Post AaMvTYk0xTiAutoYL2 by grrrr_shark@supervolcano.angryshark.eu
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(DIR) Post #AaKqeXNPU4QVmbjkJ6 by Wolven@ourislandgeorgia.net
2023-10-01T19:02:13Z
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The Atlanta city council and mayor just doxxed and targeted over 100,000 people who signed a petition to put the stop cop city referendum on the ballot.100k people who were literally just like "the citizens of Atlanta should have a say in this" now exposed via the state to harassment & violence.https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/atlanta/names-more-than-100k-who-signed-petition-against-atlanta-public-safety-training-center-now-public/HF4VD4NTC5FFLAC3IXAB3F6NUU/?outputType=amp
(DIR) Post #AaKrxKypthcknClrZA by kaateeh@infosec.exchange
2023-10-01T19:16:43Z
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@Wolven This is awful.
(DIR) Post #AaKsPQd6UDJ2QG06Xg by rexi@mastodon.social
2023-10-01T19:21:51Z
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@Wolven if I were a young hacker in Atlanta, the thought of doxxing back would certainly come to mind.when one side blows through a an ethical barrier, the other will question the balance.
(DIR) Post #AaKsUbR9jTTvO9sazA by jaymiemoore@astrodon.social
2023-10-01T19:22:54Z
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@Wolven Government by the people…but not like that!I feel sorry for the mayor come Election Day. I hope they kept their resume updated.
(DIR) Post #AaKtt5RZv3pHMDJe4m by Nonya_Bidniss@mas.to
2023-10-01T19:38:36Z
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@Wolven This is exactly why I don't do petitions, I don't know what's going to happen to my information or how my position will come back to harm me in a future sociopolitical panopticon. But this is the first time I've heard of it actually happening.
(DIR) Post #AaLl2tjxaBmXWfTeEK by bencurthoys@mastodon.social
2023-10-02T05:34:14Z
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@Wolven I always thought the whole point of petitions was that they were public and verifiable? That they didn't just say "we have 100,000 anonymous who people who think X" which is basically just an opinion poll, but the much stronger "we have 100,000 named identifiable people who are prepared to publicly say X".
(DIR) Post #AaLmoWcsvJmTh1RTMW by Wolven@ourislandgeorgia.net
2023-10-02T05:54:05Z
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@bencurthoys Home addresses should not ever have been and definitely should not currently be considered "public" information.
(DIR) Post #AaLnIIgbJhc997NVRY by Wolven@ourislandgeorgia.net
2023-10-02T05:59:27Z
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If your takeaway from this is to argue a point that "technically, home addresses are public data so this is perfectly legal," then let me say it plain:Home addresses. Should not. Be considered. Public.Not ever, not once, never before, but especially not in a time of increasingly normalized political violence should a private citizen's home address where they and their families sleep and eat be considered or treated as "public data."People petition "against" cops (not really what the petition was, but that's how the ATL City Govt is painting it), and then the city makes a huge show of releasing petitioners' names, numbers, and addresses out into the world.If you're a person with knowledge and experience of this world as it currently is and has for some time been, and you don't see that for the threat it is, i really don't know what to say to you.
(DIR) Post #AaLoKnLcO9xwm5JiRE by ch0ccyra1n@emeraldsocial.org
2023-10-02T06:11:05Z
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@WolvenThis is why I refuse to sign petitions, ever.
(DIR) Post #AaLoeBXue00XKIJVTs by servelan@newsie.social
2023-10-02T06:14:37Z
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@Wolven We had a bit of a kerfuffle up here in WA about petition signers' names being made public; see the case @ SCOTUS here: https://www.oyez.org/cases/2009/09-559.
(DIR) Post #AaLoxqmFZUmihlOfZI by WestLawns@mastodon.social
2023-10-02T06:18:08Z
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@Wolven 30 years ago someone from my work would send me hate mail via my parents' address. Since then I have kept off the phone directory and public voter register.
(DIR) Post #AaLqUWmv0nAeDgr5ZQ by inventor@linuxrocks.online
2023-10-02T06:35:14Z
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@Wolven "DNA is public data because you leave it everywhere."
(DIR) Post #AaLr65h6C7MnC52pLU by Da_Gut@dice.camp
2023-10-02T06:42:02Z
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@Wolven interesting how in my lifetime phone numbers and addresses go from being publicly handed out (phone books) to private data. I would have signed this petition, if i was still in Georgia. (I left a year ago for Maine)
(DIR) Post #AaLs9kbWeEpEtgkMM4 by Tattooed_mummy@wandering.shop
2023-10-02T06:53:53Z
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@Wolven in who's world is "we know where you live" not a threat?! It's always been a threat!
(DIR) Post #AaLyWvIBfwQEQn8NIu by Netux@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-10-02T08:05:17Z
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@Wolven very cool thing work that is the claim that cops and government officials addresses would be public, even if they are "supposed" to be private.
