Post Ab3YIbETc9TxFK9DMW by 20002ist@thepit.social
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 (DIR) Post #AaZcx9kfQ4JMOC7b7o by mattblaze@federate.social
       2023-10-08T22:04:43Z
       
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       Reminder about Mastodon "private" messages. Aside from not being end-end-encrypted (and so visible to instance administrators), they CC anyone @-mentioned ANYWHERE in the body of the message (not just those listed at the start).They are now called "private mentions" rather than "private messages", but if you don't fully understand the semantics, this behavior may be unexpected and/or cause unpleasant side effects.
       
 (DIR) Post #AaZgFF3cjOfLv5Itqi by mattblaze@federate.social
       2023-10-08T22:08:54Z
       
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       Also, if you "turn off" private messages, anyone can still send them to you. They're just silently ignored by your client, without warning to the sender.Basically, private messages here remain a trainwreck. Use something else if you want to send someone a message privately.
       
 (DIR) Post #AaZgFFt1eHmaUVLwy8 by Adam@social.lein.us
       2023-10-08T22:46:38Z
       
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       @mattblaze Yeah,  it should be removed completely in my opinion. Public messaging should be completely separated from private messaging.  More thoughts: https://bookofadamz.com/the-fediverse-should-avoid-bundling-private-messages-completely-and-implement-this-instead/
       
 (DIR) Post #AaZgFGre0uGvWViMSG by mattblaze@federate.social
       2023-10-08T22:15:14Z
       
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       And, of course, people are jumping all over me to defend this crap, the way folks on that other platform defend anything owned by Elon Musk.
       
 (DIR) Post #AaaXe74aqhezy0VBXE by AubreyDeLosDestinos@101010.pl
       2023-10-09T08:45:00Z
       
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       @mattblaze, I still wait to be accidentally mentioned by someone talking behind my back. I wonder if this happens a lot in general.
       
 (DIR) Post #Aab1uGqjGX4DXudbSy by breiter@hachyderm.io
       2023-10-08T23:06:07Z
       
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       @mattblaze You have reinforced for me the “if it’s not Signal, it’s not private” heuristic.
       
 (DIR) Post #Aab1uHq3aW7ic7Ka3c by Adam@social.lein.us
       2023-10-09T14:24:04Z
       
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       @breiter Signal is centralized and 2 years ago stopped being open source (Announced here: https://signal.org/blog/keeping-spam-off-signal/), so you have no idea what that closed-source component is doing when it scans messages... so maybe not private anymore.
       
 (DIR) Post #Aab3OPwG8X3UNSABkW by breiter@hachyderm.io
       2023-10-09T14:40:43Z
       
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       @Adam signal is end-to-end encrypted on the client which is open source. The spam-filter server component does not change any of that.
       
 (DIR) Post #AabQ8WbZsh6bMhsevI by mattblaze@federate.social
       2023-10-08T23:50:13Z
       
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       Seriously, I think John Mastodon has sufficiently thick skin that he can handle people criticizing or warning about misfeatures and unexpectedly dangerous behavior. He does not need you to defend his honor.
       
 (DIR) Post #AabQ8XKbBJ7NcKwc64 by mattblaze@federate.social
       2023-10-09T00:09:44Z
       
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       Perhaps if I had the long experience with the Internet that others here apparently do, I'd find Mastodon Private Message semantics more intuitive and sensible. But please forgive me - I'm a relative newcomer, having gotten online only a bit before the migration from net 10 and HOSTS.TXT.
       
 (DIR) Post #AabQ8XzMjjjBem1Adk by mattblaze@federate.social
       2023-10-09T13:47:31Z
       
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       My replies to this thread consist of a set of people saying“Thanks, I didn’t understand that” and another set of people saying “Why did you post this? Everyone understands that already”.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ab3YIXDGYi8YmPYBv6 by darryl_ramm@hachyderm.io
       2023-10-09T01:15:13Z
       
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       @mattblaze I'm thinking of T-shirt: "I ran a USENET node bitch."
       
 (DIR) Post #Ab3YIYz9y82eHExxD6 by 20002ist@thepit.social
       2023-10-09T01:25:35Z
       
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       @darryl_ramm @mattblaze <hums “N-N-T-P” to the tune of “YMCA”>
       
 (DIR) Post #Ab3YIaO0lDVycbbJaK by darryl_ramm@hachyderm.io
       2023-10-09T01:28:29Z
       
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       @20002ist @mattblaze Cough, my USENET node predated NNTP.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ab3YIasquYBWAG1wem by darryl_ramm@hachyderm.io
       2023-10-09T19:02:53Z
       
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       @mattblaze OK made it a thing. Now the delivery wait.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ab3YIbETc9TxFK9DMW by 20002ist@thepit.social
       2023-10-09T01:34:32Z
       
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       @darryl_ramm @mattblaze I salute you, sir. My first-hand USENET experience runneth back only to 1987 or so. cc @SteveBellovin
       
 (DIR) Post #Ab3YIc7mIXia0q1NYm by SteveBellovin@mastodon.lawprofs.org
       2023-10-09T01:37:34Z
       
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       @20002ist @darryl_ramm @mattblaze I had one summer, circa 1974 or 1975, using the NCP ARPANET, to connect to a Multics system a Rome Air Development Center as part of a research project. The finale of the project was the prof and the student team visiting RADC, where we got to see BUFFs—B-52s—parked by the road.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ab3YIdRJPOwC5iAUe8 by SteveBellovin@mastodon.lawprofs.org
       2023-10-09T01:56:48Z
       
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       @20002ist @darryl_ramm @mattblaze The other fun thing about that project was that Fred Brooks added me to it because it was running late near the deadline, so I got to say, "Dr. Brook—are you adding manpower to a late project?” He laughed…