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(DIR) Post #AbIQyDtoEnjzAOlNL6 by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-10-30T12:56:49Z
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If on a major update your desktop (GNOME, Plasma, Cinnamon, i3, etc) opened a popup asking you to donate, it only appeared once and if you don't ever want to see it there was an option to fully disable it, would you be opposed to this? #Linux #OpenSource #FOSS
(DIR) Post #AbIRTe9QgRhdYx3M8W by popey@ubuntu.social
2023-10-30T13:02:06Z
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@BrodieOnLinux be interesting to hear the reasons why people would be opposed to this.
(DIR) Post #AbIRYE4d4Abw8IzX5E by Nuuskis@fosstodon.org
2023-10-30T13:02:32Z
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@BrodieOnLinux included in the Welcome screen, then yes. Separated/invidiual pop up, then absolutely not.
(DIR) Post #AbIRhpxTa71QEiEEgC by f00fc7c8@0w0.is
2023-10-30T12:59:45.560929Z
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@BrodieOnLinux voted “yes” but actually meant to say “no”I think this would be good to put into an onboarding flow like the GNOME Tour
(DIR) Post #AbIRhzRwIDjlfnYBua by f00fc7c8@0w0.is
2023-10-30T13:03:15.403017Z
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@BrodieOnLinux as long as it’s not a regular or intrusive nag, I think it’s perfectly acceptable to say “hey, free software relies on donations”.another good idea would be an app which looks at what software you have installed and directs you to places where you can support its development, either through code, docs/media, or financially
(DIR) Post #AbIRi18s05fivEdzSy by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-10-30T13:05:11Z
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@f00fc7c8 I'd expect once every couple of months
(DIR) Post #AbIRoeh7rGHZKUpeQC by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-10-30T13:06:26Z
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@Nuuskis If it has a welcome screen that's obviously the most logical place, I'm not focused on the specific implementation because that's a matter for the individual desktops
(DIR) Post #AbIRvMGEnBxEBZS3Ga by aes__@mastodon.social
2023-10-30T13:05:04Z
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@BrodieOnLinux I imagine distros would just set that to 'off' by defaultwhen running a whole FOSS system and environment, why does your DE get to ask and not every package it depends on?
(DIR) Post #AbIRxRxyYCaeSZuIqm by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-10-30T13:08:16Z
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@popey When I asked this over on Youtube a lot of people didn't like the idea of a forced popup, so I'd say a good few percent are people who can't read. A few people thought this was the start of every single project opening a donation popup constanstly, but there's always going to be a few people completely opposed to any sort of monetary support.
(DIR) Post #AbISM7URom4OC3rKF6 by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-10-30T13:12:35Z
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@aes__ They do get to ask but they're not asking
(DIR) Post #AbISiat5CSTJjr6AXQ by onepict@chaos.social
2023-10-30T13:13:17Z
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@BrodieOnLinux @popey I wonder if it's also that people assume the larger projects have funding?Plus it's not a normalised thing to ask for donations as there's an assumption that the money will come from somewhere.We all need to talk about project sustainability more and developers also need to be more comfortable with the idea of fundraising for sustainability. Both being the fundraiser and being the person asked.Some of us are not comfortable with this idea, we need to get comfortable.
(DIR) Post #AbISnItBXq3TMjONEm by popey@ubuntu.social
2023-10-30T13:13:31Z
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@BrodieOnLinux there are a ton of people (the majority) who don’t contribute to FOSS in any meaningful way whatsoever. Not just financially but via translations, documentation, design, let alone code or code review.
