Post AbXzgjVrRO90bAAe0m by danielquinn@mastodon.social
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 (DIR) Post #AbXZ8lKhZOtTaa5lWi by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-06T20:08:52Z
       
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       "The Laptop That Wouldn't Die"In a few of my blog posts on right-to-repair culture, I've mentioned my 12-year-old Thinkpad T420It is: indestructibleMy six-year-old Macbook Pro just died, so I'm using the thinkpad while I await a replacementThis Thinkpad has outlived *two* of my top of the line MacbooksIt was built when my eldest son was six ... he's now in collegeAnd it's still goingMy ode to it: https://clivethompson.medium.com/the-laptop-that-wont-die-0c478c3fe46cFree "friend" link: https://clivethompson.medium.com/the-laptop-that-wont-die-0c478c3fe46c?sk=dc587d3647aa02107f8b447e01d095f9
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXZYwFVbe68yT92GG by danhon@dan.mastohon.com
       2023-11-06T20:10:55Z
       
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       @clive jeez Clive I thought we might not warrant the quote marks by now, at the very least I’d offer to meet up and buy you a coffee
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXZj9dUgmOxOAEd1s by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-06T20:15:24Z
       
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       @danhon let's meet up! but I'll buy you one also so we will each be buying a coffee but for the other personAre you ever in NYC?
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXZqOxY7CEQwO4U7s by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-06T20:16:11Z
       
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       @danhon my "friend" 😂
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXaKFZnZ846WkC9aa by danhon@dan.mastohon.com
       2023-11-06T20:18:05Z
       
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       @clive I'm not, but you're on my list for whenever I am :)
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXaW3ywV17U2haZPM by RandallHawes@mstdn.ca
       2023-11-06T20:24:15Z
       
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       @clive We had a Toshiba Satellite laptop purchased in 2007. Screen went black early this year - almost made it to its' 16th birthday.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXagI98gtzIrvEfK4 by TammyGentzel@awscommunity.social
       2023-11-06T20:26:01Z
       
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       @clive Oy. I wish I had known you when…I couldn’t get new software to run on my thinkpad, so I abandoned it. 🥺
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXbfQHL4OUxksDjHs by martinvermeer@fediscience.org
       2023-11-06T20:37:08Z
       
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       @clive Thinkpads are excellent Linux machines. Currently on my third (refurbished) one, a T410, the first one with an SSD. No idea how old it is, or if the SSD is original. Got it a couple weeks ago for €100, including Ubuntu install. Like the earlier two, it suspends/resumes 100% reliably, which the BTO I bought in between (while otherwise a working though mediocre machine for €600) does so only now and then.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXc62KaDNUjIkQcQC by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-06T20:41:59Z
       
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       @danhon wooooo
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXcCFAzMxa2sTttQ0 by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-06T20:42:20Z
       
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       @RandallHawes Right on! I remember hearing very good things about those back in the day
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXcJOgAR6k8NStY1I by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-06T20:42:45Z
       
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       @TammyGentzel Oh drat, yes!
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXcQLm5dKZbOdyraa by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-06T20:43:22Z
       
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       @martinvermeer Yep yep -- they're just wonderful machines
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXdNA4amblMBqg7cW by MarkRNay@ravenation.club
       2023-11-06T20:56:08Z
       
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       @clive I can just visualize the apple fans heads exploding
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXfhbwn3b1KL9uLrc by johncormier@mstdn.ca
       2023-11-06T21:22:20Z
       
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       @clive your experience with laptops is significantly different from mine. My early 2011 MBP still works fine. Prior to that purchase, the last 3 laptops I owned were all Windows-based. The first, a Toshiba laptop, lasted 3 years. The second, a Dell, lasted 2 years. The last one, a Sony machine, lasted less than a year (9mo). In fact, my MBP has lasted 12.5 years, more than twice as long as all 3 Windows laptops combined (6 years total).
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXjYJSMpqaOCdV2CO by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-06T22:05:29Z
       
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       @johncormier Yep -- I think the build quality on MBPs before 2017ish was a lot better; things took a nosedive until the latest Apple-silicon machines, where the quality seems to have gone back up!And yeah, back in the late 90s and early 00s I went throgh a lot of Dell laptops in only a year or two ... they weren't terribly high qualityThese thinkbooks, though, are just unbelievably robust!
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXji436ySrdJVKuKO by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-06T22:07:17Z
       