(DIR) Post #AaMOZIpbj6TYp7Ys0e by anarchiv@todon.nl
2023-10-02T12:57:04Z
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@Wolven What a massive dick move. I have no words
(DIR) Post #AaMVf2F70z4gn8AhJg by foolishowl@social.coop
2023-10-02T14:16:31Z
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@Wolven I've seen governments singling out individuals or small groups for intimidation often enough, but trying to intimidate over a hundred thousand people at once is beyond what I've seen before. I'm hoping it's overconfidence. But in any case, it's a deliberate statement that the city government is directly opposed to democracy.
(DIR) Post #AaMZsIwmcSZkBFBIES by mkj@social.linux.pizza
2023-10-02T15:03:45Z
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@Wolven Even if home addresses and even phone numbers are considered public data, there's a HUGE difference between someone being able to get those piecemeal and that same someone getting a convenient list of 100K of them...#privacy
(DIR) Post #AaMfbwJra3AR5qYYsK by tofugolem@mastodon.social
2023-10-02T16:07:49Z
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@Wolven Everything about cop city is both heartbreaking and unsurprising. At this point, I have simply accepted that America has turned into East Germany.
(DIR) Post #AaMqbF4TTWikSPEDuS by Wolven@ourislandgeorgia.net
2023-10-02T18:11:06Z
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@hmoulding @marnanel Again: The addresses portion of that was wrongly decided and clearly promotes harm, especially in and era of increasing politically motivated violence."Legal" does not mean "good" or "Right."Have a good one.
(DIR) Post #AaMrqDBCtDXqtB4yvI by anarchopunk_girl@kolektiva.social
2023-10-02T18:24:55Z
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@Wolven Yes, and the thing is that it's not really the home addresses being published by themselves that is the reason this is bad — it's the fact that the city was publicly making known who specifically had voted a certain way on that petition *and* where they lived, when otherwise votes should be (and are) completely private affairs, and so even if those people's addresses had been public before, the way they had voted on the petition wouldn't have been known and associated with their addresses, and now it is. That's the key, that's what makes this so dangerous: it ties specific people and their homes *to* a contentious political thing
(DIR) Post #AaMvTYk0xTiAutoYL2 by grrrr_shark@supervolcano.angryshark.eu
2023-10-02T19:05:44Z
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@Wolven Yeah, this is the thing.My mom worked for the phone company in the ancient days. There were unlisted phone numbers and addresses for a reason. She knew lots of folks who had weird pseudonyms in the phone book because of stalking or abuse. Private addresses are intimate. They are a vulnerability. They need to be protected.Just because they used to publish that book doesn't make it OK now. You can argue quite legitimately that it was never OK.
(DIR) Post #AaN6G19Vd1P8TSU6wi by jaystephens@mastodon.social
2023-10-02T21:06:37Z
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@Wolven wow. In Australia that would be very, very illegal.
(DIR) Post #AaN8OajVQMmh3BXPdY by Andrea@furry.engineer
2023-10-02T21:22:59Z
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@Wolven Especially given when the same tactic is used of noting publicly available addresses of powerful public officials (for nuance sake, we're considered private citizens, not equivalent as they're making it out to be). For the purposes of organizing protests on public streets and sidewalks (where it is legal) outside their homes?They liken us to terrorists. Funny how one directional their logic always is.
(DIR) Post #AaNNMfAzQq1vZ2vq1w by ShadSterling@mastodon.social
2023-10-03T00:18:16Z
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@Wolven one of the many ways we discourage voting is that voter registration names and addresses are public. If you have a stalker it’s not safe to vote.
(DIR) Post #AaNRrBlZE9dF90qsRU by wcbdata@vis.social
2023-10-03T01:08:36Z
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@Wolven I think a lot of it is also context. An address being public, especially if optionally, as in phone listings, is relatively innocuous. Not perfect, and not immune to abuse, but generally manageable. There is a stark contrast between "Bob Smith lives at 123 Main St" and "Here are the homes of people whom we, a paramilitary force in charge of you, believe to be a threat." Just like "I spit on the sidewalk occasionally" is a long ways from "I am unemployable because of a gene variant"
(DIR) Post #AaNVh4igyDviD9wL8S by peter_timusk@mathstodon.xyz
2023-10-03T01:51:35Z
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@Wolven there were Bell Canada white pages where this info was public in the past.
(DIR) Post #AaNaCNKgDbBGjOtBPU by Wolven@ourislandgeorgia.net
2023-10-03T02:42:06Z
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Muting this thread now because some of you legit weary me.
(DIR) Post #AaNcUCB8cvC9G73DoO by aka_quant_noir@hcommons.social
2023-10-03T03:07:40Z
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@Wolven It's a threat for sure. And if they weaponize this information, they shouldn't complain if the public weaponizes it *right back.* Governments have us all doxxed. But we know where they live too. Power is a two way street.
(DIR) Post #AaOUxgblxqgzYc1JtA by kevinteljeur@mastodon.online
2023-10-03T13:18:05Z
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@Wolven Oh shit!