Post Aabp96jk2fxsHP4dfc by wigbert@mastodon.world
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(DIR) Post #Aabn4WCnisnBugLlXE by ZekuZelalem@dair-community.social
2023-10-09T20:52:38Z
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🧵 Hey all! This is a new account, I'm still Zecharias Zelalem, freelance journalist and aspiring OSINTer providing news and analysis on the Horn of Africa for a variety of international media outlets. For the past year or so, I posted via @zekuzelalem@journa.host, but I've transitioned away from that instance. I'll be posting from this account from now on. After recent changes on the journa dot host instance, I had no choice but to set up elsewhere. Hope to continue exchanges and friendships here.
(DIR) Post #Aabn4XGjljXFDBCQJE by ZekuZelalem@dair-community.social
2023-10-09T20:59:22Z
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When I left Twitter, I joined the Journa server primarily because it was run by journalists with verifiable credentials who were keen on creating a safe, clean space for journalists to interact free of the toxicity that was ubiquitous on Twitter. I'm still grateful to the likes of Evan Urquhart and Adam Davidson who administered the instance and never let us down in that regard. Journa was a refreshing change from what we had grown accustomed to, especially in the wake of the Musk takeover.
(DIR) Post #Aabn4YCAKDTM5I4Hp2 by ZekuZelalem@dair-community.social
2023-10-09T21:07:40Z
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Last week, the Journa server was taken over by new management. None of us were notified, and I found out when server updates caused account to freeze for a few hours.The instance has now been taken over by a "Jeff Brown" from Newsie. Now, I have no idea who he is and have no ill will towards him. But the individual is not a journalist. I couldn't find anything on him online that would suggest that he would be trustworthy enough to oversee management of Mastodon's largest journalism instances.
(DIR) Post #Aabn4a4RLuTttuT93g by ZekuZelalem@dair-community.social
2023-10-09T21:13:41Z
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Just as you wouldn't expect a doctor's forum to be run by someone who never went to medical school, or a gardeners' club to be run by someone who has never pulled weeds before, I find it unacceptable that a platform for journalists, including many who left Twitter due to trolling, slander, death threats...would be run by someone who has never worked in our field. How would I be certain that someone would uphold journalism ethics and values if they haven't walked a mile in our shoes?
(DIR) Post #Aabn4c1g59SZxvBy1w by ZekuZelalem@dair-community.social
2023-10-09T21:20:47Z
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Coincidentally, a number of fediverse friends & I engaged in discussion a month ago about a journalism verification portal that was set up by the very same individual. I had expressed shock at how some of the most renowned journalists in the game, permitted him to become the authority figure for establishing our journalism credentials on Mastodon...even though none of us could verify his own. Imagine my shock to learn that this individual had since taken over the server.https://journa.host/@zekuzelalem/111065323361408802
(DIR) Post #Aabn4dyuoORG1vun0C by ZekuZelalem@dair-community.social
2023-10-09T21:29:18Z
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These concerns and more, are what convinced me to stay on Journa and not to consider "Newsie." Standards were upheld by actual journalists at Journa. I can't say the same for newsie, which as @fifilamoura and others pointed out, hosted the US based infamous climate change denying, far right extremist outlet known as Newsmax. At best, the individual took no precautions or was sloppy or worst, outlets like Newsmax are considered purveyors of journalism.https://circumstances.run/@amtiskaw/110437393480951772
(DIR) Post #Aabn4fmw5u2pdMKFbk by ZekuZelalem@dair-community.social
2023-10-09T21:46:07Z
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So Journa & Newsie, two of Mastodon's most prominent journalism servers and home to journalists from around the world seeking safer online havens...are overseen by Mr. Jeff's entity known as "Fourth Estate."I can't find anything solid on this Fourth Estate, which claims to be a non profit focused on press related issues.It has a Wikipedia page, citing dead links or Fourth Estate's own website for all of its questionable claims.Again, red flags, red flags.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Estate_Public_Benefit_Corporation
(DIR) Post #Aabn4hX3buX12gub8S by ZekuZelalem@dair-community.social
2023-10-09T21:53:12Z
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I think you get the point. I'm now on the @DAIR instance, which was founded by someone I consider a sister to me, and a team renowned globally for their commitment to online safety and ensuring the harms caused by big tech/AI don't get shoved under the rug. With my transition away from Journa dot host, I feel much more reassured about my Mastodon use. They may not be journalists, but I'm acquainted with some of the team and can vouch as being 100% uncompromising when it comes to online harm.
