Post AZs6ShWLd0E3LSdO40 by mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de
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(DIR) Post #AZqGyU7Q3s0T8WUK9o by FortyTwo@noagendasocial.com
2023-09-17T01:01:30Z
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(DIR) Post #AZr8jpqWOMzzhi31Wq by RexRedbone@noagendasocial.com
2023-09-17T11:03:55Z
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@FortyTwo say it ain't so
(DIR) Post #AZr9Lp9PQSPIYFzrQO by FortyTwo@noagendasocial.com
2023-09-17T11:10:47Z
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@RexRedbone if the authorities had any power here, I'd have been banned a long time ago
(DIR) Post #AZrBXaNcMw0U7kNYe0 by RexRedbone@noagendasocial.com
2023-09-17T11:35:19Z
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@FortyTwo You and Me Both I havent been suspended for arbitrary Facebook community standards for a bit I post this from time to time to remind them they are understood https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/25/18229714/cognizant-facebook-content-moderator-interviews-trauma-working-conditions-arizona
(DIR) Post #AZrZHgp8a9BrVjZ4YS by midway@soapbox.midwaytrades.com
2023-09-17T16:01:22.512885Z
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What authorities? Gee, this is about as lame as getting a threatening robocall from the IRS.
(DIR) Post #AZrurAeLmOYFBgHMTg by mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de
2023-09-17T20:03:04Z
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@FortyTwo the difference between the right and the left on free speech.left: you gotta ban the right to stop them from spreading dangerous information.right: you gotta amplify the left so everybody can see how dangerous they are.
(DIR) Post #AZruwx9as2GD4FeMsa by mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de
2023-09-17T20:04:06Z
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@FortyTwo the crazier the left becomes, the further center-people gets pushed to the right.
(DIR) Post #AZs1wCupTxNfLFKsFM by misterjesus@poa.st
2023-09-17T20:37:56.780382Z
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Neither is true. Each side will whine about their right to speak until they have the upper hand and then will try to silence their opposition.
(DIR) Post #AZs1wDsNuX1GJxCR4i by mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de
2023-09-17T21:22:23Z
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@misterjesus @FortyTwo "Neither is true."1. here's a couple of people on the right that got banned FROM EVERY PLATTFORM for speech.- ryan dawson- alex jones- Nicholas J. Fuentes- andrew tateand 2. here's a rightwing twitter account amplifying looneys from the left.https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3Alibsoftiktok%20teacher&src=typed_query
(DIR) Post #AZs4CCMDWdCM9TtnNo by mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de
2023-09-17T21:47:41Z
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@misterjesus @FortyTwo "Neither is true."1. here's a couple of people on the right that got banned FROM EVERY MAJOR PLATTFORM for speech.- ryan dawson- alex jones- Nicholas J. Fuentes- andrew tateand 2. here's a rightwing twitter account amplifying looneys from the left.https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3Alibsoftiktok%20teacher&src=typed_query
(DIR) Post #AZs6Sgp6DndBBKOqeW by misterjesus@poa.st
2023-09-17T22:09:12.355750Z
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So? It isn't a refutation of what I was saying.Those without power will demand their right to speak, and those without power will deny it.Just because currently, it is people you don't support in power doesn't mean that your side will be any better once they are in power.
(DIR) Post #AZs6ShWLd0E3LSdO40 by mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de
2023-09-17T22:13:05Z
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@misterjesus @FortyTwo "So? It isn't a refutation of what I was saying."you did not provide anything falsifiablyou just said i'm wrong. so i provided evidence for my statements.if you want to have a theorie/position, find arguments for it /against it yourself.i'm not here to argue your strawmans.
(DIR) Post #AZs6XgVIptzZdhWPpo by mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de
2023-09-17T22:14:01Z
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@misterjesus @FortyTwo "So? It isn't a refutation of what I was saying."you just said i'm wrong. so i provided evidence for my statements.if you want to have a theorie/position, find arguments for it /against it yourself.i'm not here to argue your strawmans.
(DIR) Post #AZs6kSvEdzKPHTkJDE by FortyTwo@noagendasocial.com
2023-09-17T22:16:20Z
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@midway @RexRedbone it's a joke, which is always funnier when they have to be explained
(DIR) Post #AZs73MbENLhzApOskK by misterjesus@poa.st
2023-09-17T22:18:02.881007Z
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I do not believe "the right" is better than "the left" regarding speech. It isn't hard to understand this. There aren't any strawmen.You seem to live in this boomercon fantasy land where your political side is virtuous.
(DIR) Post #AZs73NNRU6GzaLxNtQ by mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de
2023-09-17T22:19:43Z
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@misterjesus @FortyTwo name 5 leftists that got banned from every major plattform then.go ahead
(DIR) Post #AZs7TPhnRzZ6KrtQhM by MisterLister@poa.st
2023-09-17T22:24:28.517037Z
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Are you fucking retarded?He is saying people on the right get banned cause the left is in power When the true right gets in power the ANYONE to the left of us will be banned for being faggots
(DIR) Post #AZs7kb9y7Hu8meGSy8 by FortyTwo@noagendasocial.com
2023-09-17T22:27:34Z
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@MisterLister @mk @misterjesus can you list any instances where this has happened historically?
