Post AcPXV1H8WbnRfVCWWG by verita84_uwu@poster.place
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(DIR) Post #AcP9N9GMXuJdDzYLDc by TechConnectify@mas.to
2023-12-02T16:20:56Z
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Real talk:It is utterly exhausting to look at my notifications every morning (which is a difficult slog as it is with this many followers) and see response after response saying "just mute/block those folks" again and again.I'm gonna make this as clear as I can:On Twitter,this. was. not. a. thing. I. had. to. do.I can probably count on one hand the number of times I had to block people because, get this, Twitter had a quality filter which caught most insufferable people
(DIR) Post #AcP9NAC954XK7CaUHg by TechConnectify@mas.to
2023-12-02T16:24:56Z
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The general (and relentlessly repeated) advice here, that I am the one who needs to take control over my experience here to have a good time, is honestly really really irritating.I'm gonna lay this out on the line right now: if I have to put this kind of work in to exist here peacefully, it's more likely that I'll just bow out and stop trying altogether.My needs and experience here are likely VERY different from yours. At this point, they're often too different to reconcile.
(DIR) Post #AcP9NB8zYHbl3i7U0W by Archivist@social.linux.pizza
2023-12-02T16:35:23Z
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@TechConnectify Hey, you are absolutely correct that these people do not know what it looks like on your side.I really do not want to make any contribs to mastodon or misskey (maybe it would be different for Akkoma but whatever), but would you help me with the requirements of an alternative client software to handle users such as you? I want to help, but I do not have enough data for that
(DIR) Post #AcP9NCNCyuZes5mLo0 by TechConnectify@mas.to
2023-12-02T16:29:18Z
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And one last point:If, as the culture appears here to be, it is up to the individual user to curate their experience:Just fuckin' unfollow me! Mute me! Curate YOUR feed! You can make your life better without making mine worse.
(DIR) Post #AcPIm7wFVRx9wb89YG by outadoc@mastodon.social
2023-12-02T16:24:09Z
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@TechConnectify I wish someone would make a Mastodon fork (or just a client?) with more algorithmic stuff (timeline sorting, recommended content, reply filtering...). As an option. I get that some people are ideologically opposed to it, but I don't care; I don't like algorithms when they're built to make money off of my data, I like them when they improve the UX, like they can in that case.
(DIR) Post #AcPIm8vDqkj4zheqae by nf3xn@mastodon.social
2023-12-02T16:50:13Z
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@outadoc Or maybe just a content script/extension. The default web client for mastodon is pretty poor UX imo. Not sure what the problem is here? He has a lot of hateful replies or many replies to other replies telling him to block this or just lots of spammy replies?Must be hella bad as this sounds a bit unhinged.Anyway I raised an feature request (something you can't do on Twitter) for disable replies, follower only replies but who knows if it will ever get implemented.
(DIR) Post #AcPIm9ff45sBJjNvyS by TechConnectify@mas.to
2023-12-02T16:56:13Z
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@nf3xn @outadoc Did you have to use the word "unhinged"?Anyway, here's a simple thing that would make my life a lot easier:If notifications were stacked, I could see "oh, this post has 150 replies" without SEEING EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.I think what gets lost on a lot of folks is that with this many followers, any time I say anything remotely controversial (which is often a surprise!) there is a lot of stuff I don't need or even WANT to see.
(DIR) Post #AcPImBJkwVXUQN9T6m by TechConnectify@mas.to
2023-12-02T16:57:44Z
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@nf3xn @outadoc Right now, everything is signal which means that everything is noise.I'm sure my perspective isn't the average one - smaller accounts probably like how raw and bare metal the experience is here.I'm trying my hardest to say (as tactfully as I can) that this does not work at scale - and if this platform is to truly be an alternative to corporate services, that needs to be figured out and fast.
(DIR) Post #AcPImCaSDuUSMRyJm4 by AlgorithmWolf@blob.cat
2023-12-02T17:00:12.087723Z
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@TechConnectify @nf3xn @outadoc The usual response to "Mastodon has scale problems" is "we don't want to scale, actually, because scaling is bad, we aren't Twitter"
(DIR) Post #AcPImDXefnqTK3fb3A by TechConnectify@mas.to
2023-12-02T17:01:44Z
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@AlgorithmWolf @nf3xn @outadoc I know, which is equally exhausting because I still cannot understand what people want this place to even be."why aren't more people on Mastodon"what an interesting question you goobers
(DIR) Post #AcPJbz7lWSShfKFFM8 by kevinmirsky@infosec.exchange
2023-12-02T16:36:51Z
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@outadoc @TechConnectify Additionally, the "anti-algorithm" people don't seem to realize 'chronological sorting' is an algorithm too, with its own impacts. It rewards the fastest, most online users by putting them at the top.