(DIR) Post #AbIT2V5qS5txYmYmki by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-10-30T13:20:02Z
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@TheEvilSkeleton That's part of why I specifically added the "an option to fully disable it" part
(DIR) Post #AbIT6s4owT6c05AIHQ by aes__@mastodon.social
2023-10-30T13:16:47Z
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@BrodieOnLinux you're running hundreds of packages at this moment, imagine all spawning a dialog asking for a donation 😄
(DIR) Post #AbITNzQ6tPYxhMHmGe by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-10-30T13:24:02Z
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@aes__ There's certain packages where it's really hard to do tasteful donation solicitation, but I don't take issue with how Thunderbird has done it for example
(DIR) Post #AbITW4uENeLH1rEPGy by karolherbst@chaos.social
2023-10-30T13:19:35Z
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@TheEvilSkeleton @BrodieOnLinux Maybe a good compromise could be to be part of the Initial setup dialogs on first boot. Maybe even with a "we'll remind you in a day/week after you get familiar" with an option to disable that.Or maybe without a later reminder. But I think making it part of the post install thing could be good enough. "And finally, thanks for choosing Fedora with Gnome, here a few links in case you want to donate"
(DIR) Post #AbITWC9NRjcJUrN6Lw by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-10-30T13:25:15Z
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@karolherbst @TheEvilSkeleton I should add I don't necessarily mean a whole new popup, if the desktop already has a welcome screen shown on update that's the most logical place to add something like this.
(DIR) Post #AbITgOkRSkmxSpZcrw by RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co
2023-10-30T13:27:48.537650Z
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@BrodieOnLinux @f00fc7c8 if it's reoccurring I should have an option to disable it in config
(DIR) Post #AbITupRb0KVUJYdiFc by karolherbst@chaos.social
2023-10-30T13:22:35Z
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@BrodieOnLinux @TheEvilSkeleton right.. I understood it as a "the popup has an option so you never see it again"
(DIR) Post #AbIUPCsISDi7fec7nM by Conan_Kudo@fosstodon.org
2023-10-30T13:26:36Z
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@BrodieOnLinux KDE Plasma already does this every time you upgrade to a new feature version with Plasma Welcome, which I think is a tasteful way to do it.
(DIR) Post #AbIUbVJxhIbiM7Pyi0 by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-10-30T13:37:44Z
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@Conan_Kudo That was I unaware of, well Plasma already does the thing I'm suggesting then
(DIR) Post #AbIUgAe9zVTzgS5goa by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-10-30T13:38:38Z
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@karolherbst @TheEvilSkeleton I'm confused why you're confused, I think we're saying the same thing but talking past each other lol
(DIR) Post #AbIUzGVwOsQ7NpLqNs by pasties@infosec.exchange
2023-10-30T13:30:51Z
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@BrodieOnLinux @f00fc7c8 This would probably be enough for me to stop using the software. I think generally these kinds of pop-ups only belong as part of a first time setup wizard or otherwise immediately post-install. No an update doesn't count for this context.Unexpected and unknown pop-ups, especially recurring ones, will always inspire ill-will which is not going to encourage donations. You're making the assumption that a user can stop and read what you're presenting them at the moment they're actively trying to accomplish a task.I know open source funding is hard but recurring pop-ups is not the way. It won't meaningfully move your funding needle, you'll get issues around them, have to continuously justify your position, maintain them, fight forks trying to remove pop-ups, and ultimately just make the experience for your users worse.
(DIR) Post #AbIVe962sqxWFbjST2 by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-10-30T13:49:21Z
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@pasties @f00fc7c8 Tell that to Thunderbird
(DIR) Post #AbIVgayADwyDHBDJHk by simon_brooke@mastodon.scot
2023-10-30T13:30:20Z
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@adora @BrodieOnLinux generalising here, I don't think Linux users as a whole *spend* less money than Microsoft or Apple users. I think they just prioritise different things; and I'd agree that control (as well as privacy, and certain freedoms) is one of the things we prioritise.
(DIR) Post #AbIVgbph0vmvxCG3ii by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-10-30T13:49:45Z
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@simon_brooke @adora I think a lot of people don't know how or where to spend money
(DIR) Post #AbIW8ROlOzo3hUvvNI by karolherbst@chaos.social
2023-10-30T13:40:44Z
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@BrodieOnLinux @TheEvilSkeleton it happens 🙃 But yeah, I think it would have been helpful to have your additional input from your replies in the original post.Something from that one specifically: https://linuxrocks.online/@BrodieOnLinux/111324188890650843but yeah... language hard
(DIR) Post #AbIWQ8jbX5IN1o7Yf2 by cymaphore@i.cymaphore.net
2023-10-30T13:42:24Z
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@BrodieOnLinux Me personally: Yes. I donate code and fixes for decades.But I understand the reasoning behind it. If they put it into some end user distro it might be a different story.But would neither get nor want any of the money that is donated. I participate out of passion.No one needs to push me to donate, just like no one needs to push me to provide a patch for something.But I'm not representative I guess.
