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(DIR) Post #AaOuI2LBN4DbbZ3qGO by wiseguyeddie@stranger.social
2023-10-03T17:48:51Z
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LOL at media who speak of "centrist" republicans as if they actually exist.Sincerely,Sasquatch#uspol #uspolitics #media #congress #mccarthy
(DIR) Post #AaOuI6chRsbit3Ht7g by TruthSandwich@qoto.org
2023-10-03T17:53:15Z
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@wiseguyeddieThere are full-MAGA R’s and mostly-MAGA R’s.Sincerely,The Abominable Snowsandwich
(DIR) Post #AaOuIAuvU3Z0CjqV5U by BigMcLargeHuge@mstdn.social
2023-10-03T17:57:17Z
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@TruthSandwich @wiseguyeddie All Rs = MAGA. I know this because they all voted for Orange Jabba. What they most certainly did not do is vote for sanity. Same shit, different wrapper.
(DIR) Post #AaOuIQH6NtDNprKvEe by TruthSandwich@qoto.org
2023-10-03T17:59:39Z
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@BigMcLargeHuge @wiseguyeddieSure, but some are somehow worse than others.
(DIR) Post #AaOuIYXLfMxpSZ00fY by BigMcLargeHuge@mstdn.social
2023-10-03T18:00:07Z
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@TruthSandwich @wiseguyeddie Agreed, but none are worthy of anything other than scorn.
(DIR) Post #AaOuId3Os8ylT81fBQ by TruthSandwich@qoto.org
2023-10-03T18:01:14Z
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@BigMcLargeHuge @wiseguyeddieSure, but if McCarthy had any sense of self-preservation, he’d have compromised with the D’s and kept his position.
(DIR) Post #AaOuIdmm9RH7jrFtuS by freemo@qoto.org
2023-10-03T18:02:06Z
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@TruthSandwichI agree.. which is why I also feel very few Ds have any sense of self preservation, because, like the GOP, compromise is not at all their strong suite.@BigMcLargeHuge @wiseguyeddie
(DIR) Post #AaOuRmAQMIV0L6fmLo by BigMcLargeHuge@mstdn.social
2023-10-03T18:03:57Z
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@freemo @TruthSandwich @wiseguyeddie Compromise.. with whom?The people we can't trust as far as we can throw them?
(DIR) Post #AaOudD1kpjq6pX4Mls by freemo@qoto.org
2023-10-03T18:05:59Z
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@BigMcLargeHuge Literally anyone who disagrees with them in even the slightest iota of a detail... I've literally pointed out very minor criticisms od the DNC before, while int he same breath making it clear I hate the GOP and have had mobs with pitchforks as the result... If one thing is obvious it is that the DNC is not capable of compromise on any layer, and unreasonableness is an excuse they just use to label everyone that disagrees with them.@TruthSandwich @wiseguyeddie
(DIR) Post #AaOv3c9843PoGS6s2S by wiseguyeddie@stranger.social
2023-10-03T18:10:45Z
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@freemo I disagree with your take wholeheartedly. First, the republican party is a fascist criminal regime with NO desire to preserve or protect democracy. Two, the US has a policy of not negotiating with terrorists as the GOP has repeatedly proven itself to be (look at how the GOP is protecting the insurrectionists who tried to overthrow our government on Jan6)
(DIR) Post #AaOvOikwgSr6qVrXZw by freemo@qoto.org
2023-10-03T18:14:34Z
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@wiseguyeddie > I disagree with your take wholeheartedly. First, the republican party is a fascist criminal regime with NO desire to preserve or protect democracyHow is this disagreeing with me? That agrees 100% with what i said.> Two, the US has a policy of not negotiating with terrorists as the GOP has repeatedly proven itself to be (look at how the GOP is protecting the insurrectionists who tried to overthrow our government on Jan6)Ok, again how does this disagree with me. This again agrees 100% with what I said...Read what I said again then we can argue against what I said, rather than a fictitious argument I didnt say.
(DIR) Post #AaOvPY5bpOgi3MvGMq by freemo@qoto.org
2023-10-03T18:14:43Z
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@wiseguyeddie I disagree with your take wholeheartedly. First, the republican party is a fascist criminal regime with NO desire to preserve or protect democracyHow is this disagreeing with me? That agrees 100% with what i said. Two, the US has a policy of not negotiating with terrorists as the GOP has repeatedly proven itself to be (look at how the GOP is protecting the insurrectionists who tried to overthrow our government on Jan6)Ok, again how does this disagree with me. This again agrees 100% with what I said…Read what I said again then we can argue against what I said, rather than a fictitious argument I didnt say.
(DIR) Post #AaOwKX2wNWnfKBqWDA by wiseguyeddie@stranger.social
2023-10-03T18:25:01Z
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@freemo YOU literally wrote, "If one thing is obvious it is that the DNC is not capable of compromise on any layer." Be careful, your "both sides do it" is showing.
