Post Ac1qTP4wHzUAFVOtHs by jabberati@social.anoxinon.de
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 (DIR) Post #AbzhHkVPVj4fKDEL6O by jabberati@social.anoxinon.de
       2023-11-19T13:31:39Z
       
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       @rhys If you still have contacts on Matrix this bridge might help out: https://aria-net.org/SitePages/Portal/Bridges.aspxBut of course, using bridges always reinforces network effects on messengers you might not want to promote.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbzhHlSFyw96GilKpE by nicoco@pouet.pas.la
       2023-11-20T09:52:51Z
       
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       @jabberati > But of course, using bridges always reinforces network effects on messengers you might not want to promote.I see you writing that every time you mention gateways but I call `[ref needed]`.FWIW, both @singpolyma (if I recall correctly?) and I started using XMPP because it had and still has nice and efficient bridges, so it might be the other way around. ;o)
       
 (DIR) Post #Ac0CKxEVkBxiFKKm00 by jabberati@social.anoxinon.de
       2023-11-20T15:40:49Z
       
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       @nicoco @singpolyma It's just a personal observation. I'm successful at getting my friends to use XMPP because I'm not available on any of the walled gardens they use. If my friends could reach me on WhatsApp they have little reason to go through the (comparatively) difficult process of setting up XMPP.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ac1fsFKmYamplrSEIS by nicoco@pouet.pas.la
       2023-11-21T08:46:31Z
       
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       @jabberati I know it was just an observation, and this is why I wanted to point out another observation that temper your "obvious" one. ;-)Your approach to migrate friends to XMPP (which I am also guilty of sometimes), sounds a bit like emotional blackmail to me and I am not convinced it serves the cause in the long run. Also, "friends" are only one small subset of the people I have to use IM to communicate with.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ac1qTP4wHzUAFVOtHs by jabberati@social.anoxinon.de
       2023-11-21T10:45:14Z
       
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       @nicoco It's not blackmail to not have WhatsApp.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ac3JZ7bfFrQ1ctkKPY by jabberati@social.anoxinon.de
       2023-11-19T13:39:28Z
       
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       @rhys No it doesn't. E2EE can only work if you agree on a encryption standard. Since Matrix isn't compatible with any existing standards and they cooked up their own thing for themselves, Matrix bridges don't support E2EE, including OMEMO.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ac3JZ8SU5TfaGiSVk0 by didek@101010.pl
       2023-11-22T03:45:57Z
       
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       @jabberati @rhys Hope MLS would mitigate that.