Post AbFSSaheAbJWfhgxou by defanor@emacs.ch
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 (DIR) Post #AbEo80A6K4nnNpd28m by louis@emacs.ch
       2023-10-28T17:43:59Z
       
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       Hundreds of people from the whole world flying in to New York to vote on a "non-binding UN resolution" that is what? Exactly: non-binding, thus has zero effect.The only effect this UN resolution vote had is that the world is now even more devided and countries and their people are blamed for being on the "wrong side".Same goes for the UN Security Council, which is either blocked by the US or Russia, like all the time. We have see this for decades.Trust in global institutions is built on deeds, not words. Right now, and on this particular point I agree with the Israeli delegate: the UN has "lost its legitimacy to exist". If we haven't learned that already after Russia/Ukraine, now is the time to recognize their inability to prevent or stop wars, yesterday, today and tomorrow.#palestine #israel #unsc #unga #un
       
 (DIR) Post #AbEtgVlVpOs714P0KG by defanor@emacs.ch
       2023-10-28T18:46:50Z
       
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       @louis The League of Nations was similarly criticized, but to be fair, world peace does seem like a non-trivial goal. Meantime, UN does other useful business (humanitarian, court), likely at least discourages some wars, and those non-binding resolutions serve as statements to be recorded. It is far from ideal, but there does not seem to be anything better so far.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbF6hrBmxWhB9efH9s by louis@emacs.ch
       2023-10-28T19:33:20Z
       
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       @defanor I appreciate your response. Yesterday, I watched the live broadcast of the vote and the subsequent speeches of the country representatives and found it partly shameful how they beat around the bush. The fact that Hamas, a terrorist organisation with a stranglehold on the Palestinian people, is not even mentioned in the resolution shows that national politics is more important than humanitarian aid for countries in war situations.Unfortunately - so it seems - the UN is also not very successful in providing humanitarian assistance in the current conflict, nor did its "court" had any effect in many recent conflicts. If anything, the UN is discouraging the international community from joining forces and taking its own initiative together. I credit the fact that the Arab–Israeli conflict still exists to decades of UN inaction. Oh, I forgot, it was the UN that facilitated the expropriation of Palestine in the first place (I explicitly do not say that it is responsible for it - that is a different story). Sadly, so it seems, nowadays a Tweet on X has more impact than a non-binding UN resolution.If the achievement of democracy as a form of society has taught us anything, it is this: a separation of powers is unavoidable at the international level. As long as states can use violence at their own discretion and cross the fine line from justified self-defence to uncontrolled revenge (also re: Russia), the world community lacks the possibility to enforce peace as a universal good.As long as UN resolutions are "non-binding", there will be terror and border violations in the world and we can all just watch and wait until the next country sends its tanks or rockets across the borders.
       
 (DIR) Post #AbFSSaheAbJWfhgxou by defanor@emacs.ch
       2023-10-28T20:51:19Z
       
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       @louis I hear that the UN court (ICJ) is the only available international one to Russian citizens now, since the government expelled ECHR; I have not heard of it affecting conflicts, but it helps individuals as a last resort sometimes. Likewise with humanitarian aid: I believe there are cases in which it does not help, but it seems to provide aid in others (<https://crisisrelief.un.org/crises>).As for the military conflicts, they do establish sanctions, too (<https://www.un.org/securitycouncil/sanctions/information>). But even if vetoes were not there, and the UN automatically issued binding resolutions to cease conflicts whenever those happened, surely the members engaging in those conflicts would simply ignore those or quit, similarly to ignoring and quitting ECHR when it becomes inconvenient.