(DIR) Post #Aabn4jViFse1B6IYJk by ZekuZelalem@dair-community.social
2023-10-09T21:57:45Z
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But as a journalist, it would be immoral and extremely selfish for me to stay quiet after taking care of my personal needs, and not express my serious concerns and worry for the future of journalism safety on Mastodon, and for the friends and colleagues who remain connected to both instances. I feel very uneasy at how things are looking like for the press. This is the last thing I expected to see happen on a platform that marketed itself as a safe escape in the midst of the #TwitterMigration.
(DIR) Post #Aabn4lL9S7NuqvN98K by ZekuZelalem@dair-community.social
2023-10-09T22:12:17Z
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Monitoring instances is no easy task. It requires commitment, finances and a dedicated team. I can understand if the team overseeing Journa decided that after a year, other parties should shoulder the burden. On top of your day job, family etc...you're dealing with the daily demand to clean a platform that threatens to be swarmed by fascists, trolls and racists if abandoned for even a day. I imagine it can be rigorous. But...journalists should have been notified.Not notifying us was wrong.
(DIR) Post #Aabn4n9WiJH4TRwtI8 by ZekuZelalem@dair-community.social
2023-10-09T22:16:11Z
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Personally, I'm not willing to compromise. I lived and worked in a country where journalism results in life sentences. As a result, I spent years in exile, investigating war crimes and it came with maneuvering past cyber lynch mobs, daily death threats, and slander both online, offline and on regime propaganda TV. Forgive me if I'm unwilling to gamble or risk anything. I can do without the uncertainty.
(DIR) Post #Aabn4osEJacvoNs6bo by ZekuZelalem@dair-community.social
2023-10-09T22:24:10Z
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Lastly, considering that journalists are by nature people who question and dig away at anything screaming a lack of transparency, I'm surprised that only a few (if any?) journalists have sounded alarms or protested.Journalists flocked to Mastodon last year, and a year later, there's barely a whimper as one man's silent takeover/ownership of journalism platforms and even a verification tool here has him establish a monopoly, despite none of you knowing anything about him.You shock me!FIN.
(DIR) Post #Aabn87534y5t9DRDua by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-10-09T23:13:06.857064Z
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@ZekuZelalem that was really mebwaaahahahhahaaa
(DIR) Post #AabnFy70J81beJ6A4W by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-10-09T23:14:30.014127Z
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@ZekuZelalem the only way to be sure this does not ever happen is to run your own instance.fediverse works, centralization is dead.
(DIR) Post #AabnOrnFAaCues6AuO by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-10-09T23:16:08.452132Z
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@4ae515ec75aada2816397dda84cc63c2ca1e2b27bf49f173abda9764b9bde35b @ZekuZelalem the fediverse is haunted by the specter of jeff posters
(DIR) Post #AabnlO6JjOwXEHl7S4 by mia@freespeechextremist.com
2023-10-09T23:20:20.868581Z
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@ZekuZelalem Journalists are subhumans.
(DIR) Post #AabnsqlPYuKK9WXSe8 by sarvo@novoa.nagoya
2023-10-09T23:21:41.240Z
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@mia@freespeechextremist.com @ZekuZelalem@dair-community.social that's detrimental for subhumans
(DIR) Post #AaboQbLvMmZ0CZiA08 by NonPlayableClown@postnstuffds.lol
2023-10-09T23:27:47.490221Z
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Now Jeff can get new bed sheets.Huzzah!
