Post AaMKZ2TQ934UH2noTw by 8ruun@expressional.social
(DIR) More posts by 8ruun@expressional.social
(DIR) Post #AaLoEjzfwgaydRAOfo by saint_rebel_ukraine_@mastodon.world
2023-10-02T06:06:22Z
0 likes, 2 repeats
Here goes the last bit of decency.
(DIR) Post #AaM7tUT4TPj9U63p7w by anderspuck@krigskunst.social
2023-10-02T09:50:12Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
It boggles the mind that Ukrainian officials keep producing exclusive content for Elon Musk. I understand why they don't leave X right away, they need the audience. But I don't get why they are not even trying to build a presence in the Fediverse.#Ukraine Quoting @saint_rebel_ukraine_ https://mastodon.world/@saint_rebel_ukraine_/111163918422211656
(DIR) Post #AaM8Cv5JjjiTXNDMtk by Loukas@mastodon.nu
2023-10-02T09:53:46Z
0 likes, 1 repeats
@anderspuck @saint_rebel_ukraine_ I suspect there's quite a lot of engagement to be gained through the practice of 'dunking on Musk' and so when he says horrible things that paradoxically also creates incentives for his enemies to stay on twitter.
(DIR) Post #AaM8hybShmELQW3il6 by MasterDim@mstdn.social
2023-10-02T09:59:19Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
One word - Starlink @anderspuck @saint_rebel_ukraine_
(DIR) Post #AaM8r2U7duI24UwnLM by anderspuck@krigskunst.social
2023-10-02T10:00:59Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@MasterDim I don't think that is the reason. Starlink would not cut the connection just because some Ukrainian officials crossposted to Mastodon.
(DIR) Post #AaM8y8GsWl8W2q8Qmu by kallekn@mastodonsweden.se
2023-10-02T10:02:00Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@anderspuck @saint_rebel_ukraine_
(DIR) Post #AaM97sSo9dZ5ukMUEq by chowderman@universeodon.com
2023-10-02T10:04:00Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@anderspuck @saint_rebel_ukraine_ Musk has the power of controlling the algorithm. He is a publisher, not an aggregator.Difficult to know what, if any, agreement he has with the Ukrainian government.If Ukraine are not receiving something substantial from providing Twitter with exclusive content, someone in the government needs to be fired.
(DIR) Post #AaM9ANOw6HZARck5Ds by sichkovskyi@social.noleron.com
2023-10-02T10:04:15Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@anderspuck @saint_rebel_ukraine_ Twitter is a very niche social network in Ukraine. It's either activists / volunteers using it or random subculture people.So for Ukrainian officials Twitter is the plarform where they can interact with other foreign officials in an official manner.Same with Ukrainian officials being on Telegram, despite Telegram being owned by a russian and having servers in russia: it's an official communication tool, but for a different purpose and audience.I personally think that our officials will start considering the free social media only once EU invests heavily in it and shows us the way.
(DIR) Post #AaMAEBDJSGX7l4gPYG by picard@mas.to
2023-10-02T10:08:50Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@sichkovskyi @anderspuck @saint_rebel_ukraine_ It makes sense - so many government departments / organisations are ignoring it over here too - all the government authorities around me still basically only present on X and invest a substantial amount of time (and therefore, money) in producing value for him. Ukraine should not be forced to lead the way in this - *we* should be doing the heavy lifting, so Ukrainian government can focus on other priorities and we take some of the strain.
(DIR) Post #AaMAEBzsXhNiBhPCFc by anderspuck@krigskunst.social
2023-10-02T10:16:21Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@picard @sichkovskyi @ It is a good explanation, but it's not hard to crosspost. Many of these people have staffs to manage their social media. They are never going to get out of the claws of Elon, if everyone is waiting for each other.
(DIR) Post #AaMALzEnrhJGvr6R4S by snaggen@mastodon.nu
2023-10-02T10:16:16Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@sichkovskyi @anderspuck @saint_rebel_ukraine_ Eu have setup their own instance https://social.network.europa.eu/about
(DIR) Post #AaMAM00J15J7JBKN72 by anderspuck@krigskunst.social
2023-10-02T10:17:35Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@snaggen @sichkovskyi They only have 19 active users…
(DIR) Post #AaMAbTSplawr1N3CDo by picard@mas.to
2023-10-02T10:20:29Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@anderspuck @sichkovskyi I couldn't agree more - it is really frustrating to me that all these organisations around me have witnessed what we have over the last year - and they're all just like "oh well" and carry on like nothing changed.
(DIR) Post #AaMAl8TaeaT6pB0l3w by snaggen@mastodon.nu
2023-10-02T10:22:16Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@anderspuck @sichkovskyi But they are like, ,"European Commission", "European Labour Authority", " Court of Justice of the EU" aso. So, kind of important accounts.
(DIR) Post #AaMAt0zMNNqHv1d1Ki by anderspuck@krigskunst.social
2023-10-02T10:23:46Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@snaggen @sichkovskyi I think the important accounts are the personal ones of influential politicians and public figures.
