Post AbaQeFpBw5lp1OAtaS by unicorny@spinster.xyz
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(DIR) Post #AbY8kIEJielMjAjkye by unicorny@spinster.xyz
2023-11-07T01:14:35.857484Z
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radfem.kindrad.org is up! A subdomain dedicated to going over radical feminist stances. https://radfem.kindrad.org/In the future, my plan is to further add pages for each radical feminist stance that would go into greater detail about the stance. If anyone is particularly passionate about any stance, I welcome any efforts to collaborate and share knowledge and resources. If anyone wants to help on a specific stance page, I am happy to credit you on the page however you'd like.I'm grateful to receive any comments, feedback, or suggestions! :purple_sparkling_heart:
(DIR) Post #AbYNh7AFu21UqtmP0i by mittimithai@neenster.org
2023-11-07T05:36:11.956056Z
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Consider fixing up the "intersex" definition (I recall posting a comment on this earlier), right now it's almost self contradicting: "Describes people who have a medical condition where their reproductive or sexual anatomy doesn't fit into an exclusively male or female sex classification. Intersex covers a group of medical conditions in which there is a discrepancy between the external genitals and the internal genitals (the testes and ovaries). Intersex conditions are based on a sex binary, they are not a "third sex."There is no clinical consensus on what conditions count as "intersex":Dreger, A. D.; Herndon, A. M. (1 January 2009). "Progress and Politics in the Intersex Rights Movement: Feminist Theory in Action". GLQ: A Journal of Lesbian and Gay Studies. 15 (2): 199–224. doi:10.1215/10642684-2008-134. S2CID 145754009. In our experience some clinicians have played a sort of moving target game whereby their definition of intersex changes from venue to venue, or moment to moment. We end up spending a remarkable amount of time just trying to agree on which diagnoses (and thus which people) count in the conversation we're trying to have. This does not usually seem to be a purposeful attempt to stall or derail conversation (although that does sometimes result); rather it seems to stem from a lack of systematic consideration of what the term might mean. For example, some want to call intersex only those born with visibly ambiguous genitalia, or only those who have had a particularly unusual mix of prenatal sex hormones.Almost all "intersex" conditions are specific to either males or females. The very small number require more refined language in terms of molecular biology to even be discussed, these include conditions like XX male syndrome, complete gonadal dysgenesis and ovotesticular disorder. Nonetheless, we can describe these conditions in terms of the two sexes.
(DIR) Post #AbZXsawGjgaz55JJ5c by unicorny@spinster.xyz
2023-11-07T18:29:09.352296Z
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@mittimithai Yeah, I've tried to take into account your prior feedback on the definitions for male, female, and intersex. Intersex has shown to be difficult for me to explain in a clear and concise manner, even with revisions. I'll keep trying to improve the definition.Maybe something like this?> Intersex encompasses a group of medical conditions in which there is a deviation from what is expected in a person's sexual anatomy. Intersex conditions are based on the female-male sex binary, they are not a "third sex."
(DIR) Post #AbZXsimdZNe1PWrjBg by mittimithai@neenster.org
2023-11-07T19:04:53.791708Z
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I would consider adding a ref section at the bottom, just so people can find the sources you used for you definitions (and suggest picking very authoritative things); this will add a lot of credibility to this section.If it were me, I think I would emphasize the vagueness of the term (e.g., there are "intersex conditions" that have no effect on anatomy).My best try (perhaps using this as a source, not that I agree with everything Dreger says here https://alicedreger.com/dsd/):Intersex is difficult to define, moreso if one wants to track it's changing meaning over time.It has been used to describe a diverse set of conditions that have to do sex associated characteristics (including, but not limited to, sex chromosome complement and genitalia)[cite fausto sterling]. When considering the largest set of conditions that have been described as intersex, almost all are (naturally) sex specific. Some conditions are thought to benefit from certain treatments while others have been opposed by activism that claims the invasive treatments that seek to "normalize" such individuals do not provide benefits that outweigh their risks. "Intersex" has been described as a political term for this tyep of activism.Most "intersex" conditions are sex specific. Some do require refined terms and an understanding of molecular biology to discuss, but even those can be described in terms of the two sexes.Best of luck!
(DIR) Post #AbaQeFpBw5lp1OAtaS by unicorny@spinster.xyz
2023-11-08T01:33:01.047333Z
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@mittimithai Thank you for all your help and advice! One of my goals in the future for kindrad is to have a gender critical subdomain, and I am hoping to have a page that goes into greater detail on intersex there with reputable resources. Then I could link that page for further reading from the definitions page. The primary reason I included "intersex" as a definition when kindrad is about feminism and gender criticism is because of what I've seen of TRAs using people with DSDs as "political pawns." My main goal for the definitions page is for someone who is not very well-versed in gender discourse to get a quick explanation that sums up "intersex is a medical condition, it's not related to transgenderism," so that someone new to gender and transgender topics can keep that in mind when activists attempt to equivocate DSDs with transgender ideology.Based on your bio, do you have SRY+ve? Would you have any recommendations on articles or resources that you feel best explain intersex/DSDs from your perspective?
(DIR) Post #AbaR07aXEtl3qbkL0C by mittimithai@neenster.org
2023-11-08T05:22:40.095422Z
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"SRY+ve" just means I have the SRY gene which, in something like > 99.9% just means that one is male. There are some people who have the SRY gene but do not have male bodies, and some that do not but still have male bodies. I am just an unremarkable male.I get that you would like an easy to read definition for your page, it may make sense to simply explain what intersex is not. It is not a medical condition, nth sex or some sort of evidence that sex is a continuum. It isn't a clinical term anymore and it's more of a political term.