(DIR) Post #AaboRZVZi1vylsgiNE by galena@paws.moe
2023-10-09T23:27:57.152493Z
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@ZekuZelalem Journos have literally never been welcome on fedi. We're an anti-journo community. Keep moving, journo scum.
(DIR) Post #AaboyvLpWEuO4W28IK by boud@framapiaf.org
2023-10-09T23:14:36Z
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@ZekuZelalem 1/2Have you tried @ mentioning some of the journa.host people who know you well? They're probably new to taking responsibility for coordinators/moderators FOSS style. GAFAM encourages passivity; FOSS encourages responsibility.Seems like @opencollective might want to check if Brown's journa.host management is consistent with opencollective's ethics.@jeff has a page there [1] and has a right to publicly answer this thread too.[1] https://opencollective.com/jeff-brown
(DIR) Post #AaboywBwOUamg8PkWG by boud@framapiaf.org
2023-10-09T23:17:22Z
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@ZekuZelalem 2/2Profile as a venture capitalist: "Brown has been an angel investor in South Florida through various venues, including Honey Tree Holdings, Startup Quest, the Digital Venture Capital Association and Palm Beach Angels Inc. He is past director of the Gold Coast Venture Capital Association. He has also work [sic] with various nonprofits to fund innovative journalism projects around the world." [2][2] (disable javascript!) https://www.bizjournals.com/southflorida/news/2015/10/21/fiu-looks-to-bring-entrepreneurship-to-journalism.html@opencollective @jeff
(DIR) Post #Aabp1aeevL0gkh703E by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-10-09T23:34:01.498752Z
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@boud @ZekuZelalem @opencollective @jeff lol
(DIR) Post #Aabp95wSzsY7oa1Hrk by jpaskaruk@growers.social
2023-10-09T21:49:22Z
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@ZekuZelalem Is there nothing in the way of a professional guild of journalists, a union maybe, left?If not, isn't it about time anyone who believes in the mission of Independent Journalism, form such a body? And isn't it time for that body, to do things like *establish distribution channels* that cannot be seized by any blowdried scumbag with money?
(DIR) Post #Aabp96jk2fxsHP4dfc by wigbert@mastodon.world
2023-10-09T22:44:07Z
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@jpaskaruk @ZekuZelalem the German #Journalism Union - @DJV & some others are using the US-non-profit instance http://federated.press …
(DIR) Post #Aabp97xbUceC4gZDuq by ZekuZelalem@dair-community.social
2023-10-09T22:54:52Z
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@wigbert @jpaskaruk @DJV Interesting. I came across the instance, but I couldn't come across examples of the admin's journalism work, or an example where journo ethics might be tested. I decided to pass on it, but not out of fear/suspicions as is the case with my former server.
(DIR) Post #Aabp989In80Mey2Z9M by jpaskaruk@growers.social
2023-10-09T22:23:29Z
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@ZekuZelalem We're not selling fucking newsprint on the corner anymore wtf are they still letting this shit happen for#lyrics
(DIR) Post #Aabp98rc8NRysOlxDc by wigbert@mastodon.world
2023-10-09T23:18:16Z
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@ZekuZelalem @jpaskaruk @DJV yes, the admin @woodis not a journalist, but an engineer yet, even though I understand your analogy with the doctor & the gardener, I do think an instance for journalists could be run by a tech-person, if the person is fully aware of the specific dangers (which this server may partly do with the “invitation-only” hurdle …
(DIR) Post #Aabp99oSbaWPouIwwS by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-10-09T23:35:38.777173Z
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@wigbert @ZekuZelalem @jpaskaruk @DJV @wood i love how immediately the infighting occurs as the total retard war wages onward
(DIR) Post #AabpSJhS4OnvzCA7xA by boud@framapiaf.org
2023-10-09T23:38:38Z
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@ZekuZelalem "I'm surprised that only a few (if any?) journalists have sounded alarms or protested."It's up to your colleagues to defend themselves :). But just thinking aloud:- journa.host has ~700 or so people- probably 90% or so are from rich countries- 630 * 100 EUR/year = 63 kEUR/yrSo if most of the journa.host people from rich countries cancrowdsource together 100 EUR each per year, they should be able to fund a geek to run and maintain a mastodonserver fulltime.@jeff
(DIR) Post #AabpcVDA7q6CaGqrU8 by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-10-09T23:41:00.140333Z
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@boud @ZekuZelalem a single instance costs about 20 bux a month. it's worth it if you are actually doing journalism and not a wankstain shitrag blogger spreading gossip for billionaires.
