Post AZSlVvm2c7d8Cw3tdg by tinitun@mstdn.social
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 (DIR) Post #AZSErsrMpeKn3MPgvI by SteveFaulkner@mastodon.social
       2023-09-05T09:33:40Z
       
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       Diversity report - 2023 @w3c "As part of our commitment and continued focus on diversity and inclusion, since 2018 we annually report on gender and geographic diversity at W3C."#w3c #diversity #webStandardshttps://www.w3.org/about/diversity/diversity-report-2023/
       
 (DIR) Post #AZSErtl1UiqzpyS8fo by tinitun@mstdn.social
       2023-09-05T10:08:34Z
       
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       @SteveFaulkner @w3c Oh my God, the alternative text of the graphs is nothing more than “this is a graph”, and if you want to access the tabular data you have to log in… 🤦‍♂️ Not very good for a “we embrace diversity” page
       
 (DIR) Post #AZSEruUOm19M6hgNOq by w3c@w3c.social
       2023-09-05T10:44:28Z
       
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       @tinitun our apologies for not checking in depth! Nobody should have to log in and we've now set all the resources to be publicly visible (not all of them were but we've corrected that error thanks to you)@SteveFaulkner
       
 (DIR) Post #AZSEzfKR1ZyvP5ii9I by w3c@w3c.social
       2023-09-05T10:45:51Z
       
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       @tinitun perhaps next time you ask about or report the issue, instead of casting blame?@SteveFaulkner
       
 (DIR) Post #AZSFVGgUBeckEm6Tzs by tinitun@mstdn.social
       2023-09-05T10:51:38Z
       
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       @w3c @SteveFaulkner Thank you for fixing that, but the alternative text is still not appropriate. You are still requiring people with visual disabilities to navigate to another version of the information that is far from being equivalent
       
 (DIR) Post #AZSFwDBPJRdvCHPl32 by tinitun@mstdn.social
       2023-09-05T10:56:28Z
       
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       @w3c @SteveFaulkner Perhaps next time you don’t create barriers from the very first time and I don’t need to ask for anything nor blame anybody, people with disabilities are tired of asking, we deserve the same access to information as anybody
       
 (DIR) Post #AZSG3bOhgMPkK99qMK by w3c@w3c.social
       2023-09-05T10:57:30Z
       
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       @tinitun We apologized for the unintended barrier.@SteveFaulkner
       
 (DIR) Post #AZSGgLixt9qd0Z6wQC by SteveFaulkner@mastodon.social
       2023-09-05T11:04:49Z
       
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       @w3c @tinitun 🖖🏽
       
 (DIR) Post #AZSHA7cOtlSRwmElTk by tinitun@mstdn.social
       2023-09-05T11:10:11Z
       
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       @w3c @SteveFaulkner Thank you for the apologies an thank you for (partially) fixing it, but blaming the victims of discrimination when they talk about it  doesn’t match very well with the apologies. Please understand that when people with disabilities blame inaccessibility is because of many years of inaccessibility, not just an image or two
       
 (DIR) Post #AZSlVuQ1eUQS0MkngW by SteveFaulkner@mastodon.social
       2023-09-05T11:15:00Z
       
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       @tinitun @w3c the provision of an alternative (linked) accessible representation of image content is an established practice. The alt text identifies the topic of the chart. There is room for improvement, but I don’t consider that the method  is incorrect
       
 (DIR) Post #AZSlVvm2c7d8Cw3tdg by tinitun@mstdn.social
       2023-09-05T11:31:07Z
       
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       @SteveFaulkner @w3c A table with a lot of data is not equivalent to the graph, if you see you will understand it immediately, but if you don’t see you have to navigate a lot of data trying to understand the evolution, proportions and so on, and of course you should have no memory problems
       
 (DIR) Post #AZSlVwUhw3MKRSxZGC by w3c@w3c.social
       2023-09-05T16:50:13Z
       
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       @tinitun For what is worth, in the case of graphs and charts where a two-part text alternative is required, we follow guidance available in this images tutorial by @wai:"Complex Images"https://www.w3.org/WAI/tutorials/images/complex/"long description provides detailed information, including scales, values, relationships and trends that are represented visually"@SteveFaulkner
       
 (DIR) Post #AZYuBIrfmOklrbOhAu by tinitun@mstdn.social
       2023-09-08T15:55:41Z
       
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       @w3c @wai @SteveFaulkner Well, I think that tutorial needs improvement, the alt text should at least summarize the trends/main outcomes that sighted people are receiving in just a second; IMHO forcing blind users to navigate through 25 years of data cannot be considered "equivalent info".