Post AcSW2m02D3e9he35F2 by 10volt@wetdry.world
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(DIR) Post #AcSUaaKZtrPXS0eWtk by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-12-04T07:16:54Z
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How to kill all community goodwill in a dayStep 1: Make a beloved set of FOSS appsStep 2: Randomly after years of free support, switch to a 14 day free trial modelStep 3: Sell your apps to company that scoops up every app under the sunStep 4: Don't tell the community
(DIR) Post #AcSW2m02D3e9he35F2 by 10volt@wetdry.world
2023-12-04T07:33:16Z
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@BrodieOnLinux the F-droid versions were still free so the trial thing didn't bother me, but this purchase sucks, and the best resources about it are reddit threads and a single sentence from the dev, I hope the F-droid repo maintainers don't allow an update that adds ads
(DIR) Post #AcSWTqt09KeYg2ffsm by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-12-04T07:38:10Z
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@10volt Tibbi the dev thinks that ZipoApps are just going to take it proprietary so get ready for some GPL violations
(DIR) Post #AcSXRu0reY5HkXz1WK by fosstastic@mastodon.social
2023-12-04T07:48:59Z
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@BrodieOnLinux According to Tibor Kaputa 99 % of the code is written by him and other paid developers. If there's an internal CLA or all of them agree to the relicensing and the remaining 1 % is rewritten or removed, then there's no GPL violation.https://github.com/SimpleMobileTools/General-Discussion/issues/241#issuecomment-1837837729Does anyone know which developers were paid?
(DIR) Post #AcSXnPGYeLgOlEZsY4 by hunger@linuxrocks.online
2023-12-04T07:52:51Z
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@BrodieOnLinux I do not know why the maintainer saw the need to sell. Maybe the money was direly needed and those were the terms of the contract that was offered?Yes, this could have been handled better in an ideal world, but not knowing the situation the person is in: I do not feel comfortable to judge.maybe we would see less of this if we had a financially viable support model for maintainers? Not that I have any idea how that would look like.
(DIR) Post #AcSXpJ3Wi5NA4zO8cS by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-12-04T07:52:58Z
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@fosstastic If it's rewritten for sure but I don't have any reason to trust him at his word
(DIR) Post #AcSXuD6YGQQL4P8qXY by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-12-04T07:54:00Z
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@hunger He recently added in 14 day trials to a bunch of the apps which were very poorly received so I think possibly he was struggling financially and now he's taking the bag and bailing before it all collapses
(DIR) Post #AcSYE6kvZuLdAgW09o by fosstastic@mastodon.social
2023-12-04T07:57:43Z
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@BrodieOnLinux To me it sounds like he won't be involved in the project in the future at all.So any license infringements will (most likely) be caused by ZipoApps and not him.
(DIR) Post #AcSYgtV1wbFOSHo0hM by hunger@linuxrocks.online
2023-12-04T08:02:51Z
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@BrodieOnLinux Whatever you do as an free software person to raise money: People will yell at you. That's unfortunately a fact of live 😞 Maybe grabbing the bags and run is the best you can do in that situation?
(DIR) Post #AcSagfK2r2DUOTgazg by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-12-04T08:25:17Z
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@hunger I'm more than happy to have popups asking you to donate personally, but I know a lot of people aren't
(DIR) Post #AcSbxDD0jUG64vqk9g by hunger@linuxrocks.online
2023-12-04T08:39:26Z
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@BrodieOnLinux You need a *huge* and popular project for donations to pay the rent.Donations will not cover the costs (if you count in developer time) of 99.9% of all projects out there. Many projects do not account for the time spent as the people running it can afford the time.That breaks down as soon as something unforeseen happens in live and excludes a big chunk of the population from participating in FLOSS, too.
(DIR) Post #AcScuQOdLTne42WMQy by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-12-04T08:49:51Z
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@hunger That's true but burning your entire userbase also doesn't pay the rent lol
(DIR) Post #AcSdvY1aZKzpxzqDui by hunger@linuxrocks.online
2023-12-04T09:01:27Z
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@BrodieOnLinux Do you know contract details of the sale? It might pay the rent for a long time, or might just fill in a short term budget hole that urgently needs filling.I do not know that. I am sure a steady stream of income above minimum wage from the project would have moved the needle towards "don't sell" a bit though.
(DIR) Post #AcSfWiwD3ZK0TxcFiy by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-12-04T09:19:27Z
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@hunger What we know is he is no longer going to be involved, whether that means royalties or a lump sum is unclear
(DIR) Post #AcSgB5cEA1ZoOoW8a8 by tkk13909@fosstodon.org
2023-12-04T09:26:49Z
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@BrodieOnLinuxWait, what apps?
(DIR) Post #AcSiCOvg2QL2UuMs0O by Apan@mastodon.social
2023-12-04T09:49:23Z
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@BrodieOnLinux @hunger Its also an exellent opportunity for a forkproject to take up the project and revitalising its funding somewhat some what like Thunderbird did.
(DIR) Post #AcSiYxg7WS9idmqhUG by didek@101010.pl
2023-12-04T09:53:52Z
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@hunger @BrodieOnLinux I, and maybe many others, would happily pay some money for those apps. But app payments are broken.
(DIR) Post #AcT12uQnxQyeQt7CBk by QuadRadical@wetdry.world
2023-12-04T13:20:36Z
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@BrodieOnLinux what suite of apps is this?
(DIR) Post #AcT1KftwibTya6DVy4 by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-12-04T13:23:48Z
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@QuadRadical SimpleMobileTools
(DIR) Post #AcT1TbzmbrKR4dCzyq by QuadRadical@wetdry.world
2023-12-04T13:25:23Z
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@BrodieOnLinux wow, I use these. If they go proprietary I'll have to find an alternative I guess.