Post AaotaDGgJBcZ9BRZGS by PricklyPam@mstdn.social
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(DIR) Post #Aaota90w7meLxC2wAS by carnage4life@mas.to
2023-10-15T23:34:43Z
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Electric vehicle sales in the US were up 50% year over year in Q3. While Tesla is still the 800lb gorilla from a marketshare perspective it’s dipped from 62% to 50% share.This is a contrary trend to the thesis behind its massive valuation — that Tesla will effectively be bigger than the rest of the auto industry as EVs take over.Analysts are hoping the Cybertruck reverses the trend. The problem is it looks terrible while other car makers have sexier cars coming.https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ev-sales-hit-new-record-in-q3-as-tesla-market-share-dips-194135842.html
(DIR) Post #Aaota9n9EXDMMibRJY by mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
2023-10-16T01:00:21Z
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@carnage4life As I said 5 years ago, that thesis was always a pipe dream, and only believed by people that don't know anything about Asia or poor people.Yes, most cars will soon be non-gas cars. China has already passed a law saying that internal combustion engines will be banned after 2030. But...Most EVs sold in China will be under $10K. The Wuling mini EV is available today for under $5K. Tesla can't even operate down there.Wuling Mini EV ($4500).https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MpJlfFyDBzk
(DIR) Post #AaotaAVoYSwYbFV6w4 by mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
2023-10-16T01:06:23Z
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@carnage4life Wuling has doubled sales since 2019, from 374,000 cars, to 724,000 cars in 2022.🤯The people that say "Americans would never drive a cheap car!🦅🇺🇲" are the same people that do understand that our terrible public transpo infra means that you need a car for most jobs, do understand that the average new EV in the US costs $59,000, but don't understand why people aren't having kids, buying houses, or even going to the movies as much as they used to.Cheap EVs are coming to the US.
(DIR) Post #AaotaBMzMlThGANZom by brinnbelyea@fosstodon.org
2023-10-16T02:59:23Z
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@mekkaokereke @carnage4life Cue the articles boomersplaining why Millennials and Gen Z buying cheap EVs instead of expensive gas guzzlers will destroy the econoimy and the American Dream. "They're not even tricking the $10,000 vehicle out with $5,000 worth of air dams, spoiler and mag wheel accessories. All they are doing is using the vehicle to survive. We had cool cars that we used to express ourselves and our identities back when gas was 29 cents a gallon."
(DIR) Post #AaotaCKXnL7IEsF8e8 by ericmacknight@mastodon.social
2023-10-16T03:12:45Z
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@brinnbelyea @mekkaokereke @carnage4life Some of us boomers have been on the right side (usually the losing side) of every issue you can name. I have not owned a car since 2018, and the only car I have owned since 2004 was a Nissan Leaf. OTOH, most of my students drive or are driven to school in big SUVs. It's not about age.
(DIR) Post #AaotaDGgJBcZ9BRZGS by PricklyPam@mstdn.social
2023-10-16T04:24:57Z
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@ericmacknight @brinnbelyea @mekkaokereke @carnage4life Another boomersplainer here.You're so right about some of us boomers.I've been on "the right side" of stuff since 1970, when I was volunteering at a recycling center. I'm so pissed that recycling hasn't come much further since then. Vegetarian since 1989. For the environment and for the animals.
(DIR) Post #AaotaE7V8ns7n09kau by fixiemama@mastodon.social
2023-10-16T06:35:35Z
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@PricklyPam @ericmacknight @brinnbelyea @mekkaokereke @carnage4life I'm loving all the activism on display in this thread. I was born in the 70s to Silent Gen parents. It's just a little odd to see all this in the context of electric cars, since the first electric and hybrid cars were developed well before the Model T. Imagine, if the fossil fuel industry hadn't done such a great job of suppressing innovation in electric transport, how far ahead of climate change we would be right now.
(DIR) Post #AaotaEo2adtpuw3its by hyphen@duwa.ng
2023-10-16T06:56:39.675234Z
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@fixiemama @PricklyPam @ericmacknight @brinnbelyea @mekkaokereke @carnage4life not that far with how destructive both car infra and car manufacturing is.
