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(DIR) Post #AbDIYpUugn30R69Ux6 by shecky2000@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-28T01:29:44Z
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There is hope for The Left.The Nation, a pub I'd call 'leftist', is blasting its readers with multiple, conflicting opinions. Big differences.I like this. The Right of today was full-ass Chamber of Commerce a decade ago. Fortunately, we learned to distrust our leaders and it was painful.The Left has had some good ideas in the past. Stopping their goosestep towards bad for the normal person can be solved when they're exposed to multiple points of view.I say, good for The Nation.
(DIR) Post #AbDMZTlbMwJX94WVF2 by Arcalian@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-28T02:14:40Z
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@shecky2000 the left has been corrupt to it's core for a very very long time. For the left to have hope, the entire structure has to be dismantled, including but not limited to the Democratic Party, and start over from scratch. And even then, the odds are very long against it.
(DIR) Post #AbEGlEGGRFVXxq2qEy by shecky2000@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-28T12:44:16Z
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@Arcalian Maybe, but I'd argue that they've only been given one 'correct' opinion for everything. When the inconsistency becomes obvious, that's a good thing that starts the ball rolling.
(DIR) Post #AbEcq1iwg4kRWH9Yf2 by Arcalian@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-28T16:51:39Z
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@shecky2000 ball rolling, good. but to stretch the metaphor, if the ball doesn't knock down all ten pins of the democrat party, then they'll just start again.The Dems survived the Civil WarThe Dems survived Carter.They'll probably survive this too.To everyone's detriment, including that of their own voters.
(DIR) Post #AbEmPbKz9sgdhCz4iG by shecky2000@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-28T18:38:56Z
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@Arcalian Yes but the way they get so many people interested is by pushing grievances for each little group. When you get into, for example, Israel, if you pander to one you piss off the other.What I'm saying is this stuff is forcing more than a singular argument into their little heads. Also, causing some to question if the Dems are really their "team". So less Dems in lockstep.
(DIR) Post #AbF0hd9iXGUjuECkts by Arcalian@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-28T21:19:04Z
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@shecky2000 and that is good! But only as a first step. Need to not only break up the lockstep, but the whole damn march.
(DIR) Post #AbFLliAHx34HdaG7iS by shecky2000@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-29T01:15:06Z
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@Arcalian Little by little my friend.
(DIR) Post #AbFMN2vnho0ml2Hk2K by Arcalian@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-29T01:21:51Z
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@shecky2000 if they steal it from Trump again, little by little won't be enough
(DIR) Post #AbFMpOLPgZThHGmVOK by shecky2000@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-29T01:26:58Z
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@Arcalian IMO, it all doesn't come down to one event or thing. Even if it's another stolen election.
(DIR) Post #AbFPynTntzi7haslxA by Arcalian@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-29T02:02:17Z
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@shecky2000 we don't have unlimited time, sadly. That's the issue. The long game only works when you have long time.
(DIR) Post #AbFQD6To3bkigShnbU by shecky2000@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-29T02:04:52Z
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@Arcalian I think the frog knows it's being boiled. Because of that, the boiling has to happen faster to achieve the goal.That makes more frogs realize they're being boiled.I think the frog side has more time. That's my filter anyway.
(DIR) Post #AbFQHrxRTdk55nq8Fk by Arcalian@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-29T02:05:44Z
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@shecky2000 you're optimistic. I'm realistic. Learned the hard way.
(DIR) Post #AbFQZFgMWUbnb08iIK by shecky2000@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-29T02:08:52Z
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@Arcalian We just are keeping score in a different way.You'll grant me that there's a possibility that we are the ones with more time in this situation. What deadlines to "we" have? I think "they" have lots.
(DIR) Post #AbFQnXTDBWXEomninw by Arcalian@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-29T02:11:27Z
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@shecky2000 our time is almost up, unless Trump can add more to the clock.The time for hopium is OVER. 2020 and 2022 proved that.
(DIR) Post #AbFR29o7RdaXlzYDB2 by shecky2000@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-29T02:14:06Z
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@Arcalian Sort of agree. I swallowed a lot of that hopium before and have been disappointed.This is more about my sense of the normie. That's how I judge. Not "the military is coming to save us" or "fraud will be proven in court".
(DIR) Post #AbFR6DHuRjYdj4Q2xU by Arcalian@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-29T02:14:50Z
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@shecky2000 too many normies are just that, normies. they don't even know what is happening. at best they know "Things are bad". you try to tell them what's what, they call you a conspiracy theorist.
(DIR) Post #AbFRYrh9o51P9ftHsm by shecky2000@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-29T02:20:00Z
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@Arcalian It's changing. I am judging by my leftist family. They are tuning-out news.You can't talk anyone into taking-on your opinion. It's an internal struggle and it can happen. You can't do much. People resist the sale.What's new is the social embarrassment from defending Biden without Trump to blame. Or defending the vax when people are starting to understand the many deaths.Having one's fascist/globalist positions repeated everywhere gave social acceptance. Not the case now.
(DIR) Post #AbFRr3h9vhGFaKZDUW by Arcalian@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-29T02:23:18Z
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@shecky2000 my mom hates Trump beyond reason. She will vote for Biden. She expressed some doubt about vax effectiveness, then went right out and got the latest shot. My roomie fancies himself a "libertarian" but has NEVER voted. Ever. And won't now.
(DIR) Post #AbFT90q5O2lRtTrq6q by shecky2000@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-29T02:37:45Z
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@Arcalian Our moms are the same. And I used to fancy myself a libertarian. Eidn't vote for a couple decades.If the real enemies of America become obvious to the normie (and us as well: we don't really know who is intentionally stirring up shit behind the scenes), I believe things will shift.Think public awareness is key.We only know a little bit more than normies. But we have an acceptance of widespread corruption.They need to get us all in gulags before Mom & libertarian guy get that.