(DIR) Post #AbIWZ9TIA7OXv5mvLM by thibaultmol@en.osm.town
2023-10-30T13:43:26Z
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@BrodieOnLinux @karolherbst @TheEvilSkeleton I think it's a small contradiction in your original post.You say "it only appeared once", so it will never show up again... so why would you need "an option to fully disable it" if it only appeared once
(DIR) Post #AbIWcpryz0cQHh5rU0 by Aaron@troet.cafe
2023-10-30T13:43:54Z
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@BrodieOnLinux Foss software relies on donations and I feel it’s fair to ask for them here and there. People put hundreds of hours into code, anyone can grab and use for free. They deserve financial support.
(DIR) Post #AbIXIVjUF5BrzczYzQ by melroy@mastodon.melroy.org
2023-10-30T13:51:04Z
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@BrodieOnLinux Your question is confusing with double negative. I voted "yes", so I'm again those kind of pop-ups .
(DIR) Post #AbIY2kdx8XHjYhS7u4 by pasties@infosec.exchange
2023-10-30T13:58:01Z
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@BrodieOnLinux @f00fc7c8 I specifically don't use Thunderbird but sounds like they have aggressive regular pop-ups? From the tone I'd also assume it's a personal frustration of yours...
(DIR) Post #AbIYcrAyKHTgFC765A by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-10-30T14:22:52Z
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@pasties @f00fc7c8 I think Thunderbirds solution is great, when you open it there is a donation banner at the bottom that is shown until you click an email then it isn't shown again until you next open the program
(DIR) Post #AbIYzRIUhzLmdwOsAy by ohyran@social.piewpiew.se
2023-10-30T14:06:09Z
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@BrodieOnLinux personally, a huge and emphatic no from me. BUT thats just for me personally. I would accept it better during installation or introduction tour and not as a pop-up.
(DIR) Post #AbIYzVtVcJKqttkUQS by ohyran@social.piewpiew.se
2023-10-30T14:08:29Z
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@BrodieOnLinux to expand - I dislike the question... that makes me sound like a psycho, but there is something that frustrate me with popups in comparison with more actionable and sort of acceptable ways (I don't know if that means socially acceptable or just me being weird).But its kinda like the difference getting a thing in your mailbox about donating to greenpeace and someone putting up a post-it on my kitchen window saying the same thing.
(DIR) Post #AbIZ84mnm2TtQrh8C0 by nitrogenez@social.linux.pizza
2023-10-30T14:07:20Z
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@BrodieOnLinux got no problem with that. can't even see why this could be a problem.
(DIR) Post #AbIZFRyzvYmJP1up9M by newt@stereophonic.space
2023-10-30T14:29:49.016050Z
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@BrodieOnLinux donate to what cause exactly? It's not that these desktops rely on paid developers.
(DIR) Post #AbIaEk3fL2PD7vKCzw by ohyran@social.piewpiew.se
2023-10-30T14:18:05Z
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@BrodieOnLinux @karolherbst @TheEvilSkeleton Oh then its an entirely different matter. Sry didn't see this addendum - in which case I am not against it. GNOME and Plasma already have this set as an available thing.,
(DIR) Post #AbIbiHiJO1u7rMzIjw by pasties@infosec.exchange
2023-10-30T14:33:00Z
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@BrodieOnLinux @f00fc7c8 Yeah that sounds pretty reasonable and well thought through. It's also an explicit example of not doing a pop-up.
(DIR) Post #AbIcBsOE6ZAA0ShfhA by pankajpatro703@fosstodon.org
2023-10-30T14:37:42Z
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@BrodieOnLinux as long as it can also be disabled via changing the config file.