(DIR) Post #AabpzEOCpp8V4Xr4oi by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-10-09T23:45:07.203592Z
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@wigbert @ZekuZelalem @jpaskaruk @DJV @wood haha his name is "wood"
(DIR) Post #AabqE7PB5JLNkqPNya by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-10-09T23:47:47.463619Z
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@galena @ZekuZelalem they get to stay but only if they embrace the culture of anime shitposting.
(DIR) Post #AabqKYNBjPpb8DXvlo by meowski@fluf.club
2023-10-09T23:49:03.459065Z
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@ZekuZelalem >journalists are by nature peoplei disagree
(DIR) Post #AabrAATBqe143UxuOe by waltercool@pl.slash.cl
2023-10-09T23:58:23.807879Z
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@ZekuZelalem @wigbert @jpaskaruk @DJV If you want the mainstream media stuff, follow people from journa.host, but most instances have them banned or removed.At Fediverse, you may have better results following experts at different fields instead of content creators workers for media conglomerates.At difference of Twitter or Facebook/Instagram, here we debate stuff instead of following the opinion of some corporate worker who pays big sum money to appear in your feeds.
(DIR) Post #Aac5CaUBUUSqgETiIy by timnitGebru@dair-community.social
2023-10-10T02:31:04Z
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@galena @ZekuZelalem What exactly is wrong with y'all. First its the CWs tone policing Black people, and then this shit. SMH.
(DIR) Post #Aac5CbkWnD8EbD8HQ0 by galena@paws.moe
2023-10-10T02:35:43.091189Z
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@timnitGebru @ZekuZelalem You are literally evil.
(DIR) Post #Aac8y67PzwpOGDAxs0 by xdydx@mastodon.social
2023-10-10T03:10:06Z
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@timnitGebru @ZekuZelalem @galena is a shit-poster and thinks it's funny to rile people up.Block and move on. And do not let the lonely neckbesrd speak for us.Mastodon needs needs more #journalists and less contemptible rats.
(DIR) Post #Aac8y6vkyn5smKjAKe by galena@paws.moe
2023-10-10T03:17:55.422660Z
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@xdydx @timnitGebru @ZekuZelalem ok fascist
(DIR) Post #Aac9x2ln3zwXXT7YJc by komputernik@mastodon.world
2023-10-10T03:22:15Z
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@galena @timnitGebru @ZekuZelalem The fuck is wrong with you?
(DIR) Post #Aac9x3nFG4hWiGoEDo by galena@paws.moe
2023-10-10T03:28:56.447837Z
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@komputernik @timnitGebru @ZekuZelalem Nothing.
(DIR) Post #AacCo7a26p4HiL3gky by 8petros@petroskowo.pl
2023-10-10T03:56:28Z
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Any explanation from previous admins?
(DIR) Post #AacPlFXvKm6WxJ26bo by 8petros@petroskowo.pl
2023-10-10T06:25:39Z
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The only way to keep integrity in fediverse is to keep the instance administration under user's community control, in a form of a cooperative or civic association. It needs community members to be active and decisive, while the admin role is technical only. Every other solution, especially giving admins any kind of ownership, is a recipe for disaster - as we can see here.
