Post AbFApZJlghFPrSKVgO by rjohnston@mstdn.ca
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(DIR) Post #AbC9EeSAwps1e7DP9c by clive@saturation.social
2023-10-27T12:05:11Z
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Excellent @WIRED story busting myths about mobile-phone battery-charging: https://www.wired.com/story/how-to-improve-battery-life-tips-myths-smartphones/Bonus points for delving into the actual chemistry behind what’s happening inside the battery — and using that to explain its performance in behavior …… which leads to this really interesting conclusion in the excerpt below!
(DIR) Post #AbC9gqkMpp3LsjAcC0 by Hawkmoon@mastodon.social
2023-10-27T12:14:43Z
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@clive @WIRED I'm a Luddite who owns a Samsung M51.The battery lasts for days.
(DIR) Post #AbCAGhJzM7ov4evRCq by Selena@ivoor.eu
2023-10-27T12:21:15Z
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@clive @WIRED I'm on team 'charging overnight'.
(DIR) Post #AbCAzTnkTB4mAqCOzx by cpm@spore.social
2023-10-27T12:29:16Z
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@cliveyeahit's tricky stuff@WIRED @Selena
(DIR) Post #AbCC7JvbA8AJp5AoO8 by krakalak@twit.social
2023-10-27T12:41:55Z
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@clive @WIRED Of course if these phones still had user replaceable batteries like they used to, this wouldn't even be an issue. We could enjoy the full capacity of the battery and then at some point just easily pop in a new replacement.
(DIR) Post #AbCFj19di578SrPMH2 by clive@saturation.social
2023-10-27T13:22:21Z
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@krakalak @WIRED Couldn’t agree more
(DIR) Post #AbCH4oDUapySfCAI1g by clive@saturation.social
2023-10-27T13:37:34Z
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@Hawkmoon @WIRED Nice!
(DIR) Post #AbCHBXODYPKMVDOF8a by clive@saturation.social
2023-10-27T13:38:22Z
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@WIRED @Selena So am I because I’m too lazy to organize anything else I am intrigued by this idea of keeping it within a range, not sure I could get up enough energy to actually adhere to that schedule though
(DIR) Post #AbCHI0sYpGrlhRfdbc by clive@saturation.social
2023-10-27T13:38:42Z
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@WIRED @cpm @Selena Battery chemistry really is
(DIR) Post #AbCHoYunodigWmEvGi by TacosAndSunshine@infosec.exchange
2023-10-27T13:45:47Z
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@clive It would be nice if there was built-in functionality to implement the "don't charge above 80%" thing. Is there a thing that does this out there somewhere? I've only seen tools specifically written for Thinkpads
(DIR) Post #AbCIJUCTObu0siFbSS by jason@logoff.website
2023-10-27T13:51:20Z
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@clive is it excellent? I read it hoping it would mention that iPhones in fact keep your battery in this range all night, only bringing charge to 100% when they expect you to wake, or when your alarm is set. That seems like important info for people to know, IMO.Instead they say phones get to 100% and “trickle charge” all night, hurting battery longevity, a statement that hasn’t been true in iOS for many years.
(DIR) Post #AbCK9bDUebYleg8onw by chiraag@mastodon.online
2023-10-27T14:11:56Z
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@clive @WIRED I do actually use the battery charging limit to top off at 85% (I haven't charged to 100% in basically forever), and I rarely run it all the way down to 0 (just a product of how I use my phone, not a conscious choice) - usually sits at a bit lower than 20% when I put it to charge at night.
(DIR) Post #AbCbYR9Iv7t6tKbwem by cpm@spore.social
2023-10-27T17:26:55Z
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@cliveindeedstill very annoyed the "lithium" re-chargables are not req'd by any regulatory agency anywhere to clearly state exactly which 'Li-Ion' chemistry this thing is.It Matters!@WIRED @Selena
(DIR) Post #AbCinDopSndbZU1zJw by clive@saturation.social
2023-10-27T18:47:13Z
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@Yuvalne @WIRED Yeah, likely true in many cases
(DIR) Post #AbCirv82NeuT3KFwA4 by clive@saturation.social
2023-10-27T18:47:35Z
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@cpm @WIRED @Selena Yes!
(DIR) Post #AbCiz08EB4uMb2imuG by clive@saturation.social
2023-10-27T18:48:10Z
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@jason Good point, that would have been very useful info for a lot of readers
(DIR) Post #AbCj3Z6E6uSeCmxgZs by xerz@fedi.xerz.one
2023-10-27T18:51:47.503234Z
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@clive @WIRED fun fact: I do that already! :blobcatrainbow: :blobcatrainbow: :blobcatrainbow: :blobcatrainbow: :blobcatrainbow:
(DIR) Post #AbCj5CdiaQGP7uPMIq by clive@saturation.social
2023-10-27T18:49:02Z
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@tully @jason very cool!
(DIR) Post #AbCjAvMzhwoxIqJW1Q by clive@saturation.social
2023-10-27T18:49:18Z
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@tully @mlippert @jason headphone jacks rule
(DIR) Post #AbCjVqpBnn1rHsTqXQ by jason@logoff.website
2023-10-27T17:15:49Z
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@tully yeah I am in the camp of “I don’t want to think about this, and if my device fails because I didn’t maintain it, that’s on them”I tend to keep my phones for three years and HEAVILY use them and have absolutely _never_ had an issue with batteries.I suppose part of my issue with the WIRED article is I consider this knowledge non-actionable and it will empower users to make worse decisions.
(DIR) Post #AbCjVzlyX6o12W2uHI by clive@saturation.social
2023-10-27T18:50:36Z
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@jason @tully Possibly true!I still give 'em points for a decent description of battery chemistry and how it's affected by charging patterns, which virtually no stories on battery life ever doI take my small wins where I can find 'em 😂
(DIR) Post #AbCk3ufe0cJ73sG2sa by ethanjstark@hachyderm.io
2023-10-27T14:43:46Z
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@TacosAndSunshine @clive Apple just enabled the "don't charge above 80%" setting, but presently, it's only available for the latest phones.https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210512Which seems really dumb and arbitrary. Implementing this1. should have been done years ago2. Seems like it would take very, very few lines of code#iOS #iPhone #battery
(DIR) Post #AbCk3yzHxWOiRxTn3Q by clive@saturation.social
2023-10-27T18:52:24Z
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@ethanjstark @TacosAndSunshine Aha, hadn't seen that -- thank you!
(DIR) Post #AbFApZJlghFPrSKVgO by rjohnston@mstdn.ca
2023-10-28T23:11:40Z
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@clive @jason My Motorola Android phone, new last year, has the same feature. Don't know if older models do as well.
(DIR) Post #AbFhc3rWclZ11hHoQa by clive@saturation.social
2023-10-29T05:12:45Z
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@rjohnston @jason Right on!