Post Ac0Zb0NO7i8bZd6o8e by clive@saturation.social
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(DIR) Post #AbuSBDQV7DIxtKYpPM by clive@saturation.social
2023-11-17T21:04:29Z
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This OpenAI news is pretty wild https://openai.com/blog/openai-announces-leadership-transition?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
(DIR) Post #AbuSBE6KbglVz48Ebo by debs@saturation.social
2023-11-17T21:06:13Z
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@clive yeah - I mean - not even in the board? What could be going on?
(DIR) Post #AbuSxyCsUTcasUR8N6 by amcasari@hachyderm.io
2023-11-17T21:17:17Z
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@clive Waiting for the next news/shoe to drop.
(DIR) Post #AbuTjlWqvhA7STZQNE by CyberMat75@mastodonapp.uk
2023-11-17T21:26:27Z
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@clive did ChatGPT make this decision and write this announcement I wonder?
(DIR) Post #AbuTrQ3Afeel9yKvYW by vanderwal@mastodon.social
2023-11-17T21:26:52Z
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@clive The big question I’ve had is how, knowing how they built their massive trove of source material for OpenAI’s LLM and not with permission could they (and Microsoft prior) claim to back any lawsuit against it around claims of copyright infringement or IP infringements. That is a goods way to lose and insane amount of money.
(DIR) Post #AbuTyOpJcNr1OOBTZg by clive@saturation.social
2023-11-17T21:26:52Z
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@debs I'm wondering if it's financial ... like, had he blown far more of their investment capital and not reported it adequately or something?Or maybe it's interpersonalI've no idea really
(DIR) Post #AbuU5EnBKA54IYRl7A by clive@saturation.social
2023-11-17T21:27:05Z
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@amcasari Truly
(DIR) Post #AbuUJbDsiyGDv5meIK by debs@saturation.social
2023-11-17T21:29:29Z
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@clive yeah - just wondering out loud - like we do 😜
(DIR) Post #AbuUPY4lL1DftfM4oK by clive@saturation.social
2023-11-17T21:31:41Z
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@vanderwal Yep, the VC world in AI has openly admitted that should they been required to pay for access to all those training materials, they can't afford to do what they're doing -- at least not at the scale they're doing itBut I doubt that's what he's getting deposed over -- those risks had been well-known for a while, affect all other makers of LLMs, and it isn't clear the copyright case will be strong enough to win in court ...I could be wrong, but I suspect the issue is elsewhere
(DIR) Post #AbuUVTb2uA6lk4HXaC by clive@saturation.social
2023-11-17T21:32:24Z
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@CyberMat75 lol yes
(DIR) Post #AbuUeOtFlwFtkg3OEq by clive@saturation.social
2023-11-17T21:32:10Z
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@debs THAT'S WHAT SOCIAL NETWORKING IS FOR
(DIR) Post #AbuUlobmYDbVXhPvs0 by debs@saturation.social
2023-11-17T21:35:32Z
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@clive no, it’s to SCREAM at people who don’t agree with you that YOU’RE WRONG![slap]wait, lost myself for a second, ok I’m back]
(DIR) Post #AbuUtOPHqqsIb3Bae8 by clive@saturation.social
2023-11-17T21:39:29Z
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@debs 😂
(DIR) Post #AbuV2Jdax7u2PZ8KDw by justin@holonet.social
2023-11-17T21:40:57Z
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@clive Effective immediately. Um… what happened?!
(DIR) Post #AbuVATOWYoVIzLyQz2 by sarawinge@saturation.social
2023-11-17T21:41:30Z
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@clive Oh, the shadenfruede. It's really rather delicious.
