Post AcCaMIrNYCCAPJD2aO by grillchen@brotka.st
(DIR) More posts by grillchen@brotka.st
(DIR) Post #AcCKeVPW1n8fHIpmVM by kaia@brotka.st
2023-11-26T12:10:30.980413Z
13 likes, 9 repeats
$100 gets you a cheap new Chromebook or a used ThinkPad :ChenShrug:
(DIR) Post #AcCL5OLaOhUvBqogJk by symmetrizer@kolektiva.social
2023-11-26T12:13:32Z
5 likes, 0 repeats
@kaia this is kind of sad. When the raspberry pis became so beefed up, power hungry and expensive the kind of lost relevance for me
(DIR) Post #AcCLqxdyyzSQGt6Vuq by grillchen@brotka.st
2023-11-26T12:24:00.625320Z
4 likes, 1 repeats
@kaia power consumption is lower, IO is better. different use cases to a laptop. and a laptop is still more expensivethe price is pretty wrong, it was available few days ago for below 70€ im more annoyed by the pi often being mislabeled as open hardware. i have big hopes for stuff like the beagleVOpen Source and OpenHardware with an OpenSource CPU:https://www.beagleboard.org/boards/beaglev-aheadHavent compared benchmarks but i assume it is still much weaker than current gen pisi might get another pi zero 2 w or pi 4 for different use cases. sure laptops or whatever could do similar things but the IO is much worse, the documentation also and the energy + space consumption much higher
(DIR) Post #AcCMH4dbbO8ZUYNZbM by raccoon@den.raccoon.quest
2023-11-26T12:28:42.806Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@grillchen@brotka.st @kaia@brotka.st I might get a pi5 or a zero2. I wonder what the zero2 can handle.And with how google is behaving lately maybe I should set the zeroW as a pihole...
(DIR) Post #AcCMUP1F8Vq8T3n77g by newt@stereophonic.space
2023-11-26T12:30:53.292809Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@raccoon @kaia @grillchen don't. There are cheaper and better boards in the same category than Pis.
(DIR) Post #AcCMXveoFF1MYtyn3o by grillchen@brotka.st
2023-11-26T12:31:45.185673Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@raccoon @kaia i did use it as a babyphone setup with a local webserver, camera and stuffit seems to be strong enough for klipper but i might wanna use another pi 4 for other printers due to better IO (i need pins for certain tests though only need to run the tests once til the setup changes....)oh and i wanna control 2 screens with a pi zero 2 w and barrier/synergy. basically reducing the load on my main desktops GPU
(DIR) Post #AcCMfqGKBeBA99IfZ2 by grillchen@brotka.st
2023-11-26T12:33:12.616187Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@newt @kaia @raccoon older pis often have amazing documentation for all kind of projects. i wanna agree with this statement, but i got burnt once with a rockpro64 and the lack of driver support. though it might be pine64 specific.
(DIR) Post #AcCMhSvDw8JSKxCkCG by grillchen@brotka.st
2023-11-26T12:33:30.745740Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@newt @kaia @raccoon (older as in not the PI5 rn)
(DIR) Post #AcCMu8rroCefu9gA5Y by newt@stereophonic.space
2023-11-26T12:35:30.739794Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@grillchen @kaia @raccoon there are RV boards on ali that I wanna try poking some time. Seems like a better deal than fully proprietary ARM with the weirdest to date boot sequence.
(DIR) Post #AcCMxFcz8EQbjtCVBg by raccoon@den.raccoon.quest
2023-11-26T12:36:19.117Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@newt@stereophonic.space @kaia@brotka.st @grillchen@brotka.st Links?
(DIR) Post #AcCMz4FqO83n2qF7J2 by grillchen@brotka.st
2023-11-26T12:36:40.975513Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@raccoon @kaia @newt the beagleV in my initial response post
(DIR) Post #AcCND6xt6kEJVNXZk8 by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-11-26T12:38:54.592352Z
2 likes, 0 repeats
@grillchen @kaia I have a couple beagleboard blacks, they never get used because there's just no support for them like the pis. they have little coprocessors on them for running things like gpio and literally almost nobody uses them so there's not good information
(DIR) Post #AcCNRONLAlRPYbFtmi by phnt@fluffytail.org
2023-11-26T12:41:48.189098Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@symmetrizer @kaia On the other hand, most people just buy them, thinking they will make use of it and then put them in a drawer and forget about it.
(DIR) Post #AcCNVpVgEGVos6GwSm by grillchen@brotka.st
2023-11-26T12:42:36.314753Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@Moon @kaia yeah kinda the reason why i might still go for a pi the coming year if necessary. but i really hope longterm risc-v will make stuff easier for all
(DIR) Post #AcCNo09JPZGP55TUZ6 by grillchen@brotka.st
2023-11-26T12:45:53.395945Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@Moon @kaia though this is just hope, i have no idea how ARM is to blame for bad driver support... we need better standarization for some things. like MIPI sucks hard
(DIR) Post #AcCNxu134NTuxGKYvg by l0ngyap@akm.longyap.name.my
2023-11-26T12:47:41.283549Z
2 likes, 0 repeats
@kaia *not included with power brick and stuff
(DIR) Post #AcCO9tq7YCoPsowLBo by symmetrizer@kolektiva.social
2023-11-26T12:48:29Z
2 likes, 0 repeats
@phnt @kaia imagine all the pi:s living in drawers not having been used in years, in a pile. That is probably a huuuuuge pile. Also kind of sad.