(DIR) Post #AcPJbzuKbtJI5wy23U by TechConnectify@mas.to
2023-12-02T16:42:00Z
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@kevinmirsky @outadoc and also means nobody's gonna see that their point was made a dozen times before.Sorting replies by popularity had some good effects, too!
(DIR) Post #AcPJp52sop25nKCoTo by TechConnectify@mas.to
2023-12-02T16:50:38Z
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(one last one last point)Another thing I want y'all to know - the reason I've been boosting my replies to annoying folks lately?It's to try and give a signal to those folks *and others* that I find that behavior unacceptable.That is something this platform desperately needs - like it or not, some of the features of other platforms allow the crowd to signal what's good and bad. That is its own form of moderation. Like giving digital side-eye.Its absence here isn't all good.
(DIR) Post #AcPLoCTNuycuRuJG0u by a1ba@suya.place
2023-12-02T18:54:44.424376Z
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@TechConnectify if I understand you correctly here, I don't think that's possible considering the "wild west"-like nature of fediverse. If you want to get rid of annoying people, there is just no automatic solution for that. In the end, I don't think the microblogging part of Fediverse is a complete Twitter replacement, even if it often gets advertised as one.t. never used Twitter, I know nothing about it.
(DIR) Post #AcPQu0Eqol5u0s67kG by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-12-02T19:51:46.305842Z
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@TechConnectify real talk go back to twittersigned, one of your loving patreon patrons
(DIR) Post #AcPR6FNcLe5iRr2LHk by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2023-12-02T19:54:02.798170Z
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>Twitter had a quality filter which caught most insufferable peopleAnd yet, that twitter "quality" filter wound up being weaponized against the "quality" people, wasn't it?
(DIR) Post #AcPREPfVyl40ftImQq by joel@fosstodon.org
2023-12-02T16:41:45Z
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@TechConnectify what if you mute the word mute? :blobcatderpy:
(DIR) Post #AcPREaUDl5Z8E36Pr6 by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-12-02T19:55:10.362497Z
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@Moon @TechConnectify centralized filter is just asking for mass censorship and authoritarianism :shrug:
(DIR) Post #AcPRNQ4HrYQuWJBRVw by dentaku@fnordon.de
2023-12-02T18:41:02Z
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@TechConnectify That's an interesting point but unfortunately not easy to replicate in a federated system mostly run by volunteers.The twitter "quality filter", at least AFAICT from the little documentation there is about it, hid all the replies from you except from people you followed or with blue checkmarks. Those checkmarks (at that time) were given out only to select people and in a manual process involving an identity check by a twitter employee.
(DIR) Post #AcPRNSEHpLcVDtsSNU by dentaku@fnordon.de
2023-12-02T18:41:03Z
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@TechConnectify Which is something that twitter could do, because they were a for-profit-company backed by venture capital.It also means: on twitter you would have never seen these replies.So in order to get a comparable functionality on mastodon we would have to implement something that is more automated. I have seen several proposals that *could* work (Bayesian filters for example), but as I said in the beginning: it's not an easy thing to do.
(DIR) Post #AcPRicwdBQeuXMiOeG by lain@lain.com
2023-12-02T20:00:16.019629Z
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@feld @TechConnectify @Moon we can have personal filters, personal „algorithmic“ timelines. The technology (heh) is there, but we need to use it and build the free systems that can actually compete with the closed ones.
(DIR) Post #AcPRyawWOSoOxiHHvM by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-12-02T20:03:42.809859Z
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@lain @TechConnectify @Moon but if it doesn't compile on NetBSD/longsoon we can't merge it 🫨
(DIR) Post #AcPSf0g96APewWqLXE by TechConnectify@mas.to
2023-12-02T20:08:28Z
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@lain @feld@bikeshed.party I jumped through the hoops necessary to see this original post (I think?) and in case this makes it through, I don't want to go back to Twitter. I've all but abandoned that account.I do think it's a mistake to assume all parts of it were bad, though. I genuinely want to maintain a public presence so folks can interact with me. And I like the spirit behind the fediverse, so much so that I'd like to cheer it on.But it's very difficult right now.
(DIR) Post #AcPT5GrnXD3wg6odii by deutrino@mstdn.io
2023-12-02T20:15:06Z
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@lain @feld @TechConnectify @Moon I've been wanting pluggable user-modifiable algos for filtering, surfacing, and reordering timelines for at least 5 years
(DIR) Post #AcPT5Hq3v9Ghh10lea by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-12-02T20:16:15.780215Z
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@deutrino @lain @feld @TechConnectify mastodon will get one implementation deemed best for everyone.