(DIR) Post #AaOwXoeeDsyThSokkK by freemo@qoto.org
2023-10-03T18:27:26Z
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@wiseguyeddie I certainly did say that. Where in there do you see the words GOP? Which was wholly the perspective you argued against.I even went on to give a personal example which in no way involved the gop..Be careful your dogma is showing.
(DIR) Post #AaOwuqg6ridWdWU5HU by wiseguyeddie@stranger.social
2023-10-03T18:31:33Z
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@freemo OH. Not ashamed of being dogmatic against those who would subvert democracy, so your attempt at an insult fell woefully short. Again, using your words espousing "bothsiderism". "Ds have any sense of self preservation, because, like the GOP, compromise is not at all their strong suite." I suggest you stop posting to me because, like trump, every time you post, you incriminate yourself.
(DIR) Post #AaOxSDGntGl2GBYaaO by freemo@qoto.org
2023-10-03T18:37:35Z
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@wiseguyeddie Why do you keep fantasisng about thi gs i didnt say and then argue against those fantasies rather than addressing what i said? How does it help arguing with yourself and pretending your arguibg witb me?Never said you hating the gop was the dogma... nice try though. The dogma was when i criticised the DNC for being able to comrpomise with even mild criticism is completely lacking... i said nothing about the gop.. your response however is QED to the very poi t i made.I did not debate that i proudly poi t out faults both tbe gop and dnc have. If you want to call that both sidism i dont mind. But you assuming that i am claiming the dnc and gop have to compromise is not what i said.. in fact both are lost causes as i said thry shoukd both be dissolved and not compromise at all.Regardless you arguing that the gop is bad doesnt in anyway disagree with my claim that the dnc is incapable of compromising with anyone (not just the gop) when criticized.You literally spent several threeads proving me right on this, QED. THANKS.
(DIR) Post #AaP0vA3TDrlKY6ocYS by freemo@qoto.org
2023-10-03T19:16:28Z
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@wiseguyeddie TL;Dr for anyone reading the threadMe: Both the DNC and the GOP lack any ability to compromise with anyone that criticizes them even a littlewise guy: NO we dont! <lists a bunch of reasons the GOP sucks> You are a GOPer, your bothsidism is showingMe: So my response to you not taking criticism is to prove me wrong by not taking criticism from me and lumping me in with the GOP?
(DIR) Post #AaP1BgmDKdzofPcoSm by wiseguyeddie@stranger.social
2023-10-03T19:19:25Z
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@freemo Me: You bore me
(DIR) Post #AaP1JazGjzaX1nV9qC by freemo@qoto.org
2023-10-03T19:20:53Z
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@wiseguyeddie I suppose thats one way to admit your wrong with out actually admitting your wrong...As far as dying on hills go you are almost as good at that as you are at compromising.
(DIR) Post #AaP1Zt1JSjLbacE3FY by wiseguyeddie@stranger.social
2023-10-03T19:23:50Z
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@freemo Uh... that's YOU'RE wrong... doc. It would probably serve you well to learn proper grammar before attempting to insult me. I have to admit, your foolish attempt did amuse me a little. bye
(DIR) Post #AaP20OZqkyDQzW1Kgi by freemo@qoto.org
2023-10-03T19:28:37Z
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@wiseguyeddie Ahh, going after typos... yes that will certainly make you look like the mature one in this conversation... good job. I see this is a battle I could never win against such towering intellect.
(DIR) Post #AaP26eopHejp6K0lto by wiseguyeddie@stranger.social
2023-10-03T19:29:46Z
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@freemo Glad you finally came to whatever senses you have... doc
(DIR) Post #AaP28uT24eUUDGtLMm by freemo@qoto.org
2023-10-03T19:30:08Z
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@wiseguyeddie You and me both... bullet dodged!
(DIR) Post #AaPHeC6m29xlDOr8E4 by freepeoplesfreepress@qoto.org
2023-10-03T22:23:54Z
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@freemo @TruthSandwich @BigMcLargeHuge @wiseguyeddieDear Dr. Freemo: People often ascribe a negative definition to the word “comprise,” politicians must be able to reach a workable consensus with the opposition political parties whereby they individually and collectively can effectively govern within the strictures of the Constitution of the United States. Compromise is essential in being able to hammer out political agreements in order to successfully maintain our Republic. I took the time to read the entire thread, I believe that people should utilize Stare Decisis, to stand by things decided,” politicians need to uphold constitutional legal precedent while being in the performance of their respective duties owed to “we the people.”Simply put, the founding fathers had to make political compromises in order to create and ratify the Constitution of the United States.Contemporary politicians cannot just ignore the essence of the founding fathers’ political compromises. Stare Decisis means also if my memory serves me correctly to call upon past decisions to testify on our behalf. We will cease to function as a viable nation if we fail to follow the precedents of our governing founding fathers!Sincerely, Monica Andrews, Editor-in-chief, #FreePeoplesFreePress News
(DIR) Post #AaPHsYdr3FFN9jB7Ls by freemo@qoto.org
2023-10-03T22:26:29Z
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@freepeoplesfreepress People often ascribe a negative definition to the word “comprise,”Ya know who have a negative definition of it? People and grouos incapable of comrpomise :)@TruthSandwich @BigMcLargeHuge @wiseguyeddie
(DIR) Post #AaPI07hH7Dedu9NyIS by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2023-10-03T22:27:54.293901Z
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@freemo @freepeoplesfreepress @TruthSandwich @BigMcLargeHuge @wiseguyeddie not all compromise is good. It is an ambiguous term on it's own.