(DIR) Post #AbIjNx2BMVppZ665aa by TheStroyer@mastodon.social
2023-10-30T15:45:44Z
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@BrodieOnLinux I'm not opposed to donation requests, but they have to be done in a way that's actually effective, otherwise it's not worth the annoyance.An example of a method that does not seem effective is the messages in Libre office after every update. You learn to click them away as soon as possible. Or worse, you're too lazy to click them away, leaving you with reduced screen space and a worse experience
(DIR) Post #AbIkGIA91V0MjOjWEa by skyflare@fosstodon.org
2023-10-30T15:55:44Z
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@BrodieOnLinux I voted but this only under the assumption that disabling them would be smooth, easy and simple (like just a "don't show me this again" button or a "remove this line from the default config ask_for_donations=allow" disclaimer for stuff like i3)
(DIR) Post #AbIoKB6vaEmPpqKxu4 by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-10-30T17:17:41Z
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@newt To pay the developers for their time
(DIR) Post #AbIou7rP95nOBBDXfc by newt@stereophonic.space
2023-10-30T17:25:12.294495Z
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@BrodieOnLinux but they don't. If you take GNOME, for one, almost all of its top developers are employed by Red Hat. Do you think they need more money?
(DIR) Post #AbJ8in9jmWV5rcfJlQ by BWPanda@fosstodon.org
2023-10-30T19:34:34Z
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@BrodieOnLinux I would be opposed to this.I keep hearing how #Windows is showing more and more ads to users, and that's an #OperatingSystem that you're effectively already paying for.I know you said it'd be a one-time popup, but it sets a precedent that I'm not comfortable with. What if down the track they want to ask for contributors, or advertise one of their paid services/features...?I see this opening a floodgate of sorts, and I don't like where it could go.#Linux #advertising #foss
(DIR) Post #AbJGMuBtkFDuwckbgG by KasTasMykolas@river.group.lt
2023-10-30T21:17:16Z
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@BrodieOnLinux mhm. Ubuntu machine does something similar while promoting their paid features every single f***ing time I ssh to it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
(DIR) Post #AbJH0mNODdEcI78gnA by fennek@cyberplace.social
2023-10-30T21:24:35Z
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@BrodieOnLinux I am currently (for two to three weeks now) trying to establish #Linux instead of #Windows as my daily driver.One of the main reasons for me to do that is things I did not ask for popping up on my computer.
(DIR) Post #AbJKc5frjRTEihGRG4 by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-10-30T23:20:02Z
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@newt Just because they're employed by Red Hat doesn't mean they're all paid to work on GNOME, also there are other devs who are not employed at all by a company working heavily in FOSS
(DIR) Post #AbJM2Fd1Rezv4jyLhI by OpenComputeDesign@linuxrocks.online
2023-10-30T23:36:09Z
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@BrodieOnLinux Couldn't be more annoying than update popups, so I see no problem with it. Besides, I always do try to donate when I visit their websites and they're asking for donations. (well, when I have money to spare, at least)
(DIR) Post #AbJPGBwoE8JNZmZBXE by skyeye@fosstodon.org
2023-10-30T22:09:49Z
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@TheEvilSkeletonI hadn't thought about it that way. It doesn't seem that annoying in a vacuum. But I don't want to be on guard for blocking new pop ups in my os. So its a bad mindset to think "it's just one pop up".@BrodieOnLinux
(DIR) Post #AbJPGCelahTPm78I3E by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-10-31T00:12:30Z
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@skyeye @TheEvilSkeleton Many systems already have a welcome prompt on major upgrades, too many people are hung up on the word popup
(DIR) Post #AbJb0UCJnwQyzj69ei by skyeye@fosstodon.org
2023-10-31T02:10:28Z
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@BrodieOnLinuxI would say specifically I don't want any kind of welcome screen or even a desktop notification that's not necessary. I think a more straightforward thing to do would be for package managers to have a button that just says "click here for donation links to the packages you use" and you'd see it every time you upgrade. Or display them automatically in the upgrade screen
(DIR) Post #AbJb0Vx9HJUKRG14Hw by skyeye@fosstodon.org
2023-10-31T02:15:11Z
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@BrodieOnLinuxAt my desk job I hate it when my inbox gets full of irrelevant emails or spam. I don't even like seeing the outlook taskbar icon with an email on it unless it's relevant. I made a complicated series of filters to deal with it. But I don't want any random distractions to read or think about when I'm trying to get work done. So I wouldn't want my linux software to throw an occasional notification about donating if I was working in it
