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(DIR) Post #AWHFfH9JK7TuPvzt8i by RadicalGraffiti@todon.eu
2023-06-02T09:47:39Z
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"The only dangerous minority is the rich"Pasteups in NYC
(DIR) Post #AWIabcghatQYFsfvgu by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T01:24:56Z
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@RadicalGraffiti
(DIR) Post #AWIgkRx3TokdHwusi0 by municipaladhesives@kolektiva.social
2023-06-03T02:33:32Z
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@freemo @RadicalGraffiti Asenine. Poor people have no access to the government to use it as a means of control. The graph of people who use the government to control others and the graph of people's wealth would be the same graph.
(DIR) Post #AWIgwS3Uv3yb5NeX2m by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T02:35:56Z
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@municipaladhesives depends on how you define poor I suppose, for the most destitute who are homeless I'd tend to agree your right.. but for the vast majority of people, even the lower class, this still applies.@RadicalGraffiti
(DIR) Post #AWIhIVfi9dn6fl2qtU by municipaladhesives@kolektiva.social
2023-06-03T02:39:55Z
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@freemo @RadicalGraffiti what access do lower class people have to the means of changing their government to do anything at all, let alone attempting to control others? The government responds only to the wealthy, and serves their interests exclusively. To pretend otherwise is to feign ignorance.
(DIR) Post #AWIhN3fRhX8dGb5cdE by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T02:40:43Z
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@municipaladhesives The meme i posted doesnt saying anything about **changing** the government. You can use it to control other people just the way it is.@RadicalGraffiti
(DIR) Post #AWIiKixloCg2Qb6zFA by municipaladhesives@kolektiva.social
2023-06-03T02:51:25Z
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@freemo @RadicalGraffiti how does a poor person use the government to control others? What means of control do poor people have? Who is a poor person lobbyist? What branch of the military do the poor command? The equivalencies just don't exist.
(DIR) Post #AWIiVYmfzh5s2n5cFU by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T02:53:28Z
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@municipaladhesives We already covered that I dont think people who are truely destitute and poor can.. I said lower-class (lower-middle and up in this case) however and up can... Do you mean to rephrase your question to mean the lower class I referred to?@RadicalGraffiti
(DIR) Post #AWIjUAqVbt65Svmjxo by municipaladhesives@kolektiva.social
2023-06-03T03:04:26Z
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@freemo @RadicalGraffiti I don't need to rephrase the questions for you to answer them. You should answer them.
(DIR) Post #AWIjkHoxReRdjPk6k4 by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-03T03:07:20Z
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@municipaladhesives I aleady answered this question if you arent going to rephrase it... so no you dont have to rephrase it, but if you dont its useless in its current form as I already addressed the case of destitute poor people.@RadicalGraffiti
(DIR) Post #AWOSzeYAghb6IRON84 by Mr_Teatime@social.tchncs.de
2023-06-05T21:27:55Z
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@freemoI'd argue that the red column should be much wider at the top than at the bottom. But actually, I think it's ultimately useless, even counterproductive ... nay, reinforcing part of the problem, to try to delineate one group of people and call them "evil" or blame them for stuff....Blame is a tool to distribute revenge/retribution, but revenge does not solve issues. Accumulation of unchecked power is dangerous, no matter in whose hands it ends up.@RadicalGraffiti
(DIR) Post #AWOT7Jgm8JiTug4RzE by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-05T21:29:18Z
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@Mr_Teatime @RadicalGraffiti I think the problem is pretty equal in terms of percentage of each class who are the bad guys.
(DIR) Post #AWSBTGCok84GwFDCMq by Mr_Teatime@social.tchncs.de
2023-06-07T16:30:21Z
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@freemoThe more I thino about this: It's actually kinda useless to discuss that, really, because everyone has their own impressions, and there is no scenario where we can judge someone a "bad guy" based on "these simple rules". Because any simple rule to judge other people is basically prejudice, and therfore bad...Also, I think almost nobody is bad, but almost everyone will act bad if you put them in the bad guy seat and tell them to do their thing.@RadicalGraffiti
(DIR) Post #AWSBZHXGiB3angeIWu by freemo@qoto.org
2023-06-07T16:31:29Z
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@Mr_Teatime Yea it is certainly very subjective territory we are treading here.@RadicalGraffiti
(DIR) Post #AZT1JmfWEuatlBF0KG by kpeace@liberdon.com
2023-06-08T18:10:16Z
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@RadicalGraffitiAnd bicycle riders.Why bicycle riders?Why the rich?