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       @MarkRNay lolololyeahI mean, I *am* an apple fanLogic Pro is just an astonishingly great piece of software for recording music -- it soars so high above everything else, including Pro Tools, that it doesn't even feel like it's the same speciesBut wow, Apple really made a hash of its Macbook Pros with those butterly-keyboard yearsJust terrible, terrible industrial-design decisionsI gather the build quality has gone back up again ...
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXlvTJeXmw7LlauLQ by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-06T22:32:04Z
       
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       @arclight Gotta love a machine where you *can* upgrade the CPU!
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXmEwL8rEJ0ruZdjs by homeindorset@mastodonapp.uk
       2023-11-06T22:35:36Z
       
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       @clive My Toshiba C660-23M is also an indestructible 12 year old. All I've had to change was to put in a bigger disk and battery.Runs Linux really well.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXn0dA3T1R1Hp82Ua by Quinn9282@mas.to
       2023-11-06T22:44:14Z
       
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       @clive I don't own one myself, but I've seen many people online who use ThinkPads from that same era (mid 2000s-early 2010s) and they always rate them pretty highly (with or without Linux). They really were, and still are excellent machines and I wish they (and other modern laptops) were still built to that same standard today.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXnTELMoiy8iL3bmK by jamie@tenfoot.social
       2023-11-06T22:49:13Z
       
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       @clive My main machine is a Thinkpad T440p. I've upgraded the screen, RAM and storage. God knows how old it is, but it's old. I've run it as a Hackintosh for the past five years and its really, really difficult to come up with any reason to replace it. Fantastic machines.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXotAXFhNxWO0Y5EO by billyjoebowers@mastodon.online
       2023-11-06T23:05:16Z
       
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       @clive Damn man, I have several Macbooks that old. One of them has a huge bend in the corner where I dropped in on concrete, but still working fine. My newest Macbook is 10 years old.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXp3FqKoraTkBHeFM by cloudguy@mastodon.terabyte-computing.com
       2023-11-06T23:05:43Z
       
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       @clive love my T420 8Gb memory new SSD i7 with Linux MintIt's a good spare
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXpBmhmWU4HyqLmrI by crenquis@mstdn.io
       2023-11-06T23:08:37Z
       
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       @clive I had a refurb w510 that went for ages (died on my last year).   I just got a "new" refurb w510 to replace it (wife and friends laughed, but I'm sure it will still be going many years from now).
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXpRT8J3kpZuaEh9M by coldfish@sfba.social
       2023-11-06T23:11:29Z
       
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       @clive I ONLY buy thinkpads.  And when they get old, I add new memory and SSDs.  And when they get past that, Ubuntu.I've got like 5 of them in the house.  None of my kids realize their machine is old as dirt and they're working linux.  :)
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXpcMusVrkzoh9W4W by jnv@fosstodon.org
       2023-11-06T23:13:22Z
       
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       @clive my T470 is still going strong with Fedora.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXpvpvItGH9HXdOoC by johncormier@mstdn.ca
       2023-11-06T23:16:58Z
       
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       @clive think you’re right about how MBP build quality has trended over the years. But, in 2017 I accidentally dropped my new 15” MBP on my desk at work, and the only thing that was damaged was the desktop that lost a divot of wood the size of my thumb. Interestingly, at that company I was given the choice between a MBP and a Thinkbook. Wonder if the desk would have fared better had I chosen the Lenovo instead. 😂
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXsHJN8nKTUbd1Tqi by zinz@mastodon.social
       2023-11-06T23:43:13Z
       
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       @cliveGot one of those as well. Still my machine for when I am on the move after 12 years. Well the battery is pretty much toast but otherwise it's a solid piece of hardware.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXt0b5rkn7YbCXKls by tylerharper@mindly.social
       2023-11-06T23:51:27Z
       
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       @clive Hear hear! Used to get sent out on assignment with a Thinkpad from CP. I can still fell the texture of that scroll nob.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXtEnQWhCWmu6yG9I by alpinefolk@sunbeam.city
       2023-11-06T23:53:58Z
       
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       @clive I just moved from my 12 year old Macboook pro to a 7 year old MacBook Air. They have done very well for me. In fact the MacBook pro is still serviceable just issues with apps now being incompatible.That said I’m considering a secondhand Thinkpad as a Linux machine
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXuanyzPSb6x99Juy by ajlburke@mas.to
       2023-11-07T00:09:13Z
       
