Post AbBSVmAhD3IQTdxU4O by pinkyfloyd@pleroma.payfrit.com
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(DIR) Post #Ab91FhtOGVypUg3bzU by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-10-25T23:56:47Z
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Can someone please create a browser extension that pops up a big scary warning when you try to open a link infected by DataFarmers? Like the one we get when we try to open a link using HTTP instead of HTTPS.#BrowserExtensions #DataFarming
(DIR) Post #Ab91iOZNBc1DxlNFHE by jonoabroad@mastodon.nz
2023-10-26T00:02:00Z
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@strypey what the hell are data farmers 😯
(DIR) Post #Ab94QqNRMM7ErA7BfU by Salty@mastodon.nz
2023-10-26T00:17:34Z
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@jonoabroad @strypey Presumably something like this.
(DIR) Post #Ab94QrR1QWZi8YnYtE by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-10-26T00:32:29Z
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@Salty> Presumably something like thisThat's a good metaphor for DataFarming; any revenue model for online services that involves getting large number of people onto a platform, gathering data about them, and selling it (or the use of it) to third-parties. Any online platform funded by ads is probably a DataFarm.@jonoabroad
(DIR) Post #Ab94UbwEz5OhEZBllA by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-10-26T00:33:09Z
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@Salty> Presumably something like thisThat's a good metaphor for DataFarming; any revenue model for online services that involves getting large number of people onto a platform, gathering data about them, and selling it (or the use of it) to third-parties. Any online platform funded by ads is probably a #DataFarm.#DataFarming @jonoabroad
(DIR) Post #Ab9BUvpvhcUmctKxSy by jonoabroad@mastodon.nz
2023-10-26T01:51:38Z
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@strypey @Salty ahhh okay, this is what I assumed, but also, always worth an ask. Thank you.
(DIR) Post #Ab9OeuN7ImjcNpwnqa by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-10-26T04:18:57Z
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@jonoabroad> this is what I assumedGood to know the phrase is getting the general point across, prior to any detailed explained.> always worth an askThere are no silly questions, only silly hats ; )@Salty
(DIR) Post #Ab9P0jjZX9crlHrLBx by pinkyfloyd@pleroma.payfrit.com
2023-10-26T02:05:10.254868Z
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@strypey @Salty @jonoabroad actually that's not really true, what you're describing is more like data mining or data harvesting."data farming" doesn't really have to do with the internet, it's more about computer modeling.
(DIR) Post #Ab9P0kttCHTNNZh5ua by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-10-26T04:23:04Z
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@pinkyfloyd> "data farming" doesn't really have to do with the internet, it's more about computer modelingYou got a reference for that? AFAIK I coined the phrase, so I'd hope I know what it means.@Salty @jonoabroad
(DIR) Post #Ab9kINfGQN0HZ36Bf6 by Marc@fosstodon.org
2023-10-26T08:21:25Z
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@strypey @jonoabroad @Salty Possibly it was you strypey who shared this tool...https://themarkup.org/blacklightThis would include data farming detection?The service would require a browser extension though, and best to get the developers consent that their service would be used in this fashion.
(DIR) Post #Ab9qi8uAWR3p2gjoCO by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-10-26T09:33:28Z
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@Marc> Possibly it was you strypey who shared this tool...Nope, not me. Thanks for re-sharing, this looks really useful.For example, here's the analysis of the website of our highly-regarded public broadcaster;https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.rnz.co.nz%2F&device=mobile&location=usAs I already knew from using NoScript, it exposes visitors to 6 tracking scripts, including invasive uses of Goggle Analticks. @jonoabroad @Salty
(DIR) Post #Ab9qoxL1vRIBCCYDei by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-10-26T09:34:13Z
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@Marc> Possibly it was you strypey who shared this tool...Nope, not me. Thanks for re-sharing, this looks really useful.For example, here's the analysis of the website of our highly-regarded public broadcaster;https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.rnz.co.nz%2F&device=mobile&location=usAs I already knew from using NoScript, it exposes visitors to 6 tracking scripts, including invasive uses of Goggle Analticks.#DataFarming #RNZ #PublicMedia #PublicBroadcasting @jonoabroad @Salty
(DIR) Post #AbBNhdivwcDfysoJZg by pinkyfloyd@pleroma.payfrit.com
2023-10-26T14:12:18.738969Z
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@strypey @Salty @jonoabroad LMFAO you "coined the term". whatever. unless of course your last name is brandenstein.have a nice day.
(DIR) Post #AbBNhezdE1AduxdAEy by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-10-27T03:17:23Z
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@pinkyfloyd > you "coined the term"I'm not aware of consciously copying it from anyone.> unless of course your last name is brandensteinI web searched "brandenstein" with "datafarming". Still no idea what you're talking about.@Salty @jonoabroad
(DIR) Post #AbBSVmAhD3IQTdxU4O by pinkyfloyd@pleroma.payfrit.com
2023-10-27T03:20:27.685239Z
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@strypey @Salty @jonoabroad that's odd, i searched the same terms and this was my first resulthttp://unbox.org/all/trunk/doc/06/dataFarming/data_farming.pdfhave a nice day.
(DIR) Post #AbBSVn2vxOgJBrKnbs by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-10-27T04:11:43Z
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@pinkyfloyd >that's odd, i searched the same terms Different search engines give very different results for the same terms, see;https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/111299836401345327> this was my first result http://unbox.org/all/trunk/doc/06/dataFarming/data_farming.pdfThis is a completely unrelated use of the phrase "data farming" that I'd never heard of until I saw this.AFAIK I coined this use of the phrase "DataFarming" to describe the revenue model of selling user data to advertisers and databrokers;https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/111298503625090906@Salty @jonoabroad
(DIR) Post #AbC1dbGL9KIrM844XI by pinkyfloyd@pleroma.payfrit.com
2023-10-27T05:32:47.265200Z
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@strypey @Salty @jonoabroad btw you're like fucking trump with your rationalizations.go back and read the thread, from my perspective, and explain to me how you're such an inventor...?lmfao you act like you came up with the idea of data modeling or something.it's great that you did a thing. but ffs don't try to own a concept like it's your personal invention you just randomly came up with or something. yikes.oh and btw ai isn't a thing either. LLMs are the biggest waste of vc ever.ever.
(DIR) Post #AbC1dcDtZtwSKpvdMe by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-10-27T10:45:20Z
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@pinkyfloyd> btw you're like fucking trump with your rationalizationsTake your pills and jog on mate.@Salty @jonoabroad