(DIR) Post #AaotaF53ZNVili1JQG by PricklyPam@mstdn.social
2023-10-16T04:29:08Z
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@ericmacknight @brinnbelyea @mekkaokereke @carnage4life Prius driver from 2005 till I recently got a PHEV that gets me almost everywhere I need to go on electric. Demonstrated against the Vietnam war, millions of us protested against the Iraq war even before it BEGAN,https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/feb/15/march-iraq-politics-war-public-opinionAnd what has it gotten us? Not a damn thing. Capitalism and the military-industrial complex have won every time.But we persist.
(DIR) Post #AaqIXg70ldDpLTaNcW by joby@hachyderm.io
2023-10-16T13:18:19Z
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@fj @ajkandy @mekkaokereke @johnshirley2024 @carnage4life Yeah, I've been saying for years that Toyota specifically is going to drink Tesla's milkshake eventually. They fart Tesla's entire R&D budget, plus they have the advantage of already knowing how to make cars that are ... like watertight and stuff.If they return to Scion form but electric Tesla's fucked.I mean how many people just got 3s because they were the cheapest EV with name recognition and they wanted the "an car" EV?
(DIR) Post #AaqIXsQEzxjZWafuG8 by joby@hachyderm.io
2023-10-16T13:29:28Z
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@fj @ajkandy @mekkaokereke @johnshirley2024 @carnage4life I also think Honda's one to watch. Like Toyota they're *already* operating at the scale Tesla fanboys fever dream of. They also have something interesting going on with their hybrids right now, where they're basically already just generator-driven EVs until highway speeds.The hybrid Accord is already *this close* to being an EV. An EV that would do *numbers* if they sold it cheap.
(DIR) Post #AaqIXxTGEA7XBP7tA0 by sheean@hachyderm.io
2023-10-16T14:11:56Z
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@joby @fj @ajkandy @mekkaokereke @johnshirley2024 @carnage4life it’s a shame Honda didn’t rework the e to a cheaper or more useful version. Instead it’s canceled with a “people want SUVs” bull story without recognizing their own blatant mistakes. Meanwhile Nissan introduced the Sakura, a cheapish (15k) electric kei car in Japan and outsold ALL other EVs sold the previous year. In two months. If only kei cars could become a thing elsewhere…
(DIR) Post #AaqIYHwi6NYqgX3gq8 by SkipHuffman@astrodon.social
2023-10-16T14:47:42Z
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@sheean @joby @fj @ajkandy @mekkaokereke @johnshirley2024 @carnage4life A key point that's being neglected in this discussion of who the "customer" is. The customer for auto manufacturers in the US is car dealers, not drivers. And the most valuable resale products for car dealers is financing, followed by maintenance. So car dealers are incentivized to resell expensive cars that need lots of maintenance. The exception to this is Tesla, which sells directly.
(DIR) Post #AaqIYSw3FAZOlfpoq8 by mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
2023-10-16T14:57:24Z
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@SkipHuffman @sheean @joby @fj @ajkandy @johnshirley2024 @carnage4life Teslas are ironically, less reliable than other cars, despite being EVs.🙂🙃Consumer Reports had them next to last in terms of reliability in 2021, bottom 3 in 2022, and still low in 2023.https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-reliability-model-s-3-x-y-consumer-reports-satisfaction-2021-11And a Tesla whistleblower alleges that it's even worse than that. Much worse.😬https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/12/tesla-whistleblowers-filed-complaint-to-sec-in-2021-what-it-said.html
(DIR) Post #AaqIYb2j6Ef9uh1GM4 by drgeraint@glasgow.social
2023-10-16T23:11:03Z
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@mekkaokereke @SkipHuffman @sheean @joby @fj @ajkandy @johnshirley2024 @carnage4life Not ironic at all. Teslas are badly built cars made by a badly run tech company. Other EVs are built by car companies that know how to build and test cars, and don't beta test safety critical features with the general public on public roads.
(DIR) Post #AaqS5Zo5cDObDuyS5Q by MHowell@kolektiva.social
2023-10-17T00:58:06Z
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@drgeraint @mekkaokereke @SkipHuffman @sheean @joby @fj @ajkandy @johnshirley2024 @carnage4life Testing philosophy of Tesla and SpaceX are equivalent: Build it, break it, learn, try to make next one better. The difference is rockets are tested in isolation from the general public.