(DIR) Post #AacUNccQOmPnKogu8W by katzentratschen@mastodon.social
2023-10-10T07:10:50Z
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@ZekuZelalem I ran into him last year when he defended an obviously fake Reuters' account at Newsie before suspending it one day later. This summer he popped up again in my TL asking for donations to maintain hosting Newsie after the end of Fourth Estate's "funding". On request, he claimed hosting Newsie had become more and more expensive as big players like Forbes don't pay for his service. Needless to say he claims it's an official account.https://honeytree.social/@jeff/110822547304312437
(DIR) Post #AacUNdZGrzUEHKDtrM by 8petros@petroskowo.pl
2023-10-10T07:16:15Z
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Mutli-X Serial Entrepreneur | Greybeard Technologist | Angel Investor | Values Driven Mentor and Board MemberSounds like a pocket version of M*sk. How come he could even get close to an independent journalism instance?
(DIR) Post #AacXVxqXes0pLmxoSe by tyil@fedi.tyil.nl
2023-10-10T07:52:58.134Z
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@ZekuZelalem@dair-community.social If only #Mastodon users would learn from their #Twitter mistakes, stop trying to all hoard together on a single instance. The #Fediverse is federated by nature, it encourages lots of small servers, and it seems everyone except the Mastodon userbase understands this very simple idea.Stop trying to be the largest instance, and stop supporting those trying to become large instances. Stick to instances hosted by people you know or otherwise trust, and promote the idea of thousands of small servers rather than a couple of huge ones.Any instance over 200 users is too big.
(DIR) Post #Aacqd2g3zeBpUQ9QW0 by LordFireCrotch@p.sugar-free-jazz.com
2023-10-10T11:22:31.651778Z
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I definitely don't disagree here.But there is a real "barrier" to entry when it comes to fedi.To start your own instance you have to have some level of technical knowledge and be willing to administer the instance, all on your own dime.A lot of people don't have/want the knowledge and just want to login to an instance.They honestly probably don't even care about the fedi as a whole and just want a lot of people to hear what they have to say.
(DIR) Post #Aacqd3PRGwUBl9NfF2 by tyil@fedi.tyil.nl
2023-10-10T11:27:07.865Z
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@LordFireCrotch@p.sugar-free-jazz.com That barrier is a good thing. When you remove all barriers to entry to a given community, the community will turn to shit. There's nothing bonding these people together anymore, and there's no collective ideology that binds them. This happens constantly in communities that fight for the lack of any sort of barrier, and its why people tend to find more niche communities. There may be less people, but all the people there are more interesting to them.
(DIR) Post #Aacr2nt3beUd9BVqzI by dameoutlaw@mstdn.social
2023-10-10T11:30:34Z
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@tyil @LordFireCrotch That is easy for you to say, but many people in the real world were not allowed in many communities for nefarious reasons. Barrier to entry doesn't automatically equal good, exclusion throughout history has often been very harmful and intentional
(DIR) Post #Aacr2oXpA56RBcaPWy by tyil@fedi.tyil.nl
2023-10-10T11:31:42.002Z
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@dameoutlaw@mstdn.social @LordFireCrotch@p.sugar-free-jazz.com Why is it easy for me to say?Barrier to entry doesn't automatically equal goodI'm not saying that, but here on the Fedi I do think a small barrier isn't bad. People who care not about the problems the Fediverse is solving, and are only excarbating the problems we try to get away from, are best left outside.
(DIR) Post #Aacrjnozj3KlOc7Fmy by LordFireCrotch@p.sugar-free-jazz.com
2023-10-10T11:38:01.297446Z
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A lot of people don't want to bond. They don't want to converse.They want their words to be heard. That's all. They don't want the back and forth, just the knowledge that what's going on between their ears is "agreeable" by the number of likes they get
(DIR) Post #Aacrjs4Nvm1OZVLbKi by tyil@fedi.tyil.nl
2023-10-10T11:39:27.724Z
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@LordFireCrotch@p.sugar-free-jazz.com If you don't want to bond or converse, don't talk publicly. Making public posts invites people to read, and interact.What you're looking for is a diary.
(DIR) Post #Aacv53obkwGmwYlODI by dj@poster.place
2023-10-10T12:17:00.610Z
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@timnitGebru@dair-community.social @galena@paws.moe @ZekuZelalem@dair-community.social Can't we all just get along?
