Post Ab41OM9bUDnOtAxvZw by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
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(DIR) Post #Ab3af6hFVoSP6qSwkK by Konaburd@squawk.social
2023-10-22T16:04:34Z
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It never ceases to amaze me how hard people shit on Mastodon. This post is from Bluesky, but like, I have used Twitter, Bluesky, and Mastodon and I find Mastodon to be the EASIEST out of all of them.On Mastodon I don't worry about my post text limit. I type until I am satisfied. On Bluesky I have to carefully craft my words so they make sense but still fit in an arbitrary character count of 300.Also Bluesky doesn't have:DMsHashtagsPinned posts GIFs or video supportPost editingAnd more!So like, where is the competition? I don't understand why they think it is hard. I open Mastodon just like Twitter and post just like Twitter. It isn't any more of a hassle than any other program, in fact the character limit makes it less of a hassle. I feel like the mental gymnastics are strong here.#mastodon #bluesky #blueskysocial
(DIR) Post #Ab3af87WDd43WblRKa by EricMalves@squawk.social
2023-10-22T22:14:37Z
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@Konaburd I have tried to get going on bluesky but can’t get it rolling. By default it won’t show posts with under X number of likes. Starting an instance from scratch was hard to get connections but joining an already running instance, it’s easy to find folks to follow. Moderation tools do exactly as I need, plus I could go further if desired. I also don’t try to push it though, people get extra peeved when they find out you are involved in administering an instance. They assume you are trying to pump your user count up.
(DIR) Post #Ab3af8z30bsmCcoBlY by Flaky@awoo.fyi
2023-10-22T22:51:41.045406Z
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I’ve been using both and I feel more comfortable making quick posts on Bluesky while I feel more comfortable making longer posts on fedi. Might be the post limits though.As for why people are flocking to Bluesky? Two things IMO:Friends - people want to talk to their friends, never mind if the service has less features. It’s why Twitter is still around despite Elon constantly making it a toxic place to use, and the general audience moving away from Twitter seems to like Bluesky. Maybe it’s the familiarity of it as well.The audience on the fediverse making average users feel unwelcome. There was a post about Bluesky users being asked why they don’t want to join fedi and some of the reasons include having to abide by unwritten rules that weren’t a thing on the instance they were on, or feeling restricted as if they were posting on LinkedIn rather than the Twitter they once knew. Add to that the very extreme sides of the fediverse and I can see why people would rather join Bluesky, despite the lack of features.
(DIR) Post #Ab3af9UF8cptlNP6OG by Konaburd@squawk.social
2023-10-22T16:33:39Z
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I made a response to that post and now this is the kind of reply I am getting haha. Does anyone know what Natanael is talking about exactly??
(DIR) Post #Ab3afPybpUdIuBjZwW by EricMalves@squawk.social
2023-10-22T22:54:13Z
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@Flaky @Konaburd yeah, for a bit there some Fedi folks were being dicks about new people learning the meta. It was really irritating to see people getting scared off the platform.
(DIR) Post #Ab3ah1CAw7JCcvqJKi by Konaburd@squawk.social
2023-10-23T00:07:23Z
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@Flaky @EricMalves I get why people use Bluesky (I use it myself) but I don't understand people who act like it is better when it is clearly not any better, it's just different, and not by a large margin in my opinion!
(DIR) Post #Ab3ah25pbBpPPXsl5E by Flaky@awoo.fyi
2023-10-23T00:09:47.132999Z
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While I think the API side of things are better (everyone has to follow the Mastodon API here even when Mastodon lacks some features, whereas Bluesky’s API is basically near the same as Atproto’s), I definitely think they’re talking about the community more than anything. Things are a lot looser on Bluesky. There might also be some preconceived notions from negative experiences, too. Someone I know said that they hated Mastodon’s deck UI. Don’t know when that was but in any case it falls back into that.
(DIR) Post #Ab3ah3PigjKbVWC9iq by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2023-10-23T00:15:00.236340Z
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@Flaky @EricMalves @Konaburd much of it imo comes down to bad mastodon instance owners who have gone beyond the worst of culture war straight to "overcontrolling forum moderator circa 2009"
(DIR) Post #Ab3xOe5KQ4vAgUqegq by Flaky@awoo.fyi
2023-10-23T11:47:49.952954Z
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I think this is another issue with fedi adoption over Bluesky, and why Bluesky is more successful despite not being federated and having less features.If people do understand federation, they would really like to see which servers are blocked before sign-up so they can go “oh okay, this server probably isn’t for me” and join another one. If they don’t want people to use ryona.agency’s tool, they really should look at making their blocked instances available to the public that wants to join them.
(DIR) Post #Ab3yhisiuSnH18c4Su by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2023-10-23T13:34:37.617654Z
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@Flaky @EricMalves @Konaburd they know if they do this people won't sign up and people will ask uncomfortable questions (see why anyone asking questions about war crimes with the lastest war gets doxed on a truck or loses their job) so it has to be hidden from you.
