Post AcHG0dIFs7zs7IyAMa by matrix@mastodon.matrix.org
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 (DIR) Post #AcHFSzzMz71Iex68xM by matrix@mastodon.matrix.org
       2023-11-28T21:04:38Z
       
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       We're sorry to announce that we are not able to bring the #Matrix bridge to #LiberaChat back online, and we have begun working through clean up tasks.If you need a bridge for your community, you still have options. More details in the full announcement: https://matrix.org/blog/2023/11/28/shutting-down-bridge-to-libera-chat/
       
 (DIR) Post #AcHFjWFknKZJMIdgf2 by vampire_lord_red_fang@mastodon.social
       2023-11-28T21:07:01Z
       
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       @matrix is there a way to host are own bridge or is it just you
       
 (DIR) Post #AcHG0dIFs7zs7IyAMa by matrix@mastodon.matrix.org
       2023-11-28T21:07:39Z
       
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       @vampire_lord_red_fang Yes, there are ways to host your own bridge! We have links to resources along those lines in the blog post.
       
 (DIR) Post #AcHGFccEfqyWMISjz6 by projectmoon@social.agnos.is
       2023-11-28T21:07:44.267Z
       
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       @matrix@mastodon.matrix.org Why was the bridge taken down in the first place, again?
       
 (DIR) Post #AcHGFdcGxCbBShUHgG by matrix@mastodon.matrix.org
       2023-11-28T21:09:11Z
       
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       @projectmoon We offer background on that in the blog post, and you can see the other posts covering that here: https://matrix.org/category/bridges/
       
 (DIR) Post #AcHHdrHBuyEejQjw24 by usul@piaille.fr
       2023-11-28T21:28:43Z
       
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       @matrix you are looking like slack
       
 (DIR) Post #AcHI1aI6ii0j0FTwBc by matrix@mastodon.matrix.org
       2023-11-28T21:33:12Z
       
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       @usul As an open source protocol, with open governance, stewarded by a nonprofit, it's hard to make sense of that comment.But we welcome your elaboration, critique, and accountability. It is only through conversation that we can fully realize our collective goals, after all.
       
 (DIR) Post #AcHMwHqgMPMw7zwnJ2 by adamw@fosstodon.org
       2023-11-28T22:28:14Z
       
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       @matrix @projectmoon libera.chat's takes on this, if you want to judge for yourself:https://libera.chat/news/matrix-bridge-disabled-retrospectivehttps://libera.chat/news/official-matrix-bridge-farewell
       
 (DIR) Post #AcIfiCc37iz07c3nxA by social_network_user_mastodon@mastodon.social
       2023-11-29T13:33:29Z
       
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       @matrix Why doesn't "synchronization" disappear in the new Element X client?
       
 (DIR) Post #AcIuN1ZqSOcZ7vOAwS by danie10@mastodon.social
       2023-11-29T16:17:38Z
       
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       @matrix well this is confusing as we were told to wait, for months. So it seems now we must find some other way. I still don't understand this whole issue as the bridge was working perfectly well for me for my IRC channel.
       
 (DIR) Post #AcIumavGBGWvzKb9sG by ck@chaos.social
       2023-11-29T16:22:23Z
       
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       @matrix Just the next step on the road to #matrix enshitification.Well done @element
       
 (DIR) Post #AcJ4x2WzO2WO3Hrhom by matrix@mastodon.matrix.org
       2023-11-29T18:16:25Z
       
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       @danie10 We were hoping and pushing for a different outcome, but ultimately the resources weren't there to operate and maintain it to the degree that was necessary. It's a relief to hear you had a good experience, alas that was far from universal.For now, we recommend folks explore self-hosting bridges and many folks are reporting success with that route. Details linked in the blog post.Our hope is to build the Foundation up so that it can itself operate bridges like this in the future.
       
 (DIR) Post #AcJ5fIpe8pslLlhLrU by matrix@mastodon.matrix.org
       2023-11-29T18:24:18Z
       
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       @ck As useful as Cory Doctorow's concept of enshittification is, it has no utility in describing what is happening here.Matrix remains an open protocol, under open source license, with open governance, stewarded by a nonprofit.The facts here are just that a service provider in the space can no longer afford to donate time to a operate a free community service (eg, the bridge). That's a far cry from the moves we see in big tech to lock people in and extract money from them. @element
       
 (DIR) Post #AcKdXSnSnexzXR4RMG by f4grx@chaos.social
       2023-11-30T12:18:31Z
       
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       @matrix @usul open source protocol is not enough.
       
 (DIR) Post #AcKdrRaX0FoXa7Y6iW by f4grx@chaos.social
       2023-11-30T12:22:06Z
       
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       @matrix @ck @element then it's the enshittification of element. The protocol is not enough, if the clients are not also free software (not just open source), then there is an implicit lock-in.
       
 (DIR) Post #AcL1vAxl9hYG4qj5pw by matrix@mastodon.matrix.org
       2023-11-30T16:51:22Z
       
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       @f4grx @ck @element Oh, like these?AGPL licensed clients:* https://github.com/cinnyapp/cinny* https://github.com/krille-chan/fluffychat* https://github.com/commetchat/commetGPL licensed clients:* https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/fractal* https://github.com/Nheko-Reborn/nheko* https://invent.kde.org/network/neochat