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       @clive I have a 12" ThinkPad X30 I get second hand in 2004 or so, and I still use it for SSH stuff and occasional org-mode. Battery is dead but the keyboard still makes me smile
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXx0dAsPuT2rx9TaC by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T00:36:20Z
       
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       @ajlburke I know, those keyboards! Magnificent
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXx8BKdooM6plJsmG by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T00:37:42Z
       
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       @alpinefolk I think the built quality on Apple is still generally excellent!They took a big dip during the butterfly-keyboard years, but they were superb before and I gather they've recovered nicely
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXxE2piKVtoDFeK6i by dbrand666@mastodon.social
       2023-11-06T23:54:09Z
       
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       @jamie @clive Best upgrade for a T440p (or T540p) is replacing that dreadful trackpad with one from the previous year. Especially if you mostly use the trackpoint.My T540p (and T500) are both still running fine.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXxE3hx4rHgvT1deC by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T00:36:48Z
       
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       @dbrand666 @jamie Yep -- that's the one weak point of the hardware in the T420. The  trackpad is really unremarkable
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXxJFZaOHv3AlaVJQ by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T00:38:05Z
       
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       @tylerharper Heh heh yeahIt's a proustian madeline
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXxQLk5qplSKlt6mG by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T00:38:41Z
       
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       @zinz I've replaced the battery on mine a few times -- remarkably, it's still pretty easy to order one online!
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXxc1d2SYJFQY9hIW by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T00:43:07Z
       
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       @linuxfiend Ah damn!Dead motherboard?
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXxqv1PJ3ETHPegvQ by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T00:45:44Z
       
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       @johncormier lol yeahThe MBP casings are amazingly robust, and have been for years nowOne of the consistently excellent parts of their builds
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXxxN43xN1tzTySbA by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T00:46:58Z
       
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       @jnv Nice!I bet you get many more years out of it
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXy9YRvSBj2m7wg76 by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T00:49:07Z
       
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       @coldfish Yes!Now that a very large chunk of what people do with computers has moved -- for better and for worse -- into the browser, the friction of switching to Linux has diminished dramaticallyAnd many of the other very-common desktop apps (i.e. Zoom, Teams, Whatsapp, Discord, etc) all have Linux variants nowHell, even Steam has a vibrant Linux base
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXyXefjy8U71bto48 by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T00:53:27Z
       
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       @crenquis Totally!I'm eyeing a $60 T440 for sale on Craiglist locally, to set up as a backup laptop for my kid who's in college nowIt'd need a power supply ($14); wouldn't hurt to add an 8gig RAM upgrade ($20) and a 500gig SSD ($50)So, for under $150, a kickass and speedy linux machine, with superb built quality
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXydq4oTr728HZjou by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T00:54:34Z
       
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       @cloudguy Yeah, Linux Mint would run *very* speedily on a T420 with an SSD!
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXykSlXY2u9rWieLA by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T00:55:20Z
       
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       @billyjoebowers Yep, I know some people who've gotten that many years outta their MBPs! I might have been unlucky, only getting 7 and then 6 years out of my last two ...
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXyxpvSkcQ3SMjmOu by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T00:57:47Z
       
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       @jamie A hackintosh! I've never actually tried to turn an old thinkpad into an hackintosh ... might give it a whirl
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXz3mVKNvlcaALcOW by billyjoebowers@mastodon.online
       2023-11-07T00:57:29Z
       
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       @clive I wonder if it's the newer ones that are the problem?
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXz9FCx5pUp3LMEJk by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T00:58:05Z
       
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       @Quinn9282 Agreed!
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXzEhpG7UyJG1sax6 by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T00:58:55Z
       
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       @billyjoebowers The theory I've heard is that the build quality on (some) MBPs took a dip during the "butterfly keyboard" years, but has since recovered
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXzNKiLPwKQBVl7x2 by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T00:59:25Z
       
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       @homeindorset Nice!!
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXzSsgSXxDezHWTlw by tchauhan@mastodon.mit.edu
       2023-11-07T00:59:26Z
       