(DIR) Post #AbJblnZnZYxAhtdoxM by meowcatheorange@moth.zone
2023-10-31T02:16:20.876110Z
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@BrodieOnLinux do not show unsolicited popups ever please, i would recommend putting it somewhere like the welcome setup or maybe in the about tab of Settings
(DIR) Post #AbJbloQyNrUJMoWHq4 by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-10-31T02:32:38Z
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@meowcatheorange What do you think about welcome screens when you upgrade
(DIR) Post #AbJoMFzkab10ijvnLU by meowcatheorange@moth.zone
2023-10-31T03:55:14.529740Z
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@BrodieOnLinux Yes also put it there
(DIR) Post #AbJoMGktlIjH4xzRpo by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-10-31T04:53:52Z
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@meowcatheorange So you're ok with unsolicited popups
(DIR) Post #AbJqjjXZ6dfsvH4Ov2 by meowcatheorange@moth.zone
2023-10-31T04:56:26.234551Z
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@BrodieOnLinux 1. loaded question2. technically the popup would have context, if you had already updated your system or DE, you would probably expect a popup of some sort like the several you've had to endure before and during the update
(DIR) Post #AbJqjkFsRt7V8hnmzI by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-10-31T05:20:37Z
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@meowcatheorange You said never, here's a case where you're ok with it. So depending on the context they're ok
(DIR) Post #AbJrMhvt18frEL1wFk by kirby@lab.nyanide.com
2023-10-31T05:27:55.467752Z
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@BrodieOnLinux Vista had a screen on boot that would pop up once and you could just disable it, I wouldn't mind too muchWould just feel very annoyed that they're asking for money, no one likes that
(DIR) Post #AbJw1p3RqIRb0ZQa9Y by newt@stereophonic.space
2023-10-31T06:19:45.685940Z
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@BrodieOnLinux yes, it does. They are paid to work on GNOME.Anyway, even huge projects with rather big bank accounts like Debian do not pay their developers, instead relying on volunteers. It's not in their culture.https://www.theregister.com/2020/09/10/debian_project_address/
(DIR) Post #AbJwkOmgMVLyYyqDlA by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-10-31T06:27:58Z
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@newt It literally doesn't mean that, many of them are, not all of them and many others aren't employed by Red Hat full stop.
(DIR) Post #AbJxhMa0CZXeoN1iZk by newt@stereophonic.space
2023-10-31T06:38:21.650990Z
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@BrodieOnLinux 84% of code in GTK4 was submitted by Red Hat employees (link: https://blog.gtk.org/2020/12/17/who-wrote-gtk4/ ). In GNOME itself, the number is similar. Yes, they do this for money already.In KDE, the picture is a bit different, but they too are heavily sponsored by several companies.
(DIR) Post #AbJyU3UNy7sznCcMSm by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-10-31T06:47:20Z
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@newt Why are you opposed to more people getting paid to work full time on the project?
(DIR) Post #AbJyfOglUOUyjAofrM by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-10-31T06:49:11Z
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@newt Why are you opposed to more people getting paid to work full time on the project? Also you're very confused, I'm not saying Red Hat doesn't employee a lot of GNOME devs to work on GNOME, I'm saying just because you're employed by Red Hat and work on GNOME does not mean you're employed by Red Hat to work on GNOME
(DIR) Post #AbK0BhH41Z7paelD4C by rdfhrn@hessen.social
2023-10-31T07:06:28Z
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@BrodieOnLinux i'd prefer the way thunderbird asks, but a popup would not oppose me
(DIR) Post #AbK26LaZQFXEnKSejw by newt@stereophonic.space
2023-10-31T07:27:30.327180Z
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@BrodieOnLinux >Why are you opposed to more people getting paid to work full time on the project?I'm not. I'm opposed to begging for donations, because those are always a drop in a bucket, while also being incredibly annoying. Donations don't provide a consistent enough flow of money to fund development anyway, so the endeavour is futile.>Also you're very confused, I'm not saying Red Hat doesn't employee a lot of GNOME devs to work on GNOME, I'm saying just because you're employed by Red Hat and work on GNOME does not mean you're employed by Red Hat to work on GNOMENo, I'm not. I'm saying that Red Hat employs developers to work on GNOME. This is a fact. They aren't volunteers.