(DIR) Post #AZs7kl2BP5cPPOhODo by mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de
2023-09-17T22:27:32Z
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@MisterLister @FortyTwo @misterjesus "He is saying people on the right get banned cause the left is in power"so he agrees with me then."When the true right gets in power the ANYONE to the left of us will be banned for being faggots"objection speculation. proof your statement.
(DIR) Post #AZs7pcNB2AGDzfpuEa by mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de
2023-09-17T22:28:28Z
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@FortyTwo @MisterLister @misterjesus i don't care about your 1420 revolution. i care about the here and now..western countries in the past 50 years.
(DIR) Post #AZs89YEk7ZvKxROcgi by misterjesus@poa.st
2023-09-17T22:30:13.174910Z
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"Hey guys, don't you dare look to history to find examples that prove me utterly incorrect. You must find examples in this arbitrary time frame that I have specified."
(DIR) Post #AZs89Z2N93cfRMcG2q by idea_enjoyer@poa.st
2023-09-17T22:32:05.283709Z
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(DIR) Post #AZs8Bsvy8m3xjCjB3Y by mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de
2023-09-17T22:32:28Z
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@misterjesus @FortyTwo @MisterLister i'm here to defend the statements i made in my original post:https://mastodon.satoshishop.de/@mk/111082273823963629---In these statements I refer to the current situation.if you want to debate some biology/evolution whatever culture shit that happend 2000 years ago, go ahead and do this somewhere else, faggot.
(DIR) Post #AZs8UEec7mMOIvMO00 by ArdainianRight@detroitriotcity.com
2023-09-17T22:35:45.847475Z
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@mk @FortyTwo Sometimes, but many if not most centrists are cowards who will simply move leftward to accommodate the psychos.
(DIR) Post #AZs8naUV9xI3X3rFq4 by ArdainianRight@detroitriotcity.com
2023-09-17T22:39:16.758063Z
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@mk @FortyTwo For every centrist that loudly bitches about the radical left but never actually dares to outright support the right two more centrists bend over to avoid being called names because they're vapid normies with no real principles.
(DIR) Post #AZs8nw4iuTk4TTxyiG by mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de
2023-09-17T22:39:20Z
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@ArdainianRight @FortyTwo yes, you are right. they will do everything that a apparent authority tells them to do.---The #Milgram #Experiment | THE HEIST | Derren Brown 00:00:38 "normal #people can commit atrocious #acts simply[...]because the #scientist is telling them"00:08:42 "over 50%[...]will administer #lethal #electric #shocks just because a guy in a white coat is telling them to."https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xxq4QtK3j0Y
(DIR) Post #AZs97Rg5dUzxzTkOJ6 by misterjesus@poa.st
2023-09-17T22:42:18.197995Z
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> i'm here to defend the statements i made in my original postWhich is boomercon fantasy land. It is amazing that a bong has to tell you this.> if you want to debate some biology/evolution whatever culture shit that happend 2000 years agoYou are straw-manning me now.
(DIR) Post #AZs9JZw2lGaL4izkZs by mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de
2023-09-17T22:45:03Z
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@misterjesus @FortyTwo @MisterLister "Which is boomercon fantasy land."What is argumentum ad hominem?https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem"You are straw-manning me now."i'm telling you to fuck off and not to argue points that i'm putting in your mouth.you don't know what strawman means.
(DIR) Post #AZs9kXbHYBS1eW8mLg by misterjesus@poa.st
2023-09-17T22:49:05.009840Z
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LOL. You can't even get the fallacies right.
(DIR) Post #AZs9kYLilWb7yXrrjU by mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de
2023-09-17T22:49:56Z
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@misterjesus which one?
(DIR) Post #AZs9xoL6csWXKftytc by misterjesus@poa.st
2023-09-17T22:51:04.338505Z
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The other one.
(DIR) Post #AZs9xqAXp7GR0UyZiC by mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de
2023-09-17T22:52:18Z
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@misterjesus i mentioned ad-hominemhttps://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominemand strawmanhttps://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman---which one did i get wrong, faggot?
(DIR) Post #AZsAGZavffDP6XFXWa by misterjesus@poa.st
2023-09-17T22:52:56.061790Z
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Whichever one would bother you the most if you got it incorrect.
(DIR) Post #AZsAGaL0uK4vPSoLM8 by mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de
2023-09-17T22:55:43Z
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@misterjesus ok..you're obviously to dump to have a conversation with.take the L.i'm muting this shitshow now.