(DIR) Post #AcCOBRImclBdxE54YS by michcia@ak.kawen.space
2023-11-26T12:11:59.812631Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@kaia i think both things have tradeoffs and the comparison ignores the difference in performance and having-wifi too
(DIR) Post #AcCOBS6PeEsyR9Ihua by Natanox@chaos.social
2023-11-26T12:22:48Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@michcia @kaia Kinda yes but no. No very point of the Raspberry Pi was its availability and low price. While the price might match the performance they've lost their objective of making technology accessible to almost anyone. It's most blatant with the Zero, which is a board that was even more specifically meant to be cheap.
(DIR) Post #AcCOBSruncsooTWdxA by michcia@ak.kawen.space
2023-11-26T12:30:47.174388Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@Natanox @kaia honestly i am not sure what you're supposed to be doing with zero, but i admit i am out of touch with "normal" uses of a pi (i have a pi400 that's a home server)
(DIR) Post #AcCOBTeprk0zGCPiCm by Natanox@chaos.social
2023-11-26T12:40:13Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@michcia @kaia The first Zero would be a nice SBC choice to build stuff like an environmental sensor station, smart regulators and stuff, given the GPIO pins. The Zero 2 is way too expensive for that purpose.With 30$/€ the Zero 2 is basically inside the limbo, not being a full SBC with the necessary I/O but also too expensive for smaller stuff unless you're rich enough to just spend hundreds on just a few of them.
(DIR) Post #AcCOBUTWpGZ3nQ8CDg by michcia@ak.kawen.space
2023-11-26T12:46:12.169378Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@Natanox @kaia i think my view on this is rather that the zero is in a limbo for this, because it feels to me like too much power for this stuff, which could instead be served with something like an esp8266 with the added benefit of wifii would say that what zero 2 is is the equivalent of the original base model, since it's comparable in power to model 3 so it's even a bit better. also wait what the website lists zero 2 w as 15$
(DIR) Post #AcCOSZUBRxKOG7aAlc by SlicerDicer@bikeshed.party
2023-11-26T12:53:12.770660Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@Moon @grillchen @kaia Gotta read a minimum of 16,000 pages of documentation.
(DIR) Post #AcCOW8PC4nePQdwoAi by lain@lain.com
2023-11-26T12:53:01.881877Z
2 likes, 0 repeats
@kaia i have never been able to get a rpi for the supposed retail price, they were always much more expensive
(DIR) Post #AcCOZyCJyClkvdkt9M by SlicerDicer@bikeshed.party
2023-11-26T12:54:33.605384Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@lain @kaia I have like 20 of them so I’m good for a while.
(DIR) Post #AcCOnTyT8Xc7FLieu0 by SlicerDicer@bikeshed.party
2023-11-26T12:56:58.604963Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@lain @kaia I should mention the pi zero is really cool too.
(DIR) Post #AcCOvdUVdaIz4xasSG by lain@lain.com
2023-11-26T12:57:41.455636Z
2 likes, 0 repeats
@SlicerDicer @kaia i used some small pi in the amiga 500 as a CPU replacement, it's pretty crazy but it works, adds RAM plus a virtual harddisk, too.
(DIR) Post #AcCXT6UXdOYmDD4vXE by m0n5t3r@ps.m0n5t3r.info
2023-11-26T14:34:08.011773Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@grillchen @kaia @Moon with the beaglebone most of the blame is on TI - last time I looked you needed an archaic kernel version to get accelerated graphics, for instance, because the driver was a proprietary blob
(DIR) Post #AcCYIa2DYMXAbiNNY0 by m0n5t3r@ps.m0n5t3r.info
2023-11-26T14:43:27.485433Z
2 likes, 0 repeats
@grillchen @Moon @kaia also, the BBB has always been more expensive and with less cpu / ram than the competition, and capes tend to be ridiculously expensive as well; I swore off raspberries in 2014, so I've mostly used orange pi / banana pi when needed (got 2 BBBs, one normal and one wireless, waiting in boxes to be put in a cnc controller and a 3d printer; they've been there for a few years already
(DIR) Post #AcCaMIrNYCCAPJD2aO by grillchen@brotka.st
2023-11-26T15:06:33.533143Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@m0n5t3r @kaia @Moon also got 2 oranges pis in use, happy with those
(DIR) Post #AcCh8gWfSoOvQlyWtU by birdulon@shpposter.club
2023-11-26T16:22:30.537615Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@kaia the real question is if they ever managed to stop corrupting SD cards (their boot drives) when used with anything besides the official power supplies
(DIR) Post #AcCkTjWVoWnUffdANE by MtnStateNomad@noagendasocial.com
2023-11-26T16:59:57Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@kaia I was looking at PC network cards last week and noticed retail had jumped up to around $50 or more. I was like wtf, these used to be like $10 or so.
(DIR) Post #AcCvxFEk5ALkvEasEa by heimdall@noagendasocial.com
2023-11-26T19:03:22Z
0 likes, 1 repeats
@kaia
(DIR) Post #AcCwThgdqEA6QP7Z3Y by izaya@social.shadowkat.net
2023-11-26T19:12:24.119454Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@kaia Got an i7 4790/8GB RAM/256GB SSD SFF desktop for $90 a few weeks ago
(DIR) Post #AcCxoWzIunDXHILTYu by shroomie@0w0.is
2023-11-26T19:28:33.902853Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@kaia i’ve heard that pine64 has a reasonable alternative, but i don’t really follow small-computer stuff nowadays anyways.
(DIR) Post #AcDAC0HHNfa8EHiDFw by Grey08@chaos.social
2023-11-26T20:47:15Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@kaia since the ceo ditched the community from 2020 till now i won't buy any Raspberry Pi. They showed there real face and it was not the "we do all for our community" one... I am really upset about that, probably more than i should XDSo the next projects are planed with Lenovo's Tiny PC's, older Notebooks or some sort of Arduino or one of the ESP varieties..