(DIR) Post #AbFTeDwihmoXWOqxay by Arcalian@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-29T02:43:23Z
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@shecky2000 I was a Libertarian that DID vote, for Libertarians. Until Trump. Because I actually paid attention to what he did once he got in. I'm not saying we have zero chance. But we need a LOT of votes to overcome the fraud. Unfortunately, they know that too.
(DIR) Post #AbFTuYPmN3N5daESOG by shecky2000@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-29T02:46:20Z
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@Arcalian If elections were fair, I'd say we had the votes before and we certainly have even more now.A lot of systems seem to be in a controlled demolition. Things bigger than an election. That's what I think anyway.
(DIR) Post #AbFUc9S2XuFsxL4vgW by Arcalian@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-29T02:54:13Z
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@shecky2000 the election is like, a checkpoint. we get it, the "bigger things" we can still fight. If we don't.....
(DIR) Post #AbFV5BibCD1sNwfZOi by shecky2000@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-29T02:59:28Z
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@Arcalian I tend to think that a lot of people are trying to make us pop in a bad way. When you say 'fight', it can't be that. So, it ends up being a persuasion/narrative battle. By any standard, the MSM/globalist chokehold on media is melting.
(DIR) Post #AbFVAqN7TTPDuyJs9I by Arcalian@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-29T03:00:29Z
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@shecky2000 i was saying what YOU were saying, about the frog. The election, if won, buys us time. If it's lost.... *buzzer*
(DIR) Post #AbFW2T50I3ZVJePr2O by shecky2000@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-29T03:10:10Z
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@Arcalian I don't agree the election is the buzzer. But I'm going on gut and assuming there are bigger things brewing.I think you'd agree we don't know a lot. So we have to go on patterns/gut to some extent.I agree the advantage goes to the side that has the most time. I think that's us. But I can't back it up with any facts. It's gut.My metric is gut too. I can't measure how normie attitude has/will advance. But I do think this is the most important thing.
(DIR) Post #AbFWEeAms5o1CDvdNA by Arcalian@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-29T03:12:23Z
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@shecky2000 we go by what we DO know. We know what the WEF wants to do, and when they want to do it by. Normie awareness helps...but only if we can stem the tide soon enough.And we know that Trump wouldn't be doing what he was doing if we had the luxury of time.
(DIR) Post #AbFWJdyn1CPC2mhQi8 by shecky2000@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-29T03:13:17Z
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@Arcalian What do you mean by "doing what he is doing"? Personally, I KNOW nothing about that.
(DIR) Post #AbFWNM1ZiVINW1ltz6 by Arcalian@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-29T03:13:57Z
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@shecky2000 running for president? Contesting all these lawsuits/criminal charges? Not giving up? You know all these things. You can see them.
(DIR) Post #AbFWTLC1il66fsVzHc by shecky2000@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-29T03:15:02Z
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@Arcalian What does time have to do with any of these things? I think he'd do all this with either tons of time or not much. It's all just right.
(DIR) Post #AbFWXli54bXm4dcSHo by Arcalian@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-29T03:15:50Z
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@shecky2000 if he had time he would not be doing these things, and THEY wouldn't be trying so hard to stop him.
(DIR) Post #AbFWZ1L4S1U4prSBFY by Arcalian@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-29T03:16:04Z
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@shecky2000 if we had time he'd hand the baton over to someone else.
(DIR) Post #AbFWb9i0IqGDNDCMK0 by shecky2000@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-29T03:16:27Z
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@Arcalian Disagree. But even if you're right, you don't know that. It's your theory.
(DIR) Post #AbFWe3QW7FE2l6Ow3U by Arcalian@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-29T03:16:58Z
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@shecky2000 ...uh....we don't know what we know? Right, okay. Good luck, man.
(DIR) Post #AbFWhcK6pMPjrE6RFY by shecky2000@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-29T03:17:37Z
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@Arcalian You don't know that Trump would hand the baton to someone else if he had more time or less. I don't either.
(DIR) Post #AbFWjwNdEAnIdqrHjU by Arcalian@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-29T03:18:02Z
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@shecky2000 he's old. So, yes. that's obvious.
(DIR) Post #AbFWrmKaTR8Dn9AiSe by Arcalian@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-29T03:19:27Z
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@shecky2000 you know how earlier you were talking about normies awareness of, for example, the vax? This is like that too.
(DIR) Post #AbFWwazg3L4A4sgjse by shecky2000@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-29T03:20:19Z
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@Arcalian We've covered a lot. Which "this" do you mean?
(DIR) Post #AbFX0YG8A6nmkrGq2a by Arcalian@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-29T03:21:02Z
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@shecky2000 I referred directly to your previous mentioning of normies and the vax. That's the "This". That's the normie's threshhold, this is another.
(DIR) Post #AbFXMdynZey4rphLEG by shecky2000@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-29T03:25:01Z
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@Arcalian Yeah. I have hope for them. I think there are truths that will contradict their beliefs and, at some point, will be impossible for many to ignore.Elections. Vax. Tranny stuff. whatever. All of their important people, organizations, totems are being exposed. Breaking up the team will happen. Even if they still hate Trump.
(DIR) Post #AbFXYThTcPF4SfEs8O by Arcalian@freeatlantis.com
2023-10-29T03:27:10Z
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@shecky2000 and Trump winning will give us the time needed for that to happen.