(DIR) Post #AZsAUoMbYbQ6xoL4Hw by FortyTwo@noagendasocial.com
2023-09-17T22:58:20Z
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@mk @ArdainianRight Scientists debunk famous Milgram study that found people obey orders no matter whatThis provides new insight into the psychology of oppression and gels with other evidence that perpetrators are generally motivated, not by a desire to do evil, but by a sense that what they are doing is worthy and noble.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2745195/Humans-AREN-T-inherently-evil-Scientists-debunk-famous-Milgram-study-people-obey-orders-no-matter-what.html
(DIR) Post #AZsArDiby7LJyIJkvo by FortyTwo@noagendasocial.com
2023-09-17T23:02:23Z
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@misterjesus @mk @MisterLister So, not only do you have to pick examples outside the founding of the US, but a completely different country to support your assertion?That kinda seems like a stretch.
(DIR) Post #AZsBc8gkUJKVyuoqOm by misterjesus@poa.st
2023-09-17T23:09:52.724984Z
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(DIR) Post #AZsBcAk0r984LcMTlQ by FortyTwo@noagendasocial.com
2023-09-17T23:10:51Z
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@misterjesus @mk @MisterLister oh, you're retarded, lolno worries
(DIR) Post #AZsBngFY330TFtbEPI by misterjesus@poa.st
2023-09-17T23:12:13.669800Z
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Imagine claiming someone else is retarded when not understanding what they said.
(DIR) Post #AZsBnh6MsfG1tiJPjk by FortyTwo@noagendasocial.com
2023-09-17T23:12:56Z
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@misterjesus @mk @MisterLister it's okay buddy, explaining ideas is hard
(DIR) Post #AZsCujNiu0F0wxLi08 by misterjesus@poa.st
2023-09-17T23:18:42.068615Z
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It isn't made any easier when people repeat shit they've heard from YouTubers because it fits in with their confirmation bias.So I will make it easy for you. About 20 years ago, there were a bunch of anti-terror laws made by the Republicans. Those same laws have been turned against the republicans under "domestic terrorism". The tech platforms have colluded with the left to de-platform people to limit their speech. When the tables turn, the right is likely to do the same to the left.
(DIR) Post #AZsCuk3uN9z93n5Okq by FortyTwo@noagendasocial.com
2023-09-17T23:25:25Z
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@misterjesus @mk @MisterLister Appeal To Widespread Belief, Appeal to Common Practice - "Everybody does it"You still haven't provided any examples where Republicans have "done the same to the left". Anti-terror laws were passed to prosecute terrorists. They flew planes into a building, weren't citizens, didn't vote.You could claim warning labels on records, but that was spearheaded by Tipper Gore - Al Gore's ex-wife.Or, you could claim the "red scare" but that actually produced commies.
(DIR) Post #AZsH1CPKIUwOWgRGOe by Zennblack@noagendasocial.com
2023-09-18T00:11:25Z
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@FortyTwo @mk @ArdainianRight People are easily led to believe that what they are doing is worthy and noble because the academic elite said so.
(DIR) Post #AZsH6OzyuXaX1c45Ee by misterjesus@poa.st
2023-09-18T00:08:17.827527Z
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I didn't make an argument about whether the Republicans had done the same to the left.I stated how the group not in power would whine about their right to speak. The progressives (at the time) used to do this.Now the right is doing it because they don't have power, and the pendulum is starting to swing the other way again. It isn't difficult to see what is happening.> Anti-terror laws were passed to prosecute terrorists. Some now define a terrorist as someone wearing a MAGA cap. If you can't see how things are abused through manipulation of language, there is no helping you.
(DIR) Post #AZsH6PpNpQhlb278M4 by FortyTwo@noagendasocial.com
2023-09-18T00:12:21Z
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@misterjesus @mk @MisterLister >Neither is true. Each side will whine about their right to speak until they have the upper hand and then will try to silence their opposition.That's what you said. You asserted that there's no difference between the two parties -- "Everybody does it"But you can't cite any examples to back up your assertion, and now you're moving the goalposts -- "That's not what I said"When have Republicans silenced Democrats? There's a ton of examples the other way around
(DIR) Post #AZsIgcUKKoq5F05nOq by misterjesus@poa.st
2023-09-18T00:20:53.373199Z
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Notice there isn’t anything about Republicans or Democrats in that statement. I don’t believe in your Red vs Blue team sports bullshit.
(DIR) Post #AZsIgdCzekZHTWzT1M by FortyTwo@noagendasocial.com
2023-09-18T00:30:06Z
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@misterjesus @mk @MisterLister > " the group not in power"What political group were you referring to? The Green party? Libertarians? The Girl Scouts?More goal post moving?
(DIR) Post #AZtdmkjGtrhKjVoAyG by istvan@noagendasocial.com
2023-09-18T16:01:14Z
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@mk @misterjesus @FortyTwo @MisterLister > Links to a logical fallacy site in an argumentFound the Redditor.
(DIR) Post #Aa5JJ6dVUuUQuS2YcK by mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de
2023-09-24T07:08:15Z
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@misterjesus more evidence to proof my point.situation: leftist looney tried to weaponize her audience to cancel mean rightwing youtuber for hurting her feelings.https://youtu.be/_ssTnZPnv_w?t=213---conclusion:fuck banning. let the court of public opinion decide which one is more worthy of supporting.https://youtu.be/_ssTnZPnv_w?t=423@FortyTwo