Post Aahs1F3sfkBiapC6fg by PostingHellbound@shitposter.club
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(DIR) Post #AahqdP9tNel10J4lA8 by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-10-12T21:20:19.467810Z
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It wasn't like, a rule, but criticizing Matrix even just a few months ago just got you eye rolls and dismissals, but now I guess one or two people successfully said the emperor has no clothes and now people accept it.
(DIR) Post #AahqisruLaOSazHCKm by ElDeadKennedy@shitposter.club
2023-10-12T21:21:46.304014Z
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@Moon i never liked matrixmainly because i've never used matrix
(DIR) Post #Aahqu0RAXyzVFs4aS8 by dcc@annihilation.social
2023-10-12T21:23:40.254791Z
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@ElDeadKennedy @Moon Irc is the best :pepe_cofe:
(DIR) Post #AahqxUkoHp2s9KvK3U by 51rH0n3y84d93r@noagendasocial.com
2023-10-12T21:24:24Z
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@Moon what's the issue with Matrix now?
(DIR) Post #AahqxrMqD6XSHet0O8 by icedquinn@blob.cat
2023-10-12T21:24:27.296179Z
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@ElDeadKennedy @Moon i liked psyc :blobcatderpy: matrix i think shit the bed with the graph merging protocol. it makes it real hard to do anything. like if someone is banned its still legal for them to spam because they just insert the events in the graph before they were banned, and there's no way to discern between that and a genuine netsplit. and the docs straight up say this because they have recommendations for how clients should render such an attack
(DIR) Post #AahqytmaiRAE43QTPU by lain@lain.com
2023-10-12T21:23:59.833808Z
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@Moon the thing is, i think many people are going overboard with it, saying that matrix is trash and has always been trash. I have used matrix for years and it was alright. these days i'd probably rather run xmpp or just use signal if i need free software, or telegram or whatsapp if i don't care.
(DIR) Post #AahrAh140W5VwcoqxM by PostingHellbound@shitposter.club
2023-10-12T21:26:22.272885Z
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@Moon there is no guarantee the new consensus is better/more accurate than the old one. that said, i have been always of two minds about it: the E2EE and federation aspects were always a big value-add to me, but the UX also always had questionable directions. I wouldn't even permit redactions that cause your client to drop data, for example
(DIR) Post #AahrMRBsfjJ0KzTltA by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-10-12T21:28:53.508107Z
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@PostingHellbound that's fair, I'm just happy more people are starting to agree with me so I don't feel so crazy.
(DIR) Post #AahrZG4xIR8ndjLxy4 by romin@shitposter.club
2023-10-12T21:31:14.340717Z
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@Moon well it's what naturally ends happening after years of running synapse
(DIR) Post #AahrhcnWiCa2PyBsMC by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-10-12T21:32:35.204553Z
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@lain I just had constant problems with performance and malfunctioning rooms so my opinion of it is very negative. Also when I wrote 10grans bot I immediately ran into problems, filed an issue on their github and it didn't get fixed for over two years.
(DIR) Post #AahrlwfImtF5C4P5kG by PostingHellbound@shitposter.club
2023-10-12T21:33:13.431135Z
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@Moon yeah, i'm with you there. I don't like the thing where people ignore arguments against "their side" and arguments for "the enemy side". There's nothing so great or so terrible to be worth doing that for.I just wanted to jump into the details
(DIR) Post #AahroqfXXONxSvtp6e by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-10-12T21:34:02.020609Z
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@PostingHellbound I am actually running a Matrix server again just for myself that was written in Rust, and it's maybe 90% working correctly, I can't enter one of my own rooms from the old server for some vague "compatibility" reason.
(DIR) Post #AahruFNj5GBfYh8pLk by dragnucs@social.touha.me
2023-10-12T21:34:59Z
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@Moon @PostingHellbound matrix can help you get laid.
(DIR) Post #AahrxyUno66ULXEEwy by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-10-12T21:35:40.544451Z
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@dragnucs @PostingHellbound I don't believe it.