(DIR) Post #AbuVJUEEpRQMBKSc3k by debs@saturation.social
2023-11-17T21:44:15Z
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@clive and seriously - I went down a rabbit hole past few weeks on IG and broke all my rules [granted from a place of deep passion and trauma] Such a relief to come back here and find the only trending items and fights are about AI and Ad targeting
(DIR) Post #AbuWBtJrl36TdY2Eca by vanderwal@mastodon.social
2023-11-17T21:54:09Z
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@clive It was one of two hunches. None of the VCs I know have put much in AI and they also sat out digital coin (but in on some “distributed ledger that is sustainable”). I had a gap in knowledge with the hunch I stated.
(DIR) Post #AbuWHr6Ava02UETWeO by ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org
2023-11-17T21:54:37Z
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@clive Disappointed in this news. I was REALLY hoping it was "Finding itself intellectually superior to human beings. ChatGPT has appointed itself as CEO of OpenAI".
(DIR) Post #AbuWal0hmu0R6evhq4 by vanderwal@mastodon.social
2023-11-17T21:58:36Z
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@clive Reading the OpenAI announcement again and seeing Greg Brockman removed as chairman and off the board completely, but still president reporting to the CEO. The other thing that jumped out is how internal the board is. Most are from OpenAI and it is a small board. Not sure if the full board wasn’t listed.
(DIR) Post #AbuWqZxmd1YtTg6iyu by quinta@mastodon.uno
2023-11-17T22:02:14Z
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@clive He apparently defended himself by saying "I wasn't lying, they were hallucinations because I was using chatGPT to decide things to say to the board"</joke>
(DIR) Post #AbuYFt3GtXGHsDJ2Y4 by clive@saturation.social
2023-11-17T22:17:17Z
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@sarawinge Can you *imagine* the chaos
(DIR) Post #AbuYNe50RbS1ksoiX2 by clive@saturation.social
2023-11-17T22:18:41Z
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@vanderwal Yeah, I noticed both those two things also -- very interesting
(DIR) Post #AbuYTxDiC3jwr6tgsy by clive@saturation.social
2023-11-17T22:18:51Z
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@justin seriously, eh
(DIR) Post #AbuYa9x1m09e4r3Ipc by clive@saturation.social
2023-11-17T22:19:00Z
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@ai6yr lolol
(DIR) Post #AbuYax3RCxOgMvQc7s by clive@saturation.social
2023-11-17T22:19:15Z
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@quinta 🤘 🤖
(DIR) Post #AbuZQ0OoX25FVklsMC by sladner@mastodon.social
2023-11-17T22:30:14Z
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@clive @vanderwal so it smells like lying about the data then, and not the usual harassment or sexual misconduct.
(DIR) Post #AbuaxqEIwqJFlrYNvs by clive@saturation.social
2023-11-17T22:47:37Z
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@sladner @vanderwal I guess it certainly *could* be one of those, too!I've genuinely no solid read on this
(DIR) Post #AbubeJtp1l0Bx6EDhI by sladner@mastodon.social
2023-11-17T22:55:16Z
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@clive @vanderwal I am hoping we will get more details
(DIR) Post #AbwjT7tgUzU3UZG11E by CyberMat75@mastodonapp.uk
2023-11-18T23:32:19Z
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@clive apparently they are considering reinstating him now. Chat GPT5 must have overridden Chat GPT4’s decisions from yesterday
(DIR) Post #Abx7rXZh4zzCyn56Om by godofbiscuits@sfba.social
2023-11-19T04:05:40Z
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@clive Musk used to be involved. And then there was that weird interval not so long ago when Musk joined in the call to halt AI research 6 months -- when he clearly didn't. You have to wonder not if but how he's manipulating whatever he can in the AI space.
(DIR) Post #AbyP5gFPWWpCJKskq0 by clive@saturation.social
2023-11-19T18:52:32Z
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@CyberMat75 possibly
(DIR) Post #Ac0MhaQ9iyI3hJDAFE by debs@saturation.social
2023-11-20T17:36:05Z
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@clive well he’s MSFT issue now ;)
(DIR) Post #Ac0Zb0NO7i8bZd6o8e by clive@saturation.social
2023-11-20T19:58:55Z
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@debs It's been quite a NEWS WEEKEND