(DIR) Post #Aad0FfIfk5srrqhZC4 by whynothugo@fosstodon.org
2023-10-10T13:05:06Z
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@tyil @ZekuZelalem I think the big problem is how Mastodon itself scales.Almost every time that I hear that someone runs their own instance, they mention how resource-demanding it is, and how heavy it is to run one. Running an instance for others is an even bigger commitment, and there's no easy way to delegate a domain to an existing instance.All this leads to making the most convenient thing: "few very large instances". People always go for convenience.
(DIR) Post #Aad0FgEoFwO8m9tzoO by tyil@fedi.tyil.nl
2023-10-10T13:14:57.253Z
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@whynothugo@fosstodon.org @ZekuZelalem@dair-community.social Almost every time that I hear that someone runs their own instance, they mention how resource-demanding it isIt is true #Mastodon is very resource intensive, and it scales poorly to boot. This is why all those large instances require quite a bit in donations to keep going. Smaller instances (especially those not running Mastodon) are much cheaper to operate. If you're under 10 users, you can likely just host it on a raspi in your home without too much worries.Running an instance for others is an even bigger commitmentThere's several companies doing this, I'm sure.there's no easy way to delegate a domain to an existing instanceI'm not sure if this is desired either, if someone hosts an instance for you, you should simply have a subdomain point to their servers, much like with any other hosted web application.All this leads to making the most convenient thingThen being on the Fediverse is already a contradiction, no? I keep hearing how difficult the Fediverse is to use and understand, and how hard it is to host an instance. #Twitter still exists, even if they're trying to rebrand in the dumbest way possible, but it's super duper easy and you won't have to think about anything for more than half a second!
(DIR) Post #Aad0QJiML0ak6dnOrY by whynothugo@fosstodon.org
2023-10-10T13:16:32Z
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@tyil @ZekuZelalem I don't quite understand what point you're trying to make.
(DIR) Post #Aad0QLBoqxkcgIaRQ8 by tyil@fedi.tyil.nl
2023-10-10T13:16:52.692Z
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@whynothugo@fosstodon.org @ZekuZelalem@dair-community.social On what specifically?
(DIR) Post #Aad0hzzyNbuAAeSwTo by tyil@fedi.tyil.nl
2023-10-10T13:20:05.221Z
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@whynothugo@fosstodon.org @ZekuZelalem@dair-community.social I'm arguing that people should use more and smaller instances, rather than concentrating on a handful of big ones, as that goes against the spirit of the #Fediverse. #Mastodon not scaling well isn't a problem of the Fediverse at large, that's just Mastodon being bad. There's various alternatives out there, some which have even existed for longer than Mastodon has! The ones I've tried so far have been much easier to set up than Mastodon, come with more features, and perform better.
(DIR) Post #Aad1Cb4983PJow0Yr2 by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2023-10-10T13:25:31.477773Z
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@tyil @whynothugo @ZekuZelalem You really don't even need to set up an instance - it's quite easy to find a small instances hosted by a based GNU hackers and join it - which is what I did.
(DIR) Post #Aad1JtJLgy8eQyb5Iu by whynothugo@fosstodon.org
2023-10-10T13:22:45Z
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@tyil @ZekuZelalem > I'm arguing that people should use more and smaller instances, rather than concentrating on a handful of big onesI agree completely on this; I'm pointing out the blockers of what makes this unconvenient for most people.> There's various alternatives out there, some which have even existed for longer than Mastodon has!Which ones? Please don't say "a solution exists" without providing names or links or clues pointing to it.
