Post AbOm4SeMdmWHT5veTo by kgoldsholl@social.vivaldi.net
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(DIR) Post #AbOldmLjI4pskKUPnk by dankennedy_nu@journa.host
2023-10-07T12:36:20Z
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New at Media Nation: X/Twitter may be terrible, but it's still the go-to place for certain types of conversations. https://dankennedy.net/2023/10/07/x-twitter-may-be-terrible-but-its-still-the-go-to-place-for-certain-types-of-conversations/
(DIR) Post #AbOldnGRtCCpaF1iD2 by dangillmor@mastodon.social
2023-10-08T04:48:33Z
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@dankennedy_nu Disappointed...
(DIR) Post #AbOldo1b3tv5wT5MhM by dankennedy_nu@journa.host
2023-10-08T11:03:01Z
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@dangillmor Glad you’ve been able to make it work for you. I can’t dictate to my communities where they should be.
(DIR) Post #AbOldoeEkEpPsJADvU by melaniesill@mastodon.social
2023-10-08T11:18:33Z
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@dankennedy_nu @dangillmor I know that journalists continue to talk to each other there, and to other political communities and sources. It's raised all kinds of questions and recognition for me about where many journalists connect and with whom. (Twitter has never been where local news, for instance, finds much audience - vs. other platforms, especially Facebook and Instagram) But I'm also disappointed by the acceptance of Musk's terms.
(DIR) Post #AbOldpJ0IfRDukEmTA by dankennedy_nu@journa.host
2023-10-08T11:26:44Z
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@melaniesill @dangillmor Local news outlets have generally embraced Facebook, only to be screwed over by Zuckerberg’s ever-shifting strategies. But organizations involved in the future of local news remain firmly planted on X/Twitter. Our @whatworks news feed is on Mastodon, but I crosspost to @whatworks_nu@twitter.com. Otherwise, no one would ever see it.
(DIR) Post #AbOm4SeMdmWHT5veTo by kgoldsholl@social.vivaldi.net
2023-10-07T12:58:39Z
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@dankennedy_nu is it "twitter-shaming" or just reinforcing the case for leaving? To get people to break a habit that isn't totally bad for themself (especially the writers who attract most of the consumers), it isn't surprising the message has to be constantly repeated.
(DIR) Post #AbOm4U8t5mWu63DXhA by dankennedy_nu@journa.host
2023-10-07T13:01:15Z
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@kgoldsholl It's crap. Very few of the tech platforms have clean hands. Mastodon is probably the only one, but it only meets some of my professional and academic needs.
(DIR) Post #AbOmGN59AURxfs8Sga by cs@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-10-07T13:17:10Z
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@dankennedy_nu one of the things about Twitter is that is simply has a large user base, even after the exodus. You cannot ignore that. Once you acknowledge that, you have to decide whether it’s something you want to still engage in or not. And if you do, you have to deal with the consequences of being on that platform. Some of us have decided that it wasn’t worth it. you certainly sacrifice certain types of conversation, though.
(DIR) Post #AbOmOc7d8L40dYEA08 by jeffjarvis@mastodon.social
2023-10-08T11:12:43Z
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@dankennedy_nu @dangillmor In the Black Twitter Summit to which I played host in February, I saw that it might be easy for an individual to move but not for a community.
(DIR) Post #AbOmOkX5rYBYiqCbnk by Cincyblog@mastodon.social
2023-10-08T13:29:54Z
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@jeffjarvis @dankennedy_nu @dangillmor those users with large lists of followers can not replace that list in another platform, unless they are already publicly well known. People who don’t have that real world notoriety will hang on and at best straddle the fence of leaving Twitter.
(DIR) Post #AbOmRC9G9xR6wwDikq by dankennedy_nu@journa.host
2023-10-08T13:31:17Z
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@Cincyblog @jeffjarvis @dangillmor I don't even care about size. It's the specific communities I need to engage with.
(DIR) Post #AbOmRCxx7TzBU9wClk by jeffjarvis@mastodon.social
2023-10-08T14:08:42Z
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@dankennedy_nu @Cincyblog @dangillmor Exactly. It's one matter for a white man with a big following buiilt from years in media (the Journal) or a large platform (Bloomberg) to glibly move on and shame others for not doing so, it is another for communities too long not heard or represented in mass media to be told to leave behind the venue they have finally established on their own. I wish the Twitter shamers would first look in the privilege mirror.
(DIR) Post #AbOmSu16XjtdILDhlA by kgoldsholl@social.vivaldi.net
2023-10-08T16:09:49Z
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@jeffjarvis @dankennedy_nu @Cincyblog @dangillmor sounds like you're privilege shaming people who are working to convince people to stop supporting the platform/owner who is an opponent of most of those "communities" whom you think should not be encouraged to leave the hellsite.
(DIR) Post #AbOmSupnVGRhpYwBm4 by jeffjarvis@mastodon.social
2023-10-08T19:14:11Z
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@kgoldsholl @dankennedy_nu @Cincyblog @dangillmor Oh, so Twitter-shaming is ok but privilege-shaming is not. I need a scorecard.
(DIR) Post #AbOmSvbIeeRYCtA7oe by kgoldsholl@social.vivaldi.net
2023-10-08T19:16:11Z
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@jeffjarvis @dankennedy_nu @Cincyblog @dangillmor didn't say that, was wondering why you thought some shaming os okay.
(DIR) Post #AbOmSwPHeoQShuY2j2 by jeffjarvis@mastodon.social
2023-10-08T19:42:22Z
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@kgoldsholl @dankennedy_nu @dangillmor Telling people they must do something because it is evil not to I would call shaming. Suggestin they check their presumptions and experience against that of others in different circumstances, I would not. And I did not say I am opposed to encouraging people to move. But at a Black Twitter Summit to which I played host this year, I heard how Black Twitters users have been treated here. There are reasons people chose not to move on. Their own reasons.