Post Aa3AwD5u8IVmKRyTqa by rlier23@bae.st
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(DIR) Post #Aa2kDe6kFjTwGpSPLs by anime_outdoor@poa.st
2023-09-23T01:25:43.872367Z
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Can’t believe I’m arguing with lolicons on Twitter about how their use of the term leads to confusion and contention.>often intentionally so What am I doing 🤦♂️
(DIR) Post #Aa2kHWejtrHIJlCweu by Turdicus@poa.st
2023-09-23T01:26:25.505868Z
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give me the shortstack please
(DIR) Post #Aa2kMqTpccdJFUdtTM by anime_outdoor@poa.st
2023-09-23T01:27:23.578196Z
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Amen :02monster:
(DIR) Post #Aa2kXvqG1lm73zQ0J6 by RatPoster@poa.st
2023-09-23T01:29:23.539851Z
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The real terms are: Loli, Lolibaba and Oppai-loli. No need to thank me.
(DIR) Post #Aa2l2uBaEbfEu8A96u by anime_outdoor@poa.st
2023-09-23T01:34:59.669527Z
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Those last two terms contribute to the confusion since clearer terms exist
(DIR) Post #Aa2l6jlEw60VjLfT5k by jetzkrieg@poa.st
2023-09-23T01:35:41.292126Z
3 likes, 0 repeats
Thank you rat. I was about to correct this reddit meme but you've beaten me to the punch.
(DIR) Post #Aa2lObfBmVWNpRMHUO by siinclaiir@bae.st
2023-09-23T01:38:55.054979Z
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@anime_outdoor :zt_naruhodo: hmmuu hmmu
(DIR) Post #Aa2lWkZIYZs5lPUCv2 by Loki@whinge.town
2023-09-23T01:40:17.375216Z
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@anime_outdoor i say we call all small and flat waifus lolis bc it upsets retards (see the situation with rebecca being called a loli)
(DIR) Post #Aa2lXb4zK07MckiFX6 by jetzkrieg@poa.st
2023-09-23T01:40:32.404698Z
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It's not worth it to argue about anything with lolicon twitter. They are a hivemind of low functioning autists who form their identity around desperately trying to get approval from normies for gooning to loli, using the same retarded cope arguments day in day out. One of the most tiresome and low IQ group of people I've ever had the displeasure of interacting with.
(DIR) Post #Aa2ldvDjLo1wpNolaC by RatPoster@poa.st
2023-09-23T01:41:40.800150Z
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Tourists won't understand, no matter what term you use. Just use the correct terms and make fun of people who use them wrong.
(DIR) Post #Aa2lmPX4XG2f9gudl2 by sapphire@needs.vodka
2023-09-23T01:43:09.633895Z
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@RatPoster @anime_outdoor Uzaki is in her 20s.
(DIR) Post #Aa2mDZBKldFytvh3fk by RatPoster@poa.st
2023-09-23T01:48:07.368506Z
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I was mostly talking about body type, not the actual characters. Uzaki really shouldn't be in the discussion of loli, as she's on the fringe of just barely counting (sometimes).
(DIR) Post #Aa2mQppUBPnCIUnjNY by anime_outdoor@poa.st
2023-09-23T01:50:31.428919Z
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Damn I should have used her instead for the middle, she’s much more known
(DIR) Post #Aa2mXp67InNQ3Sucuu by rlier23@detroitriotcity.com
2023-09-23T01:51:47.403569Z
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@RatPoster @sapphire @anime_outdoor usaki isnt Even loli what the hell
(DIR) Post #Aa2mq2uqfHn07kKaEi by anime_outdoor@poa.st
2023-09-23T01:55:04.858633Z
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If loli is just about body type and nothing to do with age, then the term oppai loli shouldn’t exist because it doesn’t follow the body type, and loli babba shouldn’t exist because it references age
(DIR) Post #Aa2n02vJUYYR2jJi2S by anime_outdoor@poa.st
2023-09-23T01:56:53.117663Z
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It really has just been the same thing over and over with them.I should just delete them now that it’s wound down
(DIR) Post #Aa2o234O1DWo1w4z4q by RatPoster@poa.st
2023-09-23T02:07:44.673219Z
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The issue is that we are discussing different branches of the main tree, which have branched off for different reasons. They are not traditional loli, so they have different names. Uzaki wouldn't even make a good referance for short-stack either, so using her is annoying.
(DIR) Post #Aa2qZcHcJhgEhuOzTc by sapphire@needs.vodka
2023-09-23T02:36:54.448381Z
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@RatPoster @anime_outdoor >4'11>canonical J cupsshe's short, she's stacked what else do you want autist?
(DIR) Post #Aa2qvCg0CcCbf06MFM by RatPoster@poa.st
2023-09-23T02:40:49.657716Z
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The use of proper terms, like an autist would.
(DIR) Post #Aa2u6XDgSmNCQDx0Fc by ehhh@varishangout.net
2023-09-23T03:16:25.803303Z
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@anime_outdoor I've had one of my artworks labeled toddlercon when it isn't.
(DIR) Post #Aa2zEdZZE6LSDFrxSa by anime_outdoor@poa.st
2023-09-23T04:13:59.129986Z
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I wish to reject the notion they they are part of the same tree.I would argue that separate and more precise categorization leads to less confusion and contention, and leaves the term loli more congruent with its original usage.If the term loli is a tree, then adjectives like oppai and baba have been artificially grafted onto it in my opinion, based on my reading of the term’s history.