(DIR) Post #Aad1Ju4UrfqunCejnE by tyil@fedi.tyil.nl
2023-10-10T13:26:55.976Z
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@whynothugo@fosstodon.org @ZekuZelalem@dair-community.social Which ones#Pleroma and #Misskey seem to be the most popular, and ones I've ran myself before, both have several forks going too if you want some specific customization. If I were to set up a new instance today I'd most likely go for #Akkoma.You can find more on fediverse.party, but I'm sure there's other sources with even bigger lists of available software.Please don't say "a solution exists" without providing names or links or clues pointing to it.I didn't come from #Mastodon, so to me it seems very strange that people would think that is all the Fediverse is, but I can understand that Mastodon users have this idea. Mastodon is doing its best to ensure people are left with the idea that it is the Fediverse, sadly.
(DIR) Post #Aad1eXBT9gOBtCkrjM by tyil@fedi.tyil.nl
2023-10-10T13:30:40.309Z
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@Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @whynothugo@fosstodon.org @ZekuZelalem@dair-community.social Not everyone individually needs to host one, no, but there are people needed to host them, and to those people specifically it may matter very well how easy and resource-intensive it is to host a Fediverse instance. And sadly there are also many people who hate GNU, they are unlikely to desire to join an instance hosted by a based GNU hacker.
(DIR) Post #Aad3RMbFOadZCseyLQ by FinchHaven@sfba.social
2023-10-10T13:33:55Z
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@whynothugo "I'm pointing out the blockers of what makes this unconvenient for most people."Makes generalized statement without providing list of specifics"Which ones? Please don't say "a solution exists" without providing names or links or clues pointing to it"Criticizes generalized statement for lack of specificsYeahThat's how it goes on the #Fediverse cc @tyil @ZekuZelalem
(DIR) Post #Aad3RNgbMAVwZmAlKS by expert@buddyverse.xyz
2023-10-10T13:50:05Z
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@FinchHaven @whynothugo @tyil @ZekuZelalem sorry to interrupt, but I would like to name here #Friendica , #Pleroma and #Diaspora . All are a part of #Fediverse .
(DIR) Post #Aad6a2rCT3BGRcx8wi by gunchleoc@mastodon.scot
2023-10-10T09:14:54Z
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@galena You obviously have not bothered to spend even a second looking at @ZekuZelalem 's work. How is uncovering that refugees are being mowed down at a border evil?@timnitGebru
(DIR) Post #Aad6a3qWn2ElVpe7XM by galena@paws.moe
2023-10-10T14:25:52.627265Z
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@gunchleoc @ZekuZelalem @timnitGebru I was talking to the google employee. Also I didn't bother reading the thread because journo host sucks, it's a scummy instance full of scumbag journos, which is why it was massed blocked by a large portion of fedi.
(DIR) Post #Aad8QsOKD2f9HuCcRU by whynothugo@fosstodon.org
2023-10-10T14:33:03Z
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@expert @tyil @ZekuZelalemCan any of these interact with regular Mastodon posts? E.g.: can I use any of these any continue following the same people?I didn't know that Diaspora used the same protocol -- I recall hearing about them around ten years ago, it's cool to see that it's still around and alive.
(DIR) Post #Aad8QtDj7vmNrKFfYu by tyil@fedi.tyil.nl
2023-10-10T14:46:36.956Z
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@whynothugo@fosstodon.org @expert@buddyverse.xyz @ZekuZelalem@dair-community.social #Friendica and #Pleroma can for sure, I'm not entirely sure if #Diaspora also supports the #ActivityPub protocol. ActivityPub is the underlying technology that Mastodon uses for federation too, and existed before Mastodon become a thing!
(DIR) Post #AadFC58NFWIi8zdNXE by expert@buddyverse.xyz
2023-10-10T14:58:18Z
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@tyil @whynothugo @ZekuZelalem just to note: Friendica is the only Fediverse project that supports Diaspora protocol.
(DIR) Post #Aaecrc6i3LBCNwaXp2 by fla@mastodon.social
2023-10-11T08:00:53Z
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@expert @tyil @whynothugo @ZekuZelalem that is not true. Hubzilla and SocialHome also support it.
(DIR) Post #Aaectrwc8qI25AwSWW by fla@mastodon.social
2023-10-11T08:01:14Z
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@tyil @whynothugo @ZekuZelalem @expert diaspora does not support ActivityPub, and does not plan to support it.
