Post AalD2vpxdbezTEEtKy by tante@tldr.nettime.org
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(DIR) Post #AalD2vpxdbezTEEtKy by tante@tldr.nettime.org
2023-10-14T12:15:49Z
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A thing I keep wondering about as a non-lawyer.So we know that #GitHub #Copilot was absolutely trained on GPLed code. My naive understanding is that therefore any code Copilot generates could be (at least partially) derivative and would need to be GPLed. Where am I wrong?@hook maybe?
(DIR) Post #AalDHrGWutX1dUmffk by frumble@chaos.social
2023-10-14T12:18:35Z
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@tante Yes, and lawsuits are on the way.
(DIR) Post #AalDKsU8q4X2HragLo by tante@tldr.nettime.org
2023-10-14T12:18:57Z
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@frumble do you have a link to one?
(DIR) Post #AalDbrQK2U9Puwu05g by julian@fietkau.social
2023-10-14T12:22:13Z
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@tante https://githubcopilotlitigation.com/ is the big one I've heard of.@frumble
(DIR) Post #AalDl6AAbihIEmkgy0 by frumble@chaos.social
2023-10-14T12:23:52Z
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@tante https://lwn.net/Articles/914150/https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/8/23446821/microsoft-openai-github-copilot-class-action-lawsuit-ai-copyright-violation-training-data
(DIR) Post #AalDnjzBWBM8KCsEc4 by luap42@chaos.social
2023-10-14T12:24:03Z
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@tante @frumble there's this one that mentions a violation of the GPL and also seems to mention the terms in the complaint (linked there)https://githubcopilotlitigation.com
(DIR) Post #AalFtJuLaX9H5iOoTI by hanno@mastodon.social
2023-10-14T12:47:47Z
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@tante IANAL, but I think there's a question whether the pieces are large enough to justify copyright. There tends to be a believe that trivial enough small pieces aren't copyrightable. (See also openssl relicensing, I think they were okay with not having consent for all trivial patches.)
(DIR) Post #AalI2biMx5tKpgLw8G by alper@rls.social
2023-10-14T13:11:29Z
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@tante @hook Analogies with humans are flawed but if I look at a bunch of GPL’d code and then give you suggestions how to write something, is what you write then subject to the same license? Seems like quite the stretch.I think this gets more interesting when it comes to say entire project generation.
(DIR) Post #AalKLNRmQGKDzcfgEy by luis_in_brief@social.coop
2023-10-14T13:37:40Z
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@tante @hook I went into this on a podcast a disturbingly long time ago now: https://changelog.com/podcast/458
(DIR) Post #AalQepC05aVpGrwmAK by Frieke72@mastodon.social
2023-10-14T14:48:24Z
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@tante toot and replies maybe also interesting for @jpagroenen (and perhaps share Dutch experiences/ knowledge)?
(DIR) Post #Aall7TEQoeTYds1M92 by gvlx@masto.pt
2023-10-14T18:37:40Z
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@tante @hook I suppose that's waiting for its day in court...Until then, those using Copilot *or any other code generator ai* should consider their code is now under the AGPLv3 license.