Post AbqBXGc9T3vSIR6FOq by mttaggart@infosec.town
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(DIR) Post #Abq436OIDNSKDpHpPU by mttaggart@infosec.town
2023-11-15T18:20:52.457Z
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Employers: how much do you care about the one-page resume rule?
(DIR) Post #Abq49lEfGg9SdYxTF2 by tweedge@cybersecurity.theater
2023-11-15T18:21:53Z
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@mttaggart Don't care. Also my resume is 2pgs. The only time I would care is if someone had 1pg of content stretched suuuper thin to 2pg - 1pg for students is a good rule, for professionals IMHO it's not.
(DIR) Post #Abq4IvpVFT7A6IYuWG by mttaggart@infosec.town
2023-11-15T18:23:44.161Z
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@tweedge@cybersecurity.theater Yeah this is where I'm at. I can also see the wisdom in preventing 5+ pages of material, but this rule does more harm than good imo.
(DIR) Post #Abq4JcbqC8jgmNV6h6 by mitch@posts.dumb.stuff.donaberger.xyz
2023-11-15T18:22:55Z
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@mttaggart ancient advice. hasn't been relevant for a decade.
(DIR) Post #Abq4R00naDF1O7gzXk by pch@s3th.me
2023-11-15T18:24:27Z
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@mttaggart 2 pages max but 1 page is sometimes not enough.
(DIR) Post #Abq4UkjUKgq59uNxPU by mttaggart@infosec.town
2023-11-15T18:25:52.465Z
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@pch@s3th.me Yeah I feel like 3 needs extraordinary justification but 1 is unnecessarily limiting.
(DIR) Post #Abq4ZI5WGCQXlbr1GK by pch@s3th.me
2023-11-15T18:26:28Z
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@mttaggart Yep!
(DIR) Post #Abq4nSKmxgKjbDkbxY by ckure@infosec.exchange
2023-11-15T18:28:15Z
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@mttaggart I care inasmuch as it is a proxy for "be direct about showing me why to hire you". During hiring periods, I review a LOT of resumes, and do not have time to read them all in detail without doing some screening. Confusing or long resumes make this more difficult.
(DIR) Post #Abq4nTF9a7Q6Q27coa by mttaggart@infosec.town
2023-11-15T18:29:15.154Z
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@ckure@infosec.exchange But if a solid document goes to 2, do you discount it?
(DIR) Post #Abq4oTJumW4GwkpIqO by martin_brett@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-11-15T18:27:41Z
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@mitch @mttaggart That "rule" is long gone. Beyond entry level, it will take multiple pages to provide evidence to meet the minimum requirements for most technical jobs.
(DIR) Post #Abq4zcUR1s3yZU3xg0 by ckure@infosec.exchange
2023-11-15T18:30:50Z
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@mttaggart no, not at all
(DIR) Post #Abq7tvAQyRQkchgL2G by davidseidl@mstdn.social
2023-11-15T19:02:09Z
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@mttaggart For anything past an entry level job? Not at all. I do care if you know how to focus it to be useful, and if you use it to provide relevant information and meaningful measures of impact, scope, and scale.
(DIR) Post #Abq7vjaB16ZRGyaTi4 by catsalad@infosec.exchange
2023-11-15T18:59:38Z
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@mttaggart Even with more pages on my résumé, I alway worry about running out of room to highlight my MS Office proficiency 😔
(DIR) Post #Abq7xT2ZUTrSY1hAK8 by freequaybuoy@mastodon.green
2023-11-15T18:59:06Z
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@mttaggart Never heard of it. Always been two pages in my experience.
(DIR) Post #Abq84rDO0ceDYCHGlc by mttaggart@infosec.town
2023-11-15T19:06:00.760Z
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@catsalad@infosec.exchange The WordArt Appendix is a rare and powerful flex.
(DIR) Post #Abq8D5U0qOyq7RykUK by http_error_418@hachyderm.io
2023-11-15T19:05:56Z
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@mttaggart it's not strict, but it better have my attention by the end of the first page, and if it does go on for another 4 there should be a good reason. Do you have a stack of published papers and relevant major projects? Fine, show off a bit. Are you just listing every retail outlet you did a summer job with since you were 16 or going into boring detail on all your hobbies and university club participation to make it look bigger? I'mma play wastepaper basketball.
(DIR) Post #Abq8D6NJWnDSsxquga by mttaggart@infosec.town
2023-11-15T19:07:29.205Z
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@http_error_418@hachyderm.io Right, so quality, not quantity.Also, how many paper resumes are you getting?
(DIR) Post #Abq8HOn30Fqx9nwDj6 by http_error_418@hachyderm.io
2023-11-15T19:08:05Z
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@mttaggart also my general rule isn't one, it's usually: aim for two, if you can't keep it within two, you're probably not good at conciseness, which is a mark against you
(DIR) Post #Abq8PFOlnwngLXKCzw by jefftp@hachyderm.io
2023-11-15T18:59:56Z
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@mttaggart 2 pages max and a link to LinkedIn or other places where I can read more. Longer resumes are a waste of my time. If I wanted a CV I’d ask for one.
(DIR) Post #Abq8QtUIEvpCyCh3lg by mttaggart@infosec.town
2023-11-15T19:09:59.757Z
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@jefftp@hachyderm.io If a blog is linked, will you read posts? What about GitHub?
(DIR) Post #Abq8qLLJoOGYbKdArQ by http_error_418@hachyderm.io
2023-11-15T19:10:09Z
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@mttaggart that was an expression for comedic effect 😑 however there have been a couple where I was tempted to print it off for that purpose. The guy who put a hazard warning border around each page comes to mind...
(DIR) Post #Abq8tjeNtSIMrHAMjY by mttaggart@infosec.town
2023-11-15T19:15:12.436Z
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@http_error_418@hachyderm.io I'm gonna put 90s "under construction" gifs on my next one.
(DIR) Post #AbqBVbmXnQ2PMqAanY by g@irrelephant.co
2023-11-15T19:36:54Z
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@mttaggart I don’t, but sometimes I receive 8 page resumes with a ridiculous level of detail (even seen WAY worse than 8 pages). I think if you keep it to 2, or 3 if you have a lot of experience, it shouldn’t be a major issue.
(DIR) Post #AbqBXGc9T3vSIR6FOq by mttaggart@infosec.town
2023-11-15T19:44:45.608Z
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@g@irrelephant.co Totally reasonable heuristic. As others have said, going on for that many pages is a red flag in and of itself.
(DIR) Post #AbqCsjG6GQBHAdaCzw by g@irrelephant.co
2023-11-15T19:58:33Z
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@mttaggart I’m trying to imagine that person explain a security vulnerability and associated risk at a high level to a manager in another team and I can only imagine them starting by explaining the history of C, how CVSS scores are calculated, why using OSCAL would be nice, 62 theories on what could happen (61 of them being insanely far fetched).And that was pre-LLMs 😂
(DIR) Post #AbqH7sQqq5rtmX5fLU by benmontour@infosec.exchange
2023-11-15T20:30:32Z
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@mttaggart @g I think the record for ones I've received is 23 pages. You are absolutely correct in that being a red flag in and of itself. 2-3 pages is the sweet spot, unless you're just starting out in your career.
(DIR) Post #AbqKNjRGLNOKNwXD0K by jefftp@hachyderm.io
2023-11-15T21:20:49Z
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@mttaggart Yes! But I might be unusual as I do all my own screening for sales engineer candidates. Resume with technical skills list and brief company history will get me interested. Think of resume as a flyer or advert. Resume with many pages makes me question if the candidate understands effective written communication.