(DIR) Post #AaMBBykouMyEUTs0wK by km@muuzikku.produkti.se
2023-10-02T10:27:27.964561Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@saint_rebel_ukraine_ you have missed this one
(DIR) Post #AaMBSemgPQqTTgh6Om by MasterDim@mstdn.social
2023-10-02T10:30:07Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@anderspuck Yes it’s reach first & foremost plus #Twitter is where other State representatives are/were. But speculating on other reasons- I wouldn’t gamble that supporting direct competitors of #X wouldn’t trigger #Musk to do something stupid. From Crimea example seems to be no accountability if he pulls plug. That said it’s got to the point the relationship’s already so toxic UKR may no longer care. UKR may have also been waiting to see if/where #TwitterMigration lands - they need biggest ROI
(DIR) Post #AaMBVZwsqNYHLjrIvY by sichkovskyi@social.noleron.com
2023-10-02T10:30:46Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@anderspuck @snaggen The idea being:- Politicians are not maintaining any kind of personal social networks or if they do, they are doing it as privately as possible- If it is assessed that there is a value in communicating officially through some tool, this will be doneeuropa.eu instance can be invite only by design and have only institutions and official communications there for people to follow and interact withwhat matters is EU investing in this and probably, after some period of time, reporting that EU money were well spent by maintaining the thingthen individual governments within and outside EU will look at it and start considering :)
(DIR) Post #AaMByvw6AsKtwLUNNo by sichkovskyi@social.noleron.com
2023-10-02T10:35:57Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@anderspuck @picard For me and you, it's not hard to cross-post :) Governments will need to allocate more money after reviewing spending in a planned manner and then shuffle some responsible people who are doing social media, assign more responsibilities to them, etc.Most probably, it will be decided to invest in some tool to do this, since governments are both lazy and incompetent in technology, so some intern will be assigned to do the most secure self-hosted social media crosspost tool ever on a shoestring budget or no additional budget at all on a strict deadline............It's so much better if they just decide "okay we're gonna make this platform our official means of communication and pay for hosting"
(DIR) Post #AaMCj5JPe9wQL9OtQe by anderspuck@krigskunst.social
2023-10-02T10:44:25Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@sichkovskyi @picard I don't think they need to host a server. They can just have an account like everyone else and post the same stuff twice. @Podolyak_M already has one, but he doesn't use it much.
(DIR) Post #AaMCxmWLnKagP5SaZc by sichkovskyi@social.noleron.com
2023-10-02T10:47:04Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@anderspuck @picard You seem to be tech competent if you think that :D However, most governments are not. I certainly know that there are very few really tech competent people in the Ukrainian government. Also don't forget that if money can be overspent for maintaining some thing, it probably will be overspent, opportunity here can't ever be wasted :blob_cat:
(DIR) Post #AaMDXZvE77ypkpAHvE by chowderman@universeodon.com
2023-10-02T10:52:52Z
0 likes, 1 repeats
@sichkovskyi @anderspuck @picard I don’t think that anybody is expecting every individual in government to cross-post.But it isn’t unreasonable to expect a departmental media team to cross-post.Ukraine, right from the beginning, was better at using Social Media than any western government.What are https://u24.media hanging around for? Why aren’t they (and other departments) using the Fediverse?
(DIR) Post #AaMI56GfH1zRRhQrYm by Paladin@mastodon.nu
2023-10-02T11:44:25Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@anderspuck @saint_rebel_ukraine_ Sunken cost fallacy. Leave now and stop the self harm..
(DIR) Post #AaMKZ2TQ934UH2noTw by 8ruun@expressional.social
2023-10-02T12:12:12Z
0 likes, 1 repeats
@anderspuck @saint_rebel_ukraine_ That goes to almost every government authority out there. Why don’t they take a stand and leave in stead of keeping their eyes and ears shut to his crazy statements? Who can make that kind of decision on a government level e.g. here in Denmark?It's so annoying to witness crucial information from the government, police and the media *only on X* — which helps him to keep the business running.
(DIR) Post #AaMO4jq7GDuHbwE1D6 by t_mkdf@ruhr.social
2023-10-02T12:48:16Z
0 likes, 1 repeats
@Loukas @anderspuck @saint_rebel_ukraine_ and Musk is the perfect example of bad publicity is still publicity.Though I wonder when the actual threshold is until X implodes.Why should it implode? Because when enough people that used to engage in conversations (and maybe formed the counter part) leave, it will be utterly boring and meaningless.Basically trolls need somebody to troll.
(DIR) Post #AaMZh5zwQJ92pmJVAG by waffles@mastodon.nl
2023-10-02T15:00:01Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@saint_rebel_ukraine_ @8ruun @anderspuck indeed, governments have a duty in my opinion to provide their information on platforms that do not force their citizens to be subjected to hate speech etc. They have a duty to not utilize (& thereby promote) platforms that undermine society & government. In my opinion a politician or govt institution that is still present on Twitter is not abiding by the contract it has with its citizens.
(DIR) Post #AaMZh6r7EbgBUhBy2y by anderspuck@krigskunst.social
2023-10-02T15:01:43Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@waffles @8ruun In my experience most government institutions don’t think so deeply about it. Unfortunately.
(DIR) Post #AaMdtLdsU5E0e45j0q by 8ruun@expressional.social
2023-10-02T15:48:41Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@anderspuck @waffles I agree. But it’s a shame. Because then they help to legitimize his platform.