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       @clive I have two X220s stashed away, and moved to a T480 - an excellent machine marred by the blind adoption of macos style ports. Then I moved to a mac for work - the worst machine (apart from the ARM processor) I have owned by far. I wish I could rip off its processor and install it on a better machine.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXzgjVrRO90bAAe0m by danielquinn@mastodon.social
       2023-11-07T01:05:18Z
       
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       @clive I have an old X1-series ThinkPad that predates yours by a few years (2012 I think) and it's still going strong.  It's true what you say: they're great little machines.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbXzoE8C08VTaPfoB6 by alpinefolk@sunbeam.city
       2023-11-07T01:01:40Z
       
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       @clive I’ve been fortunate that all of my Macs have lasted a long time with minimal issues. Though I’m never certain if it’s how I use/care for my computers or just a bit of luck
       
 (DIR) Post #AbY3KNsFc2fQvsF4D2 by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T01:47:06Z
       
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       @linuxfiend Yeah power death can be caused by so many different component failures, it's damn hard to diagnose
       
 (DIR) Post #AbY3W4ax7Kc2cAizOy by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T01:47:29Z
       
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       @danielquinn Right?
       
 (DIR) Post #AbY3dpng0Xan2vNRVw by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T01:48:22Z
       
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       @tchauhan eh, yeahI think the new Macs with their own Apple-designed silicon work a lot better
       
 (DIR) Post #AbY41BzneRfMXqBZRY by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T01:47:49Z
       
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       @alpinefolk Being careful certainly doesn't hurt
       
 (DIR) Post #AbYX1VBDDsAmiK1W7M by rogerlipscombe@hachyderm.io
       2023-11-07T07:19:52Z
       
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       @cliveMy Asus S7 is ten years old. I've replaced the battery and the power socket. We're on the third power supply brick, but it just keeps going.Which is impressive, because it's an Ultrabook, and it's *not* built like a tank.Unfortunately, the RAM and SSD are not upgradable.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbYY2oZMiaex5qVjBw by coldfish@sfba.social
       2023-11-07T07:31:15Z
       
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       @clive it's very true about the browser having the large effect.  My kids are all in public school and literally everything is on Google classroom and other online systems.  I don't even think they know how to actually install anything!And games... Talk about leverage. My 12yr old wanted a Minecraft server and I was like, "look, i spun up a nice Linux VM for you .  Here's the IP and ssh creds.  Good luck ".  "But Dad, how do I....","I have no idea.  Look it up and figure it out."
       
 (DIR) Post #AbZ16W4YKRlLYTDQqO by tchauhan@mastodon.mit.edu
       2023-11-07T12:56:00Z
       
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       @clive The processors are truly phenomenal. But that's about all they have going for them :(
       
 (DIR) Post #AbZ3gJrLPiME0hEmpc by nowster@fosstodon.org
       2023-11-07T13:25:41Z
       
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       @clive The last model of ThinkPad with a proper keyboard.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbZE0yUN3yVJLyyoBE by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T15:21:02Z
       
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       @rogerlipscombe oh that’s interesting to hear! I always wondered what the build quality on those netbooks was like
       
 (DIR) Post #AbZE76gvTmKuWxmCVU by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T15:21:25Z
       
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       @nowster It’s pretty amazing
       
 (DIR) Post #AbZE7ncTsBKXfd1l32 by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T15:20:26Z
       
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       @coldfish 😂Yep— I know people in their late 20s early 30s who are utterly baffled by the idea of file directories Not everyone, obviously, but a surprising numberSmart phones just completely broke these folks
       
 (DIR) Post #AbZEF2dkQS8EHa4brM by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T15:21:15Z
       
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       @tchauhan Damn
       
 (DIR) Post #AbZJdgUaPItybRMG7k by tim@phire.place
       2023-11-07T16:23:24Z
       
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       @clive Broke out my Lenovo the other day. Partly I use it less, but it has 100% outlasted THREE much more expensive Apple laptopsDebating trying out a Windows and Linux dual boot on that machine, especially since it's not eligible to upgrade to Windows 11
       
 (DIR) Post #AbZJxydyd7tYgrQWPo by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T16:28:04Z
       
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       @tim yep, you could do a dual boot!I should give that a tryThe one thing I wish I had on this Ubuntu laptop is ScrivenerI do nearly all my journalism using it, keeping the projects in Dropbox so I can zip between my mac and windows machinesBut I can't use Scrivener on Ubuntu -- there's no native app, and when I use Wine it can't sync via dropbox with the other machinesDrat
       
 (DIR) Post #AbZKVGJnwA9T3zrYWm by tim@phire.place
       2023-11-07T16:34:13Z
       
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       @clive Aww that stinksI've recently switched to Ulysses and I find it's better and faster for notes, but I opened up Scrivener and do like how it manages longer projects. Also Ulysses is Mac-only; an even bigger limitation
       
 (DIR) Post #AbZKbshk8CunqyDSlM by tim@phire.place
       2023-11-07T16:35:28Z
       
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       @clive Oh -- one addendum I'd add to your ThinkPad post is that it's 100% the T-series ThinkPads that are built like that and work like that. A lot of the other Lenovo laptops (including ones they try to pass off as ThinkPads) aren't nearly as durable or customizable and they have keyboards just as shitty as every other company’s
       
 (DIR) Post #AbZLrnc6vVuCeTjgC8 by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T16:48:13Z
       
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       @tim Ahh, I didn't know that!Thank you for the warning
       
 (DIR) Post #AbZLzJpLYXNkaTVpWS by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T16:49:49Z
       
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       @tim I've heard great things about Ulysses! But yeah, I need multiplatformI'd shift over to Obsidian, but ...... a key part of what I love about Scrivener is the lightning-fast search; a big deal once I have a database of book notes that numbers in the thousands; and I am not sure Obsidian keeps quite that pace
       
 (DIR) Post #AbZMKSwQrf1Uw5uV4y by danhon@dan.mastohon.com
       2023-11-07T16:54:40Z
       
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       @clive @tim ... not that I think you *want* to complicate things more, but would Scrivener work on Ubuntu if you subbed out Dropbox for Maestral? https://maestral.app/
       
 (DIR) Post #AbZS9grVMqOQeJqnk8 by nowster@fosstodon.org
       2023-11-07T17:59:57Z
       
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       @clive Guess what mine is...
       
 (DIR) Post #AbZXLaC6U1yDDPyY4m by paulrcoen@hachyderm.io
       2023-11-07T17:45:42Z
       
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       @tim @clive I've had X-series (X201, X230) last that long as well (not the X1 - not a fan). Had a key fail in the X230, but the T/X/L 230/420 era machines used the same swappable part - literally a 3-minute job to fix. I think the X230 was the last of the subnotes to support user swappable batteries as well,  the X240 eliminated them, IIRC.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbZXLhvNk5LdBsDJ7g by samweingamgee@fediscience.org
       2023-11-07T18:17:16Z
       
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       @paulrcoenMy X1 carbon gen 7 recently died after 4 years, so I had to fall back to my #x230. Sure, its heavier, and thicker, but it keeps on working and I even was able to upgrade to a 1080p screen. My kingdom for a custom MB that I can use as a drop in replacement in the case when the time comes. #system76 #framework @tim @clive
       
 (DIR) Post #AbZXLmFjeM0Oc9lcP2 by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T18:56:44Z
       
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       @samweingamgee @tim @paulrcoen Nowwwwww you’re making me wonder whether I could upgrade my T4 20 to a high resolution screen!
       
 (DIR) Post #AbZXTrH8rLoeVbHJeS by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T18:57:43Z
       
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       @nowster I’d recognize those hinges anywhere
       
 (DIR) Post #AbZXZgGwgL9u7Wxkxs by deborahh@mstdn.ca
       2023-11-07T17:49:32Z
       
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       @tim @clive I'm a fan of Thinkpads for durability and *touchpoint mouse*Thanks for the tip on T-series 🙂
       
 (DIR) Post #AbZXZh6LbEH8gx0o5I by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T18:57:57Z
       
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       @deborahh @tim 🤘🏻
       
 (DIR) Post #AbZXg5AH2siF3ntXBQ by darkuncle@infosec.exchange
       2023-11-07T16:59:42Z
       
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       @tim @clive oh my. Well, part of it is a philosophical approach to system design and documentation, but more recently it's things like “do you want to deal with systemd or not?”I guess I would summarize the same way I did 20 years ago: BSD is an OS optimized for sysadmins, and Linux is an OS optimized for developers. If you value stability, security by default, consistently excellent documentation, and predictable, scalable performance, BSD is the way to go. (FreeBSD is the OG, OpenBSD is my personal favorite.)
       
