Post AcFmhGA2YvOh2eZqLo by pro@mu.zaitcev.nu
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(DIR) Post #Ac9lVY1R3z8c3le092 by olivier@social.vates.tech
2023-11-22T16:33:45Z
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Broadcom finally acquired VMware for $61B. Knowing Broadcom (and simply "business 101"), it's pretty sure VMware will be even more "fine tuned" to generate more cash than ever.Here is a quick recap on the virtualization landscape in the light of this big event -but not only:https://vates.tech/blog/the-new-virtualization-landscape/
(DIR) Post #Ac9lVZGMRyffuLdR32 by pro@mu.zaitcev.nu
2023-11-25T06:27:18.954651Z
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(DIR) Post #Ac9n4vz448uoSuyMjY by pro@mu.zaitcev.nu
2023-11-25T06:44:55.403688Z
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@olivier > The acquisition of RedHat by IBM for $34 billion in 2018 brought notable changes, particularly the shift in focus from Red Hat Virtualization (RHV) to OpenShift.> This also triggered many (bad) changes on community related projects (like GlusterFS, oVirt and such).Maybe I misread, but this sounds counter-factual to me. If anything, OpenShift was the sole reason Gluster survived as long as it did, because it was their storage layer. They require a distributed filesystem. Gluster was not very good, and when CephFS matured enough for OpenShift's needs, they were only too happy to abandon Gluster. Without all this k8s stuff, RH would probably jettison Gluster even faster - about the time @Obdurodon quit and went to FB. If only NSR ever happened.Also... I'm a little surprised that your blurb didn't mention OpenStack at all. Yes, the VMware accounts that needed enterprise virtualization may be served by RHV, but VMware also has a ton of cloudy offerings these days.
(DIR) Post #AcFmPdAyFphTD1beYS by olivier@social.vates.tech
2023-11-27T08:55:50Z
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@pro @Obdurodon Hey! Thanks for your question :) I meant that RH shift is leaving a gap in the virt market: we've seen new customers that were searching for a solution because RHEV will be discontinued.About the impact about on community: indeed RH was behind Gluster/oVirt, but now leaving it, factually removing a solution on the current landscape (or at least sending a bad signal for someone who will seek for it now).OpenStack: it's "just" an orchestrator, alone it doesn't mean anything.
(DIR) Post #AcFmPeH2Am90c7S0e0 by pro@mu.zaitcev.nu
2023-11-28T04:05:42.351883Z
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@olivier @ObdurodonOpenstack is actually a private cloud at its core. When your client app wants to spin up some VMs or route some VLANs, it has to talk to an API. Openstack provides that API and implements its requests. It's basically an Amazon in your pocket. If your taxonomy classifies AWS as an "orchestrator", then sure, Openstack is an orchestrator. But in a sane world it is not.In fact, OpenStack even includes data plane services, such as OpenStack Swift and Cinder backup. That is no orchestration no matter how you twist and stretch definitions.But it is also the case that OpenStack includes a ton of orchestration projects. Heat is the chief offender., there are many. They are first to get dumped for things like Ansible or k8s native stuff. Perhaps that is what feeds the "orchestration" impression.As far as RHEV getting discontinued, I have no clue. It all depends on how much revenue it brings. Could be enough to sustain a couple of Czechs in Brno forever, even with oVirt dead upstream. However, there's also CNV (Container Native Virtualization) initiative, which AFAIK seeks to supplant oVirt/RHEV. Maybe that will get RHEV discontinued.
(DIR) Post #AcFmPfAgpqfDOjUSOW by olivier@social.vates.tech
2023-11-27T08:56:56Z
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@pro @Obdurodon What I mean by that (about OpenStack): it's not "integrated", it can work on top of something, but it's not an option alone.I'm just comparing integrated solutions (oVirt, VMware, HyperV, etc.)
(DIR) Post #AcFmhGA2YvOh2eZqLo by pro@mu.zaitcev.nu
2023-11-28T04:08:54.494035Z
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@olivier @Obdurodon OpenStack Nova and oVirt are peers on top of Xen or KVM (technically through libvirt). Neither depends on each other, and they overlap in function and features, like any cloud and enterprise virtualization suites.