(DIR) Post #AafKUzMBqCZlocqpd2 by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-10-11T16:11:07.289603Z
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@timnitGebru @galena @ZekuZelalem it's not hard to be a good person just ignore the trolls and it is trivial.
(DIR) Post #AafKgBNFVBmmGsgTdA by ZekuZelalem@dair-community.social
2023-10-09T23:20:31Z
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@boud I reached out to the founder to express both my gratitude with the year of service, and my disappointment with what has transpired. I expressed my concerns with the takeover, and asked if they could provide me with any reason why my fears might be unfounded. I didn't get a direct response to that last question. Mr. Jeff can certainly address my queries, but 1/ wasn't about to wait around until he did and 2/ according to the people in the replies, he dodges such queries.
(DIR) Post #AafKgCIK4zRJ7tO3ai by Mary625@mstdn.social
2023-10-10T02:47:33Z
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@ZekuZelalem @boud I can't speak to anything but my personal experience. I started on the fediverse on newsie. I donated when I could and $5 a month. Not much, I admit, but as much as I could afford. Jeff, who I seem to be blocked from tagging, refused to answer why I was suddenly banned (sorry, not the right term) without notice, acknowledgment or explanation. He responded to one email saying he's not responsible for the day to day, and that was it. (1/x)
(DIR) Post #AafKgEGGlaz9E6RRfU by Mary625@mstdn.social
2023-10-10T02:48:30Z
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@ZekuZelalem @boud No admins or anyone moderating newsie would respond to me. Still never have and it's about 2 months. I was never able to download my posts and transfer or even recieve a response as to whyThat was not long after Jeff was again saying he couldn't continue newsie because it cost $2300 a month to run. He was at 3 versions behind on what the fediverse required. When he was questioned by an admin of a different instance, his response was nasty and he blocked that instance(2/x)
(DIR) Post #AafKgFDpCAckCoJ0Uq by Mary625@mstdn.social
2023-10-10T02:48:56Z
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@ZekuZelalem @boud Newsie and other servers of Jeff's have been blocked or muted by several instances for multiple reasons including transpohobia. Found that out when I got to this instance. I wish you luck. ✌🏻(3/3)
(DIR) Post #AafKgG63wW0cv1gK2K by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-10-11T16:13:06.002205Z
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@Mary625 @ZekuZelalem @boud purity test failed! lmao everyone knows why you guys block them, they must actually being doing good honest work if there is such a big threat perceived by them existing that wikipedia goons write rumors on their shitrag wiki
(DIR) Post #AafKnwXUXcmSZwAwsK by jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org
2023-10-11T16:14:32.518006Z
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@Mary625 @ZekuZelalem @boud again, single user instances make this a non issue.bo reason not to tbh
(DIR) Post #AafWjVyAaGAeSwJCwy by ZekuZelalem@dair-community.social
2023-10-11T11:02:29Z
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@tyil this definitely does appear to be the case. I don't know, I think it's the fact that most of us were new here and took comfort in numbers. That and the fact that the first thing many of us did when we landed here was to look for colleagues and friends, who had converged in one of several locations. Lessons learned of course.
(DIR) Post #Aaj5l3g6esVSa6EwwS by expert@buddyverse.xyz
2023-10-11T13:32:59Z
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@fla @tyil @whynothugo @ZekuZelalem then how on the Earth Diaspora counts as a part of Fediverse?????
(DIR) Post #Aaj5l561O0pWylN9yS by fla@mastodon.social
2023-10-13T10:08:38Z
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@expert @tyil @whynothugo @ZekuZelalem Back in the days the fediverse was built on both the diaspora* protocol called "The Federation" and the OStatus protocol (used by GNU Social). Mastodon was initially built on OStatus. A working group was created at the W3C to work on a standard. After lot of discussions ActivityPub and ActivityStreams were standardized. But they were considered too flexible by the key developers of diaspora* to provide a consistent user experience so not implemented.