(DIR) Post #AaPI8N79g4z22OQM52 by freemo@qoto.org
2023-10-03T22:29:21Z
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@thatguyoverthere No one claimed they need to compromise in all situations... what is it with people co fusing "any" and "all" qualifiers.@BigMcLargeHuge @freepeoplesfreepress @TruthSandwich @wiseguyeddie
(DIR) Post #AaPLsdXzDGfqBbj77g by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2023-10-03T23:11:22.325219Z
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@freemo @BigMcLargeHuge @freepeoplesfreepress @TruthSandwich @wiseguyeddie you said anyone with a negative view of compromise is incapable of it. Seems pretty all encompassing but ok.
(DIR) Post #AaPM0RNQLVoEl0VVr6 by freepeoplesfreepress@qoto.org
2023-10-03T23:12:43Z
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@freemo @thatguyoverthere @BigMcLargeHuge @TruthSandwich @wiseguyeddie In response to:"No one claimed they need to compromise in all situations... what is it with people co fusing "any" and "all" qualifiers."Dear Dr. Freemo: I was merely advancing the contention that comprise is an essential element to the functioning of Democracy. Our Republic is based upon the Principles of Democracy. If politicians fail to have a meeting of the minds, nothing gets done, politicians are at an impass. Government at some point will cease to function in the absence of political deals. I am not confusing any and all qualifiers when I argue that comprise is essential, if opposing political factions cannot work together, they must seek some form of compromise or the government will cease to function. There is nothing vague and ambiguous in what I am stating concerning political compromises. I believe Dr. Freemo that you have overlooked the most important aspects of effective government. That is for the politician to attempt to represent his/her constituents without compromise, unfortunately most of the time, the politician still has to make deals within his/her party or make deals with the opposite political party. So for all intents and purposes all politicians must seek compromises. Sincerely, Monica Andrews, Editor-in-chief, #FreePeoplesFreePress News
(DIR) Post #AaPM5HtN2NcOmxlGIi by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2023-10-03T23:13:39.457519Z
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@freepeoplesfreepress @freemo @BigMcLargeHuge @TruthSandwich @wiseguyeddie I think he was crying about me
(DIR) Post #AaPMIezOTS0uBhxHHc by freemo@qoto.org
2023-10-03T23:16:01Z
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@thatguyoverthere Not what I said.. you also have this bad habit of saying things I didnt say... here is what I sayd...> Ya know who have a negative definition of it? People and grouos incapable of comrpomise :)So I said that if you view the **definition** of compromise as negative, then you are incapable of it... In other words if you view compromise as a bad thing **by definition** then you are incapable of it.That is the "all" state I mentioned earlier, to simplify further if you see **all** compromise as negative you will be incapable of it.. this is almost so obvious as to not need saying, yet here you are trying to disagree with it and twisting it.What you are trying to say (and failing cause i didnt say it" is replace the "all" qualifier with "any".. you are trying to stick words in my mouth as if i said "if you see any instance of compromise as negative you are incapable of compromise"... that wasnt what i said yet somehow you insist on arguing it.Why you and others continually insist on hallucinating things people never said then pretending to argue with it as if they said it, even after they correct you multiple times, is just beyond absurd.@BigMcLargeHuge @freepeoplesfreepress @TruthSandwich @wiseguyeddie
(DIR) Post #AaPN2JU4lI5ooO4k0e by freemo@qoto.org
2023-10-03T23:24:17Z
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@freepeoplesfreepress That was directly as disinformation man, not you, sorry.@thatguyoverthere @BigMcLargeHuge @TruthSandwich @wiseguyeddie
(DIR) Post #AaPNCAxHKLUvFtRBr6 by freepeoplesfreepress@qoto.org
2023-10-03T23:26:05Z
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@freemo @thatguyoverthere @BigMcLargeHuge @TruthSandwich @wiseguyeddie Dear Dr. Freemo: I only clarified for everyone what I was trying to lucidly convey, I read every toot, I also decided to discuss my own opinion concerning compromise, I do not think I am hallucinating, I do believe that I may in fact be misunderstanding what you are actually conveying partly at times due to your writing style and my problems comprehending the English Language. Sincerely, Monica Andrews, Editor-in-chief, #FreePeoplesFreePress News
(DIR) Post #AaPNHU7FVzxY85dIZc by freemo@qoto.org
2023-10-03T23:27:01Z
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@freepeoplesfreepress I was not claiming you were hallucinating.. this comment was directed at disinformation, not you... you are good and as always have discussed things in intellectually honest ways...Dont worry your good.@thatguyoverthere @BigMcLargeHuge @TruthSandwich @wiseguyeddie