(DIR) Post #Aahs1F3sfkBiapC6fg by PostingHellbound@shitposter.club
2023-10-12T21:36:06.573009Z
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@Moon yeah, an outdated client i keep around to talk to an outdated server can read some rooms on another server, but can't send. i don't know why, but it's bizarre
(DIR) Post #AahspkMEaYFq8QrTTE by adiz@soc0.outrnat.nl
2023-10-12T21:45:25.221Z
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@Moon@shitposter.club I prefer IRC, but I am also very active on Matrix and it's generally fine. Synapse, from what I've seen and engaged with, is a hot mess. It's looking that Dendrite is going to really streamline and simplify things and "mature" the whole package, so earnestly looking forward to that project reaching prime-time.
(DIR) Post #AahsqsCktmGUlIxtPk by dragnucs@social.touha.me
2023-10-12T21:45:35Z
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@Moon @PostingHellbound I can't show you pictures but you can use to communicate with people and sexte them.
(DIR) Post #AahtCrF1A4wg91VRfk by ElDeadKennedy@shitposter.club
2023-10-12T21:49:35.844408Z
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@dcc @Moon you said it, brother
(DIR) Post #AahtOQyWdyNO9nJPeK by olmitch@shitposter.club
2023-10-12T21:51:41.235597Z
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What exactly is required for people to see it as "real"? people are actively using it. Does it need to look and act identically? Fosscord was working on it but they got sued into oblivion
(DIR) Post #AahtQGi9mB1Gu2Wwxk by olmitch@shitposter.club
2023-10-12T21:52:01.337558Z
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look and feel identically to discord that is
(DIR) Post #AahtaC6Xl4wtVlfbrE by adiz@soc0.outrnat.nl
2023-10-12T21:53:48.731Z
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@olmitch@shitposter.club I don't understand what your talking about or what your hangup here is? Are we discussing Matrix the protocol and its implementations therein or are we talking about clients like Element? I was referring to Matrix-Synapse, specifically.
(DIR) Post #Aahu9NvJo8TaIpCSIa by olmitch@shitposter.club
2023-10-12T22:00:10.492918Z
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I'm just reacting to moon's post, trying to understand what's being talked about too.
(DIR) Post #AahuK103NSpWOLU2fg by adiz@soc0.outrnat.nl
2023-10-12T22:02:05.450Z
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@olmitch@shitposter.club I'm talking about Matrix the protocol, agnostic to any particular client. My personal experience with trying to deploy a Matrix-Synapse instance/server has been that it's messy with lots of moving parts and very temperamental.
(DIR) Post #AahuLbjqGngccjezeC by olmitch@shitposter.club
2023-10-12T22:02:22.819243Z
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oh, the deployment part, that makes a lot of sense
(DIR) Post #AahuPaDRs9XP3nP6wq by olmitch@shitposter.club
2023-10-12T22:03:06.193936Z
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I dunno I set up a matrix server a couple years ago and it wasn't that bad. I just followed the directions. I was mostly using Schildi chat. I even had a discord bridge
(DIR) Post #AahuSufEIsA5LbzCqm by adiz@soc0.outrnat.nl
2023-10-12T22:03:42.245Z
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@olmitch@shitposter.club I'm most certainly way less technically adept or competent/literate than you are.
(DIR) Post #Aahv6Me4CgbNQKFocy by olmitch@shitposter.club
2023-10-12T22:10:48.904315Z
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I doubt that hahaha
(DIR) Post #AahvQARRHo9nMln4Qy by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-10-12T22:13:56.991909Z
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They never fixed the problem of "too much undocumented, too much changing so fast that no alternative implementation can catch up"It's been years. Where's the rewrite away from Python?
(DIR) Post #AahvZ4ubDNTGp3g9WS by lain@lain.com
2023-10-12T22:15:20.389665Z
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@feld @Moon honestly, i think never having any real alternative (both client and server side) was probably good as it made it possible for them to experiment with changes, nearly as much as a proprietary server would do. but then being wedded to an inefficient 'platonic world of ideas' type protocol makes even less sense.
(DIR) Post #AaiI5h3swgbsoK0b1k by birdulon@shpposter.club
2023-10-13T02:28:24.500598Z
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@Moon They say some nice things conceptually but every time I look into it they are several years away from it being implemented in a usable manner.I also don't like how Element was written with the assumption of one account/identity on a universally federated network, with no regard for IRC-style usage of accounts/identities on other, disconnected networks (or even multiple accounts/identities on the same IRC network!)