(DIR) Post #AbK2WEYcBidMW2tG1Q by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-10-31T07:32:39Z
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@newt Thunderbird is 99% funded by donations and just made 7 mil last year triple what they normal bring in because they actually asked people for donations this is on top of it growing slowly each each year, so you're just wrongYes Red Hat employs many of the GNOME devs to work on GNOME, but not every single Red Hat employee who works on GNOME is being paid to do that, many have other commitments and also work on GNOME as a volunteer
(DIR) Post #AbK2ZhhwGQqDnDuEu8 by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-10-31T07:33:01Z
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@newt Thunderbird is 99% funded by donations and just made 7 mil last year triple what they normal bring in because they actually asked people for donations this is on top of it growing slowly each year, so you're just wrongYes Red Hat employs many of the GNOME devs to work on GNOME, but not every single Red Hat employee who works on GNOME is being paid to do that, many have other commitments and also work on GNOME as a volunteer
(DIR) Post #AbK3LQyDnR3HmbHWb2 by newt@stereophonic.space
2023-10-31T07:41:14.343520Z
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@BrodieOnLinux >Thunderbird is 99% funded by donations and just made 7 mil last year triple what they normal bring in because they actually asked people for donations this is on top of it growing slowly each year, so you're just wrongSure, because they were kicked out from Mozilla (because Mozilla is Google's bitch) and have no other choice than to beg. Will this cash flow last another year? How about 5 years? Duh...Also, I find it funny that building and maintaining a not-so-stellar mail client is a major achievement smh.>Yes Red Hat employs many of the GNOME devs to work on GNOME, but not every single Red Hat employee who works on GNOME is being paid to do that, many have other commitments and also work on GNOME as a volunteerWhat does this even mean? Last I checked, between GNOME 43 and GNOME 44 there were 7 dudes who made over 10 commits each for that release cycle. 5 of them were employed by Red Hat full time to work on GNOME. One was from Elementary and one was from some open source consultancy.
(DIR) Post #AbK3cKx3QYp02SnOHA by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-10-31T07:44:56Z
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@newt As long as they keep making a incredible email client I don't see how it wouldn't be sustainable.It means that you can do things that you weren't employed to do.
(DIR) Post #AbK3k4gfmUvRuep5No by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-10-31T07:46:20Z
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@newt As long as they keep making a incredible email client I don't see how it wouldn't be sustainable. Free software isn't monetarily somebody needs to pay for it and the users seems very happy to do soIt means that you can do things that you weren't employed to do.
(DIR) Post #AbK467i1E9FXegxxlg by newt@stereophonic.space
2023-10-31T07:49:28.676500Z
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@BrodieOnLinux >As long as they keep making a incredible email client I don't see how it wouldn't be sustainable.If you consider that incredible, then ok.>It means that you can do things that you weren't employed to do.S-s-s-s-sure? Officially an unpaid KDE dev here btw.But I re-iterate again, most work on GNOME is done for money provided by Red Hat. As in, the majority of code was written in work hours by someone who was paid to do so. GNOME is a corporate desktop environment for Red Hat distros first and foremost, and seeing it beg for donations would be comically funny.
(DIR) Post #AbK4kqI6tJptVXGQRU by BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online
2023-10-31T07:57:36Z
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@newt Well it is and the 7 mil and 300,000 donators is a good indicator of that.
(DIR) Post #AbLwNJDLIGSowaDlwW by codrusofathens@linuxrocks.online
2023-11-01T05:33:13Z
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@BrodieOnLinux Plasma does this already in the welcome page. Which continues to pop up until you tell it otherwise. I'm cool with it!
(DIR) Post #AbOfUVYTlM9cKPeJG4 by kta@hostux.social
2023-11-02T13:07:55Z
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@BrodieOnLinux -- voted yes on this. Not that I don't think FOSS developers shouldn't have the opportunity to get paid. But because I think that having direct donate links in software is a can of worms. Each app in gnome may have dozens of contributors. Who gets paid? Will each app have it's own account or Bitcoin wallet address? Who manages that? What about apps that are boring, but critically important (files, calculator....)? Etc.