Post AaMekUJEzTY4sEmGo4 by fbievan@social.linux.pizza
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(DIR) Post #AaMGjeAkR8xOH2s50S by finlaydag33k@social.linux.pizza
2023-10-02T11:29:34Z
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>Get invited to give lecture at a special education school on recommendation of friend.>Start the lecture with "good morning, young ladies and gentlemen".>Get mail this morning regarding a complaint.>Complaint was that I wasn't "inclusive to LGBTQ people" by saying "young ladies and gentlemen" at the start and only using "Alice", "Bob" and "Eve" with "he/him" and "she/her" pronouns, causing "serious harm"...I'm *really* starting to fear for the future of education...
(DIR) Post #AaMKIZXLxkYZtZn2MS by fbievan@social.linux.pizza
2023-10-02T12:09:30Z
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@finlaydag33k I don't quite grasp what.Confused.
(DIR) Post #AaMYpXnOr8QXPSubgW by finlaydag33k@social.linux.pizza
2023-10-02T14:52:19Z
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@fbievan Basically someone in that class filed a complaint because I "wasn't inclusive" during the lecture (introduction to cryptography).Person didn't like that I said "young ladies and gentlemen" (thus "excluding everyone else on the spectrum") or only used "he/him" and "she/her" pronouns for Alice, Bob and Eve instead of adding some "character" that was "inclusive"...And they claimed it caused them (the complainer) "serious harm through mental abuse"...
(DIR) Post #AaMekUJEzTY4sEmGo4 by fbievan@social.linux.pizza
2023-10-02T15:58:38Z
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@finlaydag33k inclusivity is the same as the equality argument.
(DIR) Post #AaMgii68x9mqy4voTw by finlaydag33k@social.linux.pizza
2023-10-02T16:20:43Z
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@fbievan I'm always a simple man: As long as someone doesn't explicitly _exclude_, don't start whining.Nobody has time to take every single damn person, gender, race, zodiac, favourite colour and car brand into account.
(DIR) Post #AaMheFgIlR9vdAHYZ6 by fbievan@social.linux.pizza
2023-10-02T16:31:07Z
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@finlaydag33k English don't work in the way that person thinksNot mentioning something doesn't mean it is excluded.
(DIR) Post #AaMhulMAlPV6VGjwMC by finlaydag33k@social.linux.pizza
2023-10-02T16:34:06Z
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@fbievan Exactly my point.But no, I didn't explicitly mention it so I wasn't inclusive. --'But the fact they literally said it caused them "serious harm" (specifically "mental abuse") was a massive "HELL NAH GET OUT" moment either way.
(DIR) Post #AaMjqrqmsUGxOSKWq8 by fbievan@social.linux.pizza
2023-10-02T16:55:49Z
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@finlaydag33k yeah 'serious harm' is wild.