 (DIR) Post #AbZXgD1LpwKRQRmWO0 by darkuncle@infosec.exchange
       2023-11-07T17:11:44Z
       
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       @tim @clive (that said, I also find the development process for BSD to be considerably more sane and pleasant than the Linux kernel, but part of that is probably the smaller group involved. The chaos and noise level is *considerably* lower.)
       
 (DIR) Post #AbZXgHG25IRuZ8gIpE by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T18:58:34Z
       
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       @tim @darkuncle Makes sense, yeah
       
 (DIR) Post #AbZXo2v7H478PqbP8q by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T19:02:03Z
       
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       @tim @danhon i’ll give it a crack, cool idea!My understanding is the problem resides in the way that Wine represents file directories … Dropbox is plugged into Ubuntu’s file structure, so when wine comes along it means it’s out of sync with what dropbox is expecting to see and vice versa
       
 (DIR) Post #AbZXwOphgfZSh43Oca by PaulGrahamRaven@assemblag.es
       2023-11-07T17:00:43Z
       
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       @danhon @clive @tim There can be found a legacy AppImage of the last native Linux version of Scrivener, if you're not too fussed about the latest bells and whistles. It's janky in some ways, but does most of the basics, works with Dropbox. I use it myself for some things.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbZXwPuLgssg1lEcV6 by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T19:03:13Z
       
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       @tim @PaulGrahamRaven @danhon yeah, I tried it out some years back on this machine, but found it was a little unreliable and super ugly to look at — shallow of me, probably, but I care about the aesthetics of a writing app that I’m gonna be staring at for 10,000 hours in a row 😂
       
 (DIR) Post #AbZY1yOMuHICQTvS3E by samplereality@post.lurk.org
       2023-11-07T17:04:25Z
       
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       @danhon @clive @tim Scrivener is awesome. One of the few pieces of software I have open on whatever machine I’m using. I hope you can get the Dropbox piece sorted out!
       
 (DIR) Post #AbZY1zIjWiNZFIISuG by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T19:03:27Z
       
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       @danhon @samplereality @tim 🤘🏻
       
 (DIR) Post #AbZZZGMBEdyLeYL7sO by samweingamgee@fediscience.org
       2023-11-07T19:22:57Z
       
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       @cliveQuite possibly. I used https://nitrocaster.me/store/x220-x230-fhd-mod-kit.html which co-opts the displayport lanes from the docking connector I'd imagine you could do similar with the T420.@tim @paulrcoen
       
 (DIR) Post #AbZtrUB8aBJeoh8pAO by paulrcoen@hachyderm.io
       2023-11-07T22:36:03Z
       
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       @samweingamgee @clive @tim Wow, that's kind of tempting.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbZtrV3NKWhXWuW8hs by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-07T23:10:24Z
       
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       @paulrcoen @samweingamgee @tim totally
       
 (DIR) Post #AbZvgWCWvGSdoPgtI8 by coldfish@sfba.social
       2023-11-07T23:30:51Z
       
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       @clive I have a client who just dropped all their files onto google drive... they got bigger and bigger.  soon they had 100 people just putting files in random order on google drive.they'd just type in the file the want and it would appear in the search results, and that was fine with them.  Until they had 10000 "Photo 1.png" results.People got ruined by "smart" everything.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbaLb8QUUG9BR6JYO0 by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-08T04:20:50Z
       
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       @coldfish holy crap yes
       
 (DIR) Post #AbbIWdP9mEW9MUoSFU by puck@mastodon.nz
       2023-11-08T10:05:25Z
       
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       @samweingamgee @paulrcoen @tim @clive well, I have some good news for you then. The X330 is a new motherboard for the X230. https://www.xyte.ch/shop/x330-pricing/
       
 (DIR) Post #AbbIWeSNrih2cnKXuy by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-08T15:21:27Z
       
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       @puck @samweingamgee @paulrcoen @tim 🤘🏻
       
 (DIR) Post #AbbLUNMujBeOuTNWMK by crenquis@mstdn.io
       2023-11-08T15:54:38Z
       
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       @clive Bonus... I can probably use the dead one as a footing to shore up any suspect supports under the house  ;)
       
 (DIR) Post #AbbNPsd3H7rEK2uWdk by clive@saturation.social
       2023-11-08T16:16:19Z
       
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       @crenquis lol