Post AcK3B5Fi3nU5nPJOAS by Barrikoi1@union.place
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(DIR) Post #AcK3B0sALOH6DEGWum by chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca
2023-11-30T01:59:58Z
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Very worthwhile examination by @anderspuck of what the word "Genocide" actually means and how it may or may not apply in the #IsraelGazaWar or #russiaUkraineWar or in other cases. Especially in the age of hashtags it is always a good idea to check our language so that we can create rhetoric that is both compelling and factual. After watching this I'll be more circumspect about the language I use to describe Israel's crimes against Palestinians including #apartheid, potential ethnic cleansing, crimes against humanity, and other war crimes, but perhaps not, specifically, genocide unless more information and proof of intent becomes clear.https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=gi5kSB0VYGaTXnO_&v=L9n77DPJ7AE&feature=youtu.be
(DIR) Post #AcK3B5Fi3nU5nPJOAS by Barrikoi1@union.place
2023-11-30T02:29:10Z
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@chris @anderspuck It is good to be intellectually rigorous in one's language in the fediverse: Anders Puck is first rate on Ukraine, for sure. At the same time, one can be too cautious: there is a solid consensus that the occupied territories are governed by an Apartheid system. Just check with B'tsalem, Israel's leading human rights organization, Amnesty International, or Human Rights Watch. They concur that Israel uses Apartheid in it's governance of occupied Palestinians. #Palestine
(DIR) Post #AcK3BBBfzhp6CdTFiK by NoBeerToday@mastodon.social
2023-11-30T03:12:41Z
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@Barrikoi1 @chris @anderspuck "It is good to be intellectually rigorous in one's language" - Yes, but at the same time "if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's most likely a duck". IMHO Anders Puck makes the mistake of putting too much weight on the intellectual & literal meaning of, for example, the word #genocide and not enough on the actual observations of what's happening.
(DIR) Post #AcK3BQDe6fJMp5VXMm by anderspuck@krigskunst.social
2023-11-30T05:32:01Z
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@NoBeerToday @Barrikoi1 @chris I really don’t say in this video that Israel is not committing a genocide.
(DIR) Post #AcK4U6UxkfGR7I4zoG by NoBeerToday@mastodon.social
2023-11-30T05:46:45Z
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@anderspuck @Barrikoi1 @chris OK, but don’t let the “it’s complicated” approach stop you from seeing what’s right in front of your eyes.
(DIR) Post #AcM5gg9pUCVtSNftHU by laurelrusswurm@mastodon.social
2023-12-01T05:09:39Z
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@anderspuckComplicated?"Article II of the Genocide convention...“any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:1 Killing members of the group;2 Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;3 Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction, in whole or in part...https://guide-humanitarian-law.org/content/article/3/genocide-1/@NoBeerToday @Barrikoi1 @chris
(DIR) Post #AcMBLRqI77AKhdnNCq by anderspuck@krigskunst.social
2023-12-01T06:13:07Z
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@laurelrusswurm @NoBeerToday @Barrikoi1 @chris Yes. You cannot just point to the current acts of violence and say that this is the intent. You have to make a broader argument.
(DIR) Post #AcQ9zjRWfirBb68Gvo by laurelrusswurm@mastodon.social
2023-12-03T04:16:45Z
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@anderspuckWhy not?Palestinians were a captive population before October 7. Since, they've been denied access to food, clean water, fuel. Israel has indiscriminately bombed civilians in Gaza(50+% children), demolishing shelter, killing thousands, wounding more & putting every hospital out of commission. With neither government or army, the IDF is waging war on Gaza's civilians.It is nothing new: this genocide has been ongoing for years.#FreePalastine@NoBeerToday @Barrikoi1 @chris
(DIR) Post #AcQAZb1XS3WzuX4vC4 by anderspuck@krigskunst.social
2023-12-03T04:23:19Z
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@laurelrusswurm @NoBeerToday @Barrikoi1 @chris That is the kind of of broader argument that I am talking about in the video.