(DIR) Post #Aa2zpk1mBpWswmkxkW by RatPoster@poa.st
2023-09-23T04:20:41.062649Z
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But they wern't artificially grafted, they were created when artists wanted their own flavor of weird fetish and loli to combine. Loli is a broader genre term than people assume, and not always nsfw.
(DIR) Post #Aa31jZUOervUQxKT32 by anime_outdoor@poa.st
2023-09-23T04:41:59.086273Z
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These things being created later is what I mean by artificially grafted.Nobokov did not lay out different types of lolis in his famous book.They were not part of the original tree.It certainly is used more broadly today, and my argument is that this broad usage has brought unnecessary confusion and contention.Why are such amalgams of seemingly contradictory terms even necessary when more clear and precise terms already existed?>What the heck even is the difference between a petite woman and a lolibaba?I see no positives.
(DIR) Post #Aa32ELg43mxYZfSj8C by RatPoster@poa.st
2023-09-23T04:47:32.571347Z
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Not part of the original tree yet still related = branching off, that's why I used the terminology. The difference between a petite woman and a lolibaba should be plain for anyone with knowledge of the terms. I don't feel the need to make things easier to understand for people who are not part of the band of autism that is otaku culture. The terms are useful for people who want to find their flavor of niche sub-genre.
(DIR) Post #Aa33Iw2otFwmTdrBi4 by anime_outdoor@poa.st
2023-09-23T04:59:34.839813Z
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It can’t be an issue of mannerisms, because many characters who are petite women get called lolibabas despite having different mannerisms from each other.And it can’t be the way they dress either for the same reason.The only thing they have in common is that they are short and flat, yet the adjective baba is added in reference to their age, despite loli apparently having nothing to do with age.It’s definitely confusing to me, despite doing way more digging into the subject than the average normie, which is why I say it leads to unnecessary contention.
(DIR) Post #Aa33qARAOpREfh5ieu by RatPoster@poa.st
2023-09-23T05:05:34.886894Z
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The ideal lolibaba for a typical lolibaba enjoyer is the personality of a hag but in loli form, so personality is important for them. Dress is a minor factor. It's not hard to understand lolibaba it's loli+baba(old woman).
(DIR) Post #Aa34cFiG5VMsvx0xfM by Shadowbroker2135@poa.st
2023-09-23T05:14:16.746264Z
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>lolibabaIs that where you buy cheap Chinese stuff?
(DIR) Post #Aa36P0PDt5OPbTvDsG by anime_outdoor@poa.st
2023-09-23T05:34:17.406953Z
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Senko and Rebecca are both petite women who get called lolibaba, despite having way different personalities, dress, and age.I could understand lolibaba being a thing if lolicons could admit that there is also an age component to what makes a loli.That would at least make it more congruent with its original usage.I don’t see a consensus on that tho, there is too much confusion.Loli can’t just mean short + flat (IE just body type) because then the concept of an oppai loli makes no sense.One of these terms has to give for it to make sense. The only thing all three characters have in common from my OP image is that they are all short and female
(DIR) Post #Aa36sBtaFRYRdV2Vqi by RatPoster@poa.st
2023-09-23T05:39:33.884773Z
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Senko is lolibaba, Rebecca isn't. Age is a factor but it isn't the factor. Just like body type isn't the only factor for many sub-genres. Oppai-loli is just an odd man out because it's just loli and big tits. Rebecca would be a mesugaki. :brain_galaxy:
(DIR) Post #Aa372X2ySiwA8FMYym by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
2023-09-23T05:41:22.040160Z
9 likes, 6 repeats
@anime_outdoor petite woman best
(DIR) Post #Aa376N9FCxMsac7vnM by merchantHelios@poa.st
2023-09-23T05:42:07.624267Z
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sex
(DIR) Post #Aa37s1HXoDDqfmjGqm by All_bonesJones@shitposter.club
2023-09-23T05:50:44.482499Z
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@anime_outdoor @sapphire @RatPoster all depictions of short women without massive breasts are lolit. australian government
(DIR) Post #Aa39A29FQXKEWg0CB6 by RatPoster@poa.st
2023-09-23T06:05:11.796039Z
4 likes, 1 repeats
The australian government HATES slender women, making it the gayest country.
(DIR) Post #Aa3AwD5u8IVmKRyTqa by rlier23@bae.st
2023-09-23T06:25:06.973556Z
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@anime_outdoor this is so fucking wrong
(DIR) Post #Aa3BMJ0An7JYBDjkY4 by rlier23@bae.st
2023-09-23T06:29:49.721569Z
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@All_bonesJones @sapphire @RatPoster @anime_outdoor and funnilly enough their deffinition is quite right :kekw:
(DIR) Post #Aa3BPK7P61D6VnYfHU by anime_outdoor@poa.st
2023-09-23T06:30:21.939194Z
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I would agree that loli is not simply age or body type.If I had to call it something I would call it an archetype where as age, appearance, and personality all play a role in defining it.This is what I was trying to explain to the lolicons on Twitter.>Rebecca would be a mesugakiDoesn’t -gaki mean kid tho, and mesugaki would be like “bratty kid”I suppose thats more about her personality than anything
(DIR) Post #Aa3BWfZTjX1L4dC0i8 by anime_outdoor@poa.st
2023-09-23T06:31:42.288517Z
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Tenma looks like THAT⁉️ :blobmindblown: