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 (DIR) Post #AafLd0YLNUdznOvKkq by mcc@mastodon.social
       2023-09-30T14:28:12Z
       
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       It is getting increasingly awkward that my only daily drivers are a Win10 machine and a laptop based on antiquated MacOS. I should get a simple Linux laptop.Last time I tried to do this though it turned out any laptops that run Linux with full hardware support out of the box are pretty expensive.
       
 (DIR) Post #AafLd1JUYCMG9cyzFA by mcc@mastodon.social
       2023-09-30T14:29:29Z
       
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       I was like, it's ok to have just an old laptop! Anything I need to do I can ssh to the Windows 10 machine or the [virtually useless] mac mini! And then I started doing things that require interacting with USB devices connected to a machine I am physically in the same room as at the moment
       
 (DIR) Post #AafLd25LgGdgY3NCq0 by mcc@mastodon.social
       2023-10-06T19:13:15Z
       
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       I wonder, if I went on tilt and decided to buy this laptop *this weekend*, if I could do this in a way it arrives before next Thursday.
       
 (DIR) Post #AafLd2z0LL9tKfPeaW by mcc@mastodon.social
       2023-10-11T16:19:11Z
       
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       MINUTE 0: Okay, this is it. I'm going to buy a new laptop to run Linux on. I'm going to set only one rule for myself: It must NOT be a Lenovo.MINUTE 1: *Opens https://frame.work ; looks at prices*MINUTE 2: *Typing "Lenovo Thinkpad" into Google*
       
 (DIR) Post #AafMBnIee0kIpNAlGa by getimiskon@fedi.getimiskon.xyz
       2023-10-11T16:30:10.329860Z
       
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       @mcc I personally use a laptop from Acer and it works pretty well. In fact, BSD-based OSes and even macOS can run without many issues. And yes, I tried them. My biggest issue is the build quality, which is shit.
       
 (DIR) Post #Aaflwuv2dEzsvFh7A0 by mcc@mastodon.social
       2023-10-11T19:54:19Z
       
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       Okay. After staring blankly at many pages, I think these are the models I'm considering. They're all Windows but I'll be immediately wiping for Linux. Note these prices are in CAD. Shippers: Amazon, Canada Computers, Canada Computers, Lenovo.Do any of these jump out at you as unusually good deals or unusually bad deals? How do I even tell the difference? I think I'm leaning to #2 or #3 (advantage: touchscreen, plus they're Canada Computers so I can do returns/exchanges in person)
       
 (DIR) Post #AaflwvknWoOhVluRpg by mcc@mastodon.social
       2023-10-11T19:57:44Z
       
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       A lotta people recommended I buy refurbished and I'm open to that but when I started looking refurbished the choices were even more scanty and erratic than buying normal. My head is swimming, I do not understand the difference between a ThinkPad 14, a ThinkPad 14s, a ThinkPad 14 with Touchscreen and a ThinkPad 14 Yoga (or, sometimes, a 14s with Touchscreen, or possibly a 14s Yoga I lost track)
       
 (DIR) Post #AaflwwQH2bZfaPJZTs by mcc@mastodon.social
       2023-10-11T19:58:04Z
       
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       Thanks to the power of the Internet, I can experience choice paralysis with 13,000 people watching
       
 (DIR) Post #AaflwxCU9M8fzvs4cy by mcc@mastodon.social
       2023-10-11T19:59:25Z
       
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       What I want: The touchpad works real good and it feels goodWhat the online store pages can tell me about: Here are a series of numbers that you must have memorized the Intel and AMD product catalogues of the last 8 years to mean anything
       
 (DIR) Post #AaflwxxdK3qwM9vj7I by mcc@mastodon.social
       2023-10-11T20:01:43Z
       
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       WAIT. I ONLY JUST REALIZED "THINKPAD" AND "THINKBOOK" ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. MY BRAIN WAS NORMALIZING THOSE TWO WORDS INTO THE SAME WORD. OH NO. OH NO
       
 (DIR) Post #AaflwymKHaP0tNeD8C by mcc@mastodon.social
       2023-10-11T20:06:03Z
       
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       How much of the advice I've gotten over the last several hours was useless because I was mentally collapsing statements about thinkpads and thinkbooks into the same thing. Also do both thinkpads and thinkbooks come in both 14 and 14s variants?!
       
 (DIR) Post #AaflwzX7TbphEVXa4G by mcc@mastodon.social
       2023-10-11T20:12:43Z
       
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       Incidentally while I'm already flooding the TL, this one weird and incredibly cheap "detachable" "business notebook" where you just tear off the keyboard to turn it into a tablet is super cheap and sounds absolutely *fantastic* https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=710_4425&item_id=245452But I don't even *find* the "ThinkPad X1 tablet" on Lenovo's "supports Linux" list so I haven't been considering this one. https://support.lenovo.com/ca/en/solutions/pd031426-linux-for-personal-systems
       
 (DIR) Post #Aaflx0PMDxDZwiutbk by mcc@mastodon.social
       2023-10-11T21:03:57Z
       
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       Wait wtf just happened
       
 (DIR) Post #Aaflx1A9PyeGHqoGXo by mcc@mastodon.social
       2023-10-11T21:04:26Z
       
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       It like… spawned
       
 (DIR) Post #Aaflx24W2Pjd6fBHOq by chillicampari@layer8.space
       2023-10-11T21:16:11Z
       
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       @mcc from what I understand about boxes, I think you might need one of these to get it open and collect what is inside. It's an older tool, but should still work. Good luck!
       
 (DIR) Post #Aaflx2zwatfjym38ue by mcc@mastodon.social
       2023-10-11T21:06:40Z
       
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       I went to the store and was like "I'm thinking of buying this thing from the website. Do you have anything similar I could try the touchpad?" and they're like "we have that laptop. that exact laptop. here" and I was like oh could you open it and let me try the touchpad and they're like no. But you can buy it and return it in 15 days no-fault if you don't like it. And I was like OK??? And now I have a thinkpad
       
 (DIR) Post #AafrY7FYFTm9eQqRge by izaya@social.shadowkat.net
       2023-10-11T21:39:29.645392Z
       
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       @mcc I don't know the specifics of what you ask here but I just want to wish you luckAbout once a year I go looking for a new laptop and yet I'm still using an X220
       
 (DIR) Post #AaitUjJVPGfHL37H2e by TomF@mastodon.gamedev.place
       2023-10-13T03:38:34Z
       
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       @mcc So what did you get, and is it actually good? Because I need a new laptop myself, and I've been leaning towards the ThinkPads.
       
 (DIR) Post #AaitUkI7lt9cN3TgWm by reedbeta@mastodon.gamedev.place
       2023-10-13T03:54:53Z
       
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       @TomF @mcc My thinkpad had an *incredibly annoying* feature that it would randomly dim the screen after ~20 seconds of idle time (but not always). I only just recently figured out how to disable that (it's a hidden service that came pre-installed).I've also had no end of trouble with sleep mode. It will wake up randomly and not go back to sleep, draining the battery. It will sometimes shut itself down for no reason even when plugged in. It will sometimes refuse to sleep when I close the lid.
       
 (DIR) Post #AaitUlBQSHOF8ZLqj2 by TomF@mastodon.gamedev.place
       2023-10-13T03:59:05Z
       
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       @reedbeta @mcc The thing is I hear this stuff about literally every single sort of laptop, including Macs. I once got off a plane, reached for my bag and almost scalded myself because the MacBook inside had apparently been running its fans at full speed the whole way. Literally too hot to touch.So I think it's just a tradition or an old charter or something?
       
 (DIR) Post #AaitUm557LuRvBOITY by mcc@mastodon.social
       2023-10-13T04:24:54Z
       
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       @TomF @reedbeta my experience is not anyone else's. But my experience is that MacBooks work great for exactly 2.5 years and then suddenly overnight develop multiple horrible, unfixable power/battery problems and oh well!!! Guess it's time to buy a new MacBook!!?
       
 (DIR) Post #AaitUm8ysr1q7HDPYO by reedbeta@mastodon.gamedev.place
       2023-10-13T03:56:21Z
       
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       @TomF @mcc So yeah... Would not recommend. I often wish I'd returned it during the window but it's too late.
       
 (DIR) Post #AaitUmreCml2Lo75Au by TomF@mastodon.gamedev.place
       2023-10-13T04:39:48Z
       
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       @mcc @reedbeta This is also my experience with iPhones. FUNNY THAT.
       
 (DIR) Post #AaitUnmMnu7zBieNaC by T045T@scl.zmb.cm
       2023-10-13T09:27:27Z
       
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       @TomF @mcc @reedbeta reading those stories makes me believe I‘m haunted by reverse gremlins… I‘m on an iPhone SE (2020) that works fine, and a mid-2015 15“ MBP, which  is also okay.Well, except for the fact that Apple really doesn’t like you running third-party SSDs in macbooks these days, which means any OS update bricks the macbook 🙃. But with the stock SSD it would just soldier on, I‘m certain.
       
 (DIR) Post #AaitUoK2mh4AsAPH4i by reedbeta@mastodon.gamedev.place
       2023-10-13T03:59:42Z
       
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       @TomF @mcc (I also talked to their support about these problems and their response was essentially "uhh maybe reinstalling Windows will help")
       
 (DIR) Post #AajCcjyOjinopVmDa4 by mcc@mastodon.social
       2023-10-13T13:01:41Z
       
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       @T045T @TomF @reedbeta I think my MacBook would start acting normal again if I just replaced the battery, but Apple discontinued the battery shockingly quickly so no official service center will do this for me
       
 (DIR) Post #AajFP0TWsvZdooTsrQ by T045T@scl.zmb.cm
       2023-10-13T13:32:59Z
       
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       @mcc @TomF @reedbeta ah, well, nevertheless.Stuff like that (and the *absurd* prices they charge for SSD storage and RAM) is what finally got me to jump ship to a Framework. A Framework preorder, anyway…
       
 (DIR) Post #Ac6ldPeZTlpQwloubA by amgine@mstdn.ca
       2023-10-11T17:20:29Z
       
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       @mcc also, Puri.sm? I purchased a #Librem 13 which worked well. Not stellar, but good enough build quality.#Purism has done some world-changing things, and their #PureOS PureOS.net is ‘purer’ than #Debian. They upstream everything which can be. (The #convergent focus means you are almost certainly already using some of their #code.)But unit price is how they pay to improve the #Linux community software. Also, the #L13 does not survive saltwater immersion test.