Post AbsrUgIG7bAtSeAGDg by falcon@mastodon.falconk.rocks
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(DIR) Post #AbsrUbBh6Zx7cq3RnE by danilo@hachyderm.io
2023-11-16T19:18:21Z
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“I don’t like this form of automation because it does not address any of my existing deficits, therefore no one needs it”okaaaaaaay?Just a fundamentally unserious chapter in critiquing technology, and a waste of time and organizing energy that could go to building the counter power against the mega wealth #AI is about to concentrate in the hands of seriously bad dudes
(DIR) Post #AbsrUc9xUW9sdkFZj6 by danilo@hachyderm.io
2023-11-16T19:24:15Z
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To me, this is like fighting car culture by hating the internal combustion engine.No. That’s bullshit strategy. You fight car culture by advocating for public ownership of transportation infrastructure. By ensuring there’s great transit for everyone who needs it at a price that DEMOLISHES car interestSimilarly, if you think that the purveyors of the greatest productivity multiplier in a generation are fucks, you make sure that people are building alternatives.
(DIR) Post #AbsrUcqUwMBalg9Y24 by danilo@hachyderm.io
2023-11-16T19:27:01Z
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An #LLM is SOFTWARESoftware can be made open, so LLMs areSoftware can be made more efficient, and LLMs areSoftware can be made portable and private, software can be made ethically. We gotta put our energy into that project, otherwise people will roll their eyes at us being obstacles to their success and pursue the products made by people with terrible values WHO SHIP
(DIR) Post #AbsrUdiNi1HtSnMa1I by danilo@hachyderm.io
2023-11-16T19:31:01Z
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From one perspective, tools like #ChatGPT and Stable Diffusion are biased vampires of value extraction. And that’s a legit positionSimultaneously true at the same time is that these same tools are LADDERS for many people, able to make them more successful and increasing their range of motionSo the answer in our critique must be to position BETTER LADDERS, produced and distributed in accordance with our values, not the obstruction of individuals’ success
(DIR) Post #AbsrUecOLm5gGVZJK4 by danilo@hachyderm.io
2023-11-16T19:37:07Z
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Finally: twice a month for the last two years, I’ve gone to my local library to help seniors with technology problems, because that’s an issue of economic justiceSomeone told me sadly that 25 years ago they hoped computers would be a fad and they wouldn’t have to worry about it.And instead they gradually lost control of their life, and have spent years digging out.That’s what we sign people up for when we convince them they can ignore the future.
(DIR) Post #AbsrUfOFTqN6evxWuu by danilo@hachyderm.io
2023-11-16T21:32:05Z
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One other thing that occurs to me:It's not popularly understood how dramatically FAST products like #ChatGPT are changing.The first demos of GPT-3 were underwhelming.ChatGPT's free product uses last year's model, which is better, but again ultimately underwhelmingto truly understand the state of the art, you need ChatGPT 4 access, which costs $20 monthly, and which incurious skeptics are disinclined to doand so they have NO IDEA how much the critique of it not being useful rings hollow
(DIR) Post #AbsrUgIG7bAtSeAGDg by falcon@mastodon.falconk.rocks
2023-11-17T01:58:36Z
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@danilo most of what you say is right, but as an AGI skeptic who has used GPT4 a bunch, it remains that the claims made about it are wildly overblown and it (and every LLM forever) remains structurally incapable of cognition. The pushed delusion that it is capable of it exists to excuse the declining usefulness of everything it touches as capitalists use it to replace humans who are paid to communicate to other humans.
(DIR) Post #AbsrUhR9rzt50XKsjI by mnl@hachyderm.io
2023-11-17T02:31:05Z
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@falcon @danilo whatever AGI is supposed to mean or not, I find the implication of it generalizing well enough in the tiny field of “manipulate formal language mostly correctly within bounds” really far reaching for software engineering. It’s always hard to talk about these things in the abstract, and while they don’t “code” very well, most of what programmers do is not challenging, if it is code at all.1/
(DIR) Post #AbsrUiHyhc8deM343k by mnl@hachyderm.io
2023-11-17T02:31:06Z
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@falcon @danilo there is no doubt in my mind that tools able to go figma to react+css with some prearranged framework will come in the next year (I am doing it for my job already).just that is enough to uproot a whole industry, because of the sheer speed at which it will happen (compared to say, square space taking over the business homepage business).It’s not that the llm will do it all by itself, I’m squarely a human at the center person, but that one …
(DIR) Post #AbsrUiKSYO7hm3D2vY by danilo@hachyderm.io
2023-11-16T21:34:22Z
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I just compared both models yesterday with a reasonably sophisticated task and the difference was NIGHT AND DAYThe next chapter of technology is going to be shaped by #AI on the same level as the last one was shaped by mobile, open source or cloud computing.Feel how you need to feel about it, it's coming either way.Get sophisticated in your critique and shape it for the better. Or stay incurious and sit out your opportunity to build alternatives to the ilk of OpenAI. You get to choose.
(DIR) Post #AbsrUj4tljGo64w8JM by mnl@hachyderm.io
2023-11-17T02:31:08Z
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@falcon @danilo solo developer can wield the scythe of many laborers, along with the synergies coming with having a single brain in the loop.What the implications are is very unclear to me. Are devs better off? Less? But that’s what I’d like to discuss rather than either agi extrapolations or “oh but they can’t do xyz no worries”.
(DIR) Post #AbsrUjv0dyxChhJkXI by danilo@hachyderm.io
2023-11-17T02:33:44Z
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@mnl @falcon this tracks with my experience. the analogy that is most persuasive to me is electricity:electricity doesn't do all the work but it changes the laborer's range of motion(incidentally, all this time wasting over "is it intelligence, is it not” is why I prefer ‘pattern synthesis’)https://redeem-tomorrow.com/what-if-bill-gates-is-right-about-ai
(DIR) Post #AbsrUkl7WEdbJJhMlE by falcon@mastodon.falconk.rocks
2023-11-17T02:40:31Z
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@danilo @mnl The programming application is interesting to me because programming is one of those fields that is stubborn about generating a lot of rote boilerplate. Sure, machine learning can generate mostly correct boilerplate for things like deep copies, but I am super disappointed to see the emphasis move to that and away from questioning the need for writing code at such a low level in the first place. It is a continuation of the approach that used IDEs to automate the writing of Java.
(DIR) Post #AbsrUmFdyEeDwGzFya by falcon@mastodon.falconk.rocks
2023-11-17T02:43:16Z
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@danilo @mnl what we are doing with LLMs, fundamentally, is making it easier to generate copious amounts of text (or code) that probably should not exist in the first place, or at least, that has a more compact and readable representation. But generalizations, compact representations, and concise examples are what enhance the usability of knowledge. LLMs are machines for generating convincing verbosity. These are opposites.
(DIR) Post #AbsrUmxxJU5q9hie2q by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-11-17T02:44:01.362668Z
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@falcon @danilo @mnl finally i can automate making bullshit those spread sheets