(DIR) Post #Ab40zbTNOUXf9zPXmq by EricMalves@squawk.social
2023-10-23T12:09:10Z
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@Flaky @Konaburd I see what you mean. I think our block list is currently private, but it would make a lot of sense to make that info available. (No automated blocklists here)
(DIR) Post #Ab40zcWxSf08RO5v0a by Flaky@awoo.fyi
2023-10-23T12:25:49.451827Z
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Yeah, it becomes a bit of a headache when people go “wait why can’t I talk to my friend?”. I had this joining an alternative instance, recently and had to delete my account there.FWIW, there’s also Fediseer which is hosted by dbzer0 iirc (former r/Piracy mod who got kicked out by Reddit admins). furry.engineer is already on there and submitting their info. You get the option to guarantee instances, as well as give hesitations or full-on censures.Squawk.social has one hesitation and it’s an automated one that’s because you’re using Cloudflare, so nothing much to worry about: https://gui.fediseer.com/instances/detail/squawk.social
(DIR) Post #Ab40zdQG93ElCty5Cq by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2023-10-23T14:00:20.926158Z
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@Flaky @EricMalves @Konaburd >universal blocklists>Includes half the Fedi as usual Might as well name the next one with a ltg reference
(DIR) Post #Ab41OLAd8v1Tq4REXY by Flaky@awoo.fyi
2023-10-23T14:03:30.605696Z
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I don’t think Fediseer is supposed to be a “universal blocklist” per se (like how thebad.space was).From their FAQ: https://fediseer.com/faq/engHow this information is utilized is up to the various instance admins. One is perfectly free to not utilize the fediseer whatsoever.
(DIR) Post #Ab41OM9bUDnOtAxvZw by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2023-10-23T14:04:50.926339Z
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@Flaky @EricMalves @Konaburd given this instance and others I'm around are blocked, I think the next Blocklist should be straight to the point on getthatassbanned.social or gtab.social.
(DIR) Post #Ab41hNLlGP3u6IimiO by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2023-10-23T14:08:17.070364Z
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@Flaky @EricMalves @Konaburd also this is what they tell people running instanceshttps://codeberg.org/nev/awesome-fediadmin#user-content-basic-blocklistsIt's never going to get better without people changing, it's like pouring millions into schools and buying them stuff in a school where the kids still don't pass. And it's interesting how this happens a lot less on the side of the Fedi blocked from these people.
(DIR) Post #Ab42FsWhr9m0dfIEF6 by Kensortium@shitpost.cloud
2023-10-23T14:12:45.481301Z
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Gab is a racist transphobe HQ.
(DIR) Post #Ab42FtfFcsCcASIZCS by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2023-10-23T14:14:32.020875Z
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@Kensortium @Flaky @EricMalves @Konaburd no no GTAB means Get That Ass Banned https://youtu.be/A33BUvl3sCQ
(DIR) Post #Ab42o1SJAH8iB4W6ng by Kensortium@shitpost.cloud
2023-10-23T14:16:24.185565Z
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Oh i got it now.
(DIR) Post #Ab42o2T3OzKXJfsDbM by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2023-10-23T14:20:41.127261Z
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@Kensortium @Flaky @EricMalves @Konaburd so ltg is a really shitty fighting game streamer knowing for aggressively being mad at everyone and blaming everything else for losing games. People have called him black DSP due to how salty he is, combining wwe level shit talking in promos with constant losses.https://youtu.be/FH6dfof5B0Q
(DIR) Post #Ab42vRfK7CsHUe8zx2 by burner@norwoodzero.net
2023-10-23T14:22:06.466103Z
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bad opinion, ltg's rage is funny, DSP's is super boring
(DIR) Post #Ab43HyCZpIx8m2RGb2 by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2023-10-23T14:26:03.711118Z
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@burner @Flaky @Kensortium @EricMalves @Konaburd dsps funny not from his rage but from his piss poor gaming skills and now he's boringHe just turns on stream to ebeg these days for like 30 minutes
(DIR) Post #Ab43WPd6eAy1tUjahk by Kensortium@shitpost.cloud
2023-10-23T14:26:47.188536Z
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Well AVGNs scat vulgarity was also getting creepy as well.
(DIR) Post #Ab43WQggiLQVAtPxvU by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2023-10-23T14:28:42.322224Z
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@Kensortium @Flaky @burner @EricMalves @Konaburd
(DIR) Post #Ab43p6LSZSVdaOOMbo by Flaky@awoo.fyi
2023-10-23T14:31:16.997961Z
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I agree that these automatic blocklists don’t help, though I’m more optimistic of Fediseer than not, given that it’s not an automatic, be-all-end-all solution. No, it’s not perfect, moderation is messy. But IMO Fediseer does a better job, it’s up to the instance owner to judge.The blocked side of fedi can be another extreme that turns off outsiders with some of their posts, ngl. You also have the “blocked side” and the trigger-happy side, and the visible clash between the two, and then the entire fediverse is wondering why people are choosing Bluesky instead or staying on Twitter.Personally I like the way Awoo handles moderation, only fully blocking in the absolute worst case scenario, which has made finding another instance hard for me ngl.
(DIR) Post #Ab43p8ntQiRRD9i6Cm by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2023-10-23T14:32:03.628850Z
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@Flaky @EricMalves bluesky:https://www.wired.com/1993/04/gibson-2/
(DIR) Post #Ab45N9tNzN0IO542ka by Inginsub@clubcyberia.co
2023-10-23T14:49:26.624280Z
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@PurpCat @Kensortium @EricMalves @Flaky @Konaburd @burner :niggashockthink:
(DIR) Post #Ab4PFcy4090rKVwFKC by Flaky@awoo.fyi
2023-10-23T14:06:26.612847Z
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Awoo’s only hesitatation is for using Cloudflare so I’ve got no problems lol.