not expect that.Everyone else: Why are you going back to the Nazi bar?! 🤡This. The Fediverse. This. Is. The. nazi. Bar. You are standing in it right now.I don't want this to be true, which is why I'm spending precious time making it not true for more people.
(DIR) Post #AcKrajaoCyzLrBbaqm by mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
2023-11-30T14:16:23Z
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@jerry In the replies to your post, there are a bunch of people inventing what they think are the reasons that people are leaving the Fediverse. These invented reasons match their preconceived disdain for what they imagine Twitter users to like. It's clear that those people haven't even pretended to listen to any of the folk that came and left.Also, Content Warning nagging for non Content Warning worthy things, sucks, and makes for a miserable experience.
(DIR) Post #AcVWfRjg4CORcjibKa by jerry@infosec.exchange
2023-11-30T14:48:39Z
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@mekkaokereke thank you for that. It hasn't been clear to me that is the case, but then I am not Jewish nor black. I know that there are racist people and racist instances on the fediverse, but your characterization of the fediverse itself as rascist and antiemetic, particularly being moreso than Twitter, is alarming for sure.
(DIR) Post #AcVWfShwS8bCddujGS by KevinFlynn@c.im
2023-11-30T15:01:53Z
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@jerry @mekkaokereke Mastodon does not suggest and push racist propaganda in your face, you choose who you follow, and that's what you see. Are nazis using both twitter and mastodon? Of course. They're also using public restrooms, voting in elections, and hailing cabs on your curb. Fascists suck and eliminating their terrible traits is an endless battle we fight.But at least mastodon isn't run by a nazi suggesting you follow other nazis and creating company policies designed to erode communities that nazis don't like.Hi Mekka :) Nice to meet you
(DIR) Post #AcVWfTTnaCsd24IwrI by mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
2023-11-30T15:11:06Z
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@KevinFlynn @jerry Quote from Chanda Prescod-Weinstein:"Tweeps are *more likely* to think for two seconds before they explain to a Black person something that the Black person has been thinking about for 40 years and they've been thinking about for 5 minutes."She was talking about the phenomenon of white Mastodon users earnestly trying to explain to Black users why the Black users are wrong about their own lived experience, and why Twitter is definitely worse.https://x.com/IBJIYONGI/status/1590833026334064640
(DIR) Post #AcVWfUKyOVPlgzBPk0 by mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
2023-11-30T15:16:07Z
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@KevinFlynn @jerry If you land on a good, well moderated instance, your experience is better than Twitter.But if you land anywhere else, your experience is significantly worse than Twitter.This is "instance roulette," and it sucks.Most Fediverse instances don't block the most vile, racist instances on the Fediverse. So what happened to Chanda can happen to most Black women that try to join the Fediverse.The Fediverse needs much better Blocklist and Moderation tools and services.