(DIR) Post #AcPUSkfezOWLjFtmcq by lain@lain.com
2023-12-02T20:31:02.414303Z
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@TechConnectify @feld the fediverse as it is works really well for many people, but not generally for people who come from twitter and expect something similar. We still need to build all the tools that will make it good for everyone.
(DIR) Post #AcPUYXyB7pe44eK8pc by kirby@lab.nyanide.com
2023-12-02T20:32:42.223580Z
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@TechConnectify leave
(DIR) Post #AcPUi0bS2JFbU9CmP2 by verita84_uwu@poster.place
2023-12-02T20:34:37.848Z
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@TechConnectify@mas.to
(DIR) Post #AcPUkZlCIGWP6PzJAW by matty@nicecrew.digital
2023-12-02T20:34:55.700993Z
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Why did you NSFW tag this
(DIR) Post #AcPUqpyOvXct7j9KcK by YTFoidLover1488@poa.st
2023-12-02T20:36:05.986276Z
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@TechConnectify I enjoy your content sometimes but get the fuck off fedi you're out of your element here.
(DIR) Post #AcPV6ycMYRm4ZFXMjw by lispi314@udongein.xyz
2023-12-02T20:38:18.868783Z
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@lain @Moon @TechConnectify @feld I've mentioned several times that even just a Gnus backend for Mastodon API would get one a major part of the way there (scoring is a pretty nice feature).
(DIR) Post #AcPVHAOjbwOe001PF2 by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-12-02T20:40:48.829057Z
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@lispi314 @feld @lain thats like spamassassin scoring right?
(DIR) Post #AcPVKS7QBLlDpNUSZs by CoffeeCamo@nicecrew.digital
2023-12-02T20:39:06.983215Z
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dont care nigger
(DIR) Post #AcPVP3kcCzSDhT1Hjk by teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work
2023-12-02T20:41:51Z
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Sounds like a good reason that everyone shouldn't pile into the same instance. Twitter is that to the extreme (single instance, and only they decide what the rules should be).
(DIR) Post #AcPVxujxhXxZtEKmEy by somethinggeneric@detroitriotcity.com
2023-12-02T20:47:58.351781Z
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@TechConnectify lol
(DIR) Post #AcPVzzlry58S4VDcci by McMongoose@bae.st
2023-12-02T20:48:57.412380Z
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@TechConnectify get the fuck outta here you fucking filthy fucking niggerHusky_1701550131584_LJ1212AHA8.jpg
(DIR) Post #AcPWH4piOuS0h6A98y by echo@stereophonic.space
2023-12-02T20:51:45.905507Z
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@lain @feld @TechConnectify I could maybe understand for people coming from farcebook, but what does twatter have that fedi doesn’t?
(DIR) Post #AcPWSmnhGsDGF4nmnA by 7666@comp.lain.la
2023-12-02T20:54:07.993363Z
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@Moon @feld @lain @TechConnectify @deutrino i'm still disappointed he chose a shitty instance (stux is a retard) so i can't see his posts but he's right in that he shouldn't have to play fedi politics and spend hours trying to get a good experiencethe problem is that "good experience" is subjective and that people get exponentially louder about their needs the more esoteric those needs are so you have to deal with pleasing 95% of people or catering to the 5% making 95% of the noise requiring 95% of the efforttooling is one way to fix it - if mastodon just had an akkoma style "block this domain locally" button i bet he'd have a better experience immediately - put fediblock into the hands of the users as easily as possible without breaking the fundamental nature of federation at a server level - if they want to stick their heads in the sand i'm not gonna stop them but that choice should still be ultimately made by the user as a balance between "full freedom" and "full moderation" based on what the user is trying to accomplish
(DIR) Post #AcPWdUiKrASfKjOsca by kirby@lab.nyanide.com
2023-12-02T20:56:02.493922Z
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@7666 @feld @lain @TechConnectify @deutrino @Moon >if mastodon just had an akkoma style "block this domain locally" button i bet he'd have a better experience immediatelyWHAT CAN I SAY EXCEPTIT FUCKING DOES
(DIR) Post #AcPWg7EAdSBTMNXajY by 7666@comp.lain.la
2023-12-02T20:56:33.037494Z
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@Moon @TechConnectify @deutrino @feld @lain correction: i got mstdn.social and mas.to mixed up - i fucking hate how everything's mastodon over thereno clue why mas.to blocked me
(DIR) Post #AcPWlAKiW4OqRK0jtQ by 7666@comp.lain.la
2023-12-02T20:57:28.169804Z
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@kirby @feld @lain @TechConnectify @deutrino @Moon interesting! wonder if mas.to has that too or if they're behind or on custom code or something - surely that can't be THAT hard to manage
(DIR) Post #AcPWqDpMx3tij1l8cq by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-12-02T20:57:27.879884Z
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@deutrino @lain @feld @TechConnectify @Moon MRF
(DIR) Post #AcPWsW5w0PWRxWbNA0 by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-12-02T20:57:56.844896Z
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@Moon @feld @lain @lispi314 you can literally just hook in SA
(DIR) Post #AcPX7LzhqDBiyclOBE by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-12-02T21:01:14.044814Z
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@7666 @feld @lain @TechConnectify @deutrino @Moon over zealous servers like those are dead and people need to stop pointing new users there, it's full of the most angst filled, insufferable and vicious social media terrorists.they give the network the bad rep everyone that has yet to join is familiar with.
