Post AaDWIezh7ihlqcDPvM by grahamperrin@mastodon.bsd.cafe
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(DIR) Post #AaBVs1nzoahKSd7mXA by stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe
2023-09-27T06:57:49Z
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Ten Things To Do After Installing FreeBSDhttps://bastillebsd.org/blog/2022/07/14/ten-things-to-do-after-installing-freebsd/#FreeBSD #IT #SysAdmin
(DIR) Post #AaBXSEWU6nfSHalH6W by Anniiii@gts.ferreo.dev
2023-09-27T07:15:04Z
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@stefano mostly agree, though not seeing why you necessarily need zsh, what's wrong with the standard csh setup?
(DIR) Post #AaBfXX9565jX7XqxFY by stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe
2023-09-27T08:46:07Z
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@Anniiii I'm not the author of the article, so I don't know. I'm fine with csh as well, but many prefer zsh - especially if coming from Linux. Maybe that's the reason why they suggest zsh. I prefer to stick with a shell being in base system.
(DIR) Post #AaBh2NjGG0mwqb37mC by alelab@mastodon.bsd.cafe
2023-09-27T09:02:55Z
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@stefano @Anniiii For my user account, I like #Fish shell. Nice and easy to use for my need. DO NOT change default shell for root account. Else you can get issue if an update goes wrong.
(DIR) Post #AaBi3EFZ5LYzh07w1o by stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe
2023-09-27T09:14:18Z
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@alelab @Anniiii I'm using the fish shell on my workstation. Root shell has always been and will always be the default one. When I was younger I changed it to bash and an update caused headaches 🤕
(DIR) Post #AaBqgY6xyTbQDbMiYK by justdude@mastodon.nl
2023-09-27T10:35:47Z
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@alelab @stefano @Anniiii Oeps… good tip. I got so used to Fish, cannot live without it. Command history and guessing is super including the plugins. Which skin or color scheme do you prefer?
(DIR) Post #AaBrwbUhGUplIUgUrY by zirias@techhub.social
2023-09-27T10:57:09Z
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@alelab @stefano @Anniiii my 2¢ here (actually, indeed two remarks):1. What's "wrong" with #csh is it's a non-standard shell, many things work differently than in a #POSIX-compliant (bourne) shell, sometimes in subtle and surprising ways. For me, this is just unnecessary friction, you'll always use a bourne shell for scripting, and I want my interactive shell to work exactly the same (plus extensions of course). Regarding this, #fish is even worse, while #zsh by default is (almost) #POSIX-compliant, can emulate a lot (including #csh) and is comfortable by extensions.2. #FreeBSD offers "toor" as a second name for "root" with its own entry in the passwd database. If you activate it (by setting a password), you can change the shell of *one* of the accounts safely, as long as the *other* one keeps having the default shell from base.
(DIR) Post #AaBtOdIeFFvGxZyh3g by vermaden@mastodon.bsd.cafe
2023-09-27T11:12:31Z
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@Anniiii @stefano The csh(1) is not even able to do as simple thing as this one:% echo 1> /dev/null 2> /dev/nullAmbiguous output redirect.There are also other reasons:- http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/cshFortunatelly the FreeBSD 14.x has POSIX sh(1) as root shell:- https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=d410b585b6f00a26c2de7724d6576a3ea7d548b7
(DIR) Post #AaBzqgGnOYww0MrwBs by Freaky@hachyderm.io
2023-09-27T12:16:15Z
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@alelab @stefano @Anniiii I run zsh off my ~/.profile with a short exit delay. If it breaks I just have to ^C and I'm dropped to a sh prompt.
(DIR) Post #AaD6eYI28HhicLZUhc by grahamperrin@mastodon.bsd.cafe
2023-09-28T01:24:40Z
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@stefano @Anniiii I never use bash, https://old.reddit.com/comments/ozxqkg/-/h84lbvi/ probably explains why I still prefer tcsh and csh on #FreeBSD.https://scriptingosx.com/2019/06/moving-to-zsh/ might be of interest.
(DIR) Post #AaDWIezh7ihlqcDPvM by grahamperrin@mastodon.bsd.cafe
2023-09-28T01:16:23Z
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@alelab @stefano @Anniiii âš™ D40565 Remove toor backup account <https://reviews.freebsd.org/D40565>
(DIR) Post #AaDWIfv7gCdsij5HRA by zirias@techhub.social
2023-09-28T06:01:56Z
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@grahamperrin @alelab @stefano @Anniiii thanks, added a comment @emaste 😉