(DIR) Post #AZT1JncignwuimwHbM by till@nerdica.net
2023-06-08T20:04:26Z
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@kpeace @RadicalGraffitiBecause, exploiting other people and destroying the world we live in, is not something that can help, if you want to become a bicycle rider?
(DIR) Post #AZT1JotlwtBSfxvPou by kpeace@liberdon.com
2023-06-11T11:01:06Z
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@till @RadicalGraffiti Why do you equate rich with destroying the world?
(DIR) Post #AZT1JpcnFVCEvazMzg by till@nerdica.net
2023-06-12T07:38:41Z
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@kpeace @RadicalGraffiti I do not. I just said, it helps.Do I have to explain to you, how exploitation helps in getting ritch?Or are you unclear in how exploiting the recources of this world is destructive?
(DIR) Post #AZT1JqWntG01jJC6IS by kpeace@liberdon.com
2023-06-12T17:12:49Z
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@tillExploitation actually destroys wealth.Most of the rich people didn't get rich by exploitation. They did it by creating value.@RadicalGraffiti
(DIR) Post #AZT1JrMCo97GIjF9Ps by till@nerdica.net
2023-06-12T18:12:04Z
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@kpeace @RadicalGraffitiI literally laughed out loud, when I read your post. 😁Either we have very different definitions of rich or you are very naive.Just to clarify: we're not talking about the odd million bucks of total worth here. You can amass a few million over your lifetime by creating value, if you have a lucky start. And even then, you are likely profiting from indirect exploitation.But you aren't rich then you are merely middle class.If you want to get rich, you either inherit, or you need to exploit people and environment.
(DIR) Post #AZT1Js83wDOgh9dN0i by till@nerdica.net
2023-06-12T18:13:58Z
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@kpeace @RadicalGraffiti p.s. and yes, exploitation destroys wealth. But if you destroy other people's wealth, you can get very rich.
(DIR) Post #AZT1JsyslpeFKyLYLA by kpeace@liberdon.com
2023-06-16T03:35:24Z
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@till @RadicalGraffiti Actually, it very simple (not easy) to become rich without exploitation. All you need to do us create something that people value more than it cost to produce it.
(DIR) Post #AZT1JtjJzAnLf04diy by till@nerdica.net
2023-06-16T06:51:49Z
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@kpeace @RadicalGraffitiNo, that is how you earn money and it is actually not only simple, but also easy. I can bake bread with a resource price of 0,50€-1,00€ per kg and sell it for 5,00€-7,00€ per kg. Even if you factor in my living (rent, food, etc.) and equipment (oven, mixer, etc.) cost, I will get more money per bread, than I invested in the resources.But I alone can only bake so many breads per day. And no matter how much I maximise the profit, I will never get rich by baking bread.I could of course hire people to bake bread for me and take the difference between resources + their living cost for myself. But then I would exploit their labour to get rich.
(DIR) Post #AZT1JuXey13qB7cqBc by kpeace@liberdon.com
2023-06-18T07:50:11Z
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@till @RadicalGraffitiThat will never work. Lets say a single worker can make $700 a day. why would he work for someone and give him a piece of that?The only reason for A to work for B is if B increase their productivity. B supplies machinery/services that enables A to make $1000 a day. The additional $300 is split between A and B.Thus the investment of capital makes everyone more productive and better off
(DIR) Post #AZT1JvKa28C0cqVuRF by till@nerdica.net
2023-06-19T15:38:14Z
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@kpeace @RadicalGraffitiThis is so wrong, that I don't really know, where to start. You don't get rich from $150. When B owns the machines, they will probably not give A the additional $150 but reduce the prices so A can only earn enough to survive, if they work for B. And then, B will only pay as much as they absolutely need to. The rich get richer, simply by owning money, without any real work and you suggest, they don't exploit anyone.I'm to tired for this shit. You are either very naive or just a troll. In any way, I have more rewarding things to do, than explaining reality to you.I'm out of this conversation.