(DIR) Post #AcPXDfjdMHFdwIG5YG by Cara@miruku.cafe
2023-12-02T21:02:05.820Z
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@TechConnectify@mas.to sounds like this whole decentralization/freedom thing isn't really for you, but if you want some help you could just give your account login details to someone who did it successfully and have them set up your filters and stuff, I'm sure there will be a lot of volunteers willing to take the power to curate your experience for you
(DIR) Post #AcPXI1hrbwGTEzVUHI by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-12-02T21:02:39.726186Z
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@Cara @TechConnectify freedom is not free
(DIR) Post #AcPXKyefPfRWe4Q1Ca by 7666@comp.lain.la
2023-12-02T21:03:55.655478Z
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@jeff @feld @lain @TechConnectify @deutrino @Moon >b-but we have to save the users from evil!just don't ask them to define evil you'll get a 2,000 word essay and 90% of will be bullshit.
(DIR) Post #AcPXUv7hOmgMaUjtya by verita84_uwu@poster.place
2023-12-02T21:05:53.003Z
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@7666@comp.lain.la @Moon@shitposter.club @TechConnectify@mas.to @deutrino@mstdn.io @feld@bikeshed.party @lain@lain.com Too many N-word slips like....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxeQ9W77z-g
(DIR) Post #AcPXV1H8WbnRfVCWWG by verita84_uwu@poster.place
2023-12-02T21:05:52.007Z
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@7666@comp.lain.la @Moon@shitposter.club @TechConnectify@mas.to @deutrino@mstdn.io @feld@bikeshed.party @lain@lain.com Too many N-word slips like....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxeQ9W77z-g
(DIR) Post #AcPXaWsUSHIB86IfaK by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-12-02T21:06:15.752418Z
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@7666 @feld @kirby @lain @TechConnectify @deutrino it sounds like he just wants a checkbox you check once and it magically does the work
(DIR) Post #AcPXblvfyoao6HNnk0 by kirby@lab.nyanide.com
2023-12-02T21:06:52.999354Z
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@Moon @feld @7666 @lain @TechConnectify @deutrino and yet some people still don't see the problem yet
(DIR) Post #AcPXdn8QT642Q1JFT6 by kirby@lab.nyanide.com
2023-12-02T21:07:18.521621Z
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@Moon @7666 @TechConnectify @deutrino @feld @lain [magic is not possible]
(DIR) Post #AcPXhpb7FnYjDOegtc by 7666@comp.lain.la
2023-12-02T21:07:53.588686Z
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@Moon @feld @kirby @lain @TechConnectify @deutrino engineer the equivalent of safesearch i guess. little multi-step slider from "babby" to "fascist" or something. idk.
(DIR) Post #AcPY79mlKhk34ABA1I by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-12-02T21:12:26.863904Z
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@7666 @feld @lain @TechConnectify @deutrino @Moon neolibs will NEVER be able to protect ANYONE from the events they omit to hide the evils they profit from.
(DIR) Post #AcPaE9Bi9Y3R9FJFsu by menherahair@eientei.org
2023-12-02T21:36:14.575638Z
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@TechConnectify @nf3xn @outadoc total influencer death
(DIR) Post #AcPcXLI3a4Ha5qYgLo by lnxw37b2@shitposter.club
2023-12-02T22:02:12.903529Z
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@Arcana @TechConnectify I think Mastodon is working on eventually adding quote posts, but there was such strong idealogical opposition that no one can predict whether their eventual implementation will even be useful.
(DIR) Post #AcPoetZXianVtV6aki by Noraweed@shitposter.club
2023-12-03T00:18:02.411582Z
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@TechConnectify Taking control of your own experience is half the reason fediverse platforms exist. If that's a dealbreaker, you are simply not compatible. Either deal with it, create a "fix" yourself, or leave. It's that simple.
(DIR) Post #AclWhsHgKkNrfcNhrs by besserwisser@shitposter.club
2023-12-13T11:40:31.946742Z
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@TechConnectify A friend of mine had the opposite problem. My posts were almost always recommended to him. I must be especially sufferable.