Post AZOOaZJW2EDZVoZAA4 by starchturrets@mastodon.social
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 (DIR) Post #AZO5gPKr7mQfoaGCKu by phnt@fluffytail.org
       2023-09-03T10:43:03.854226Z
       
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       @ariadne @eff Get some help.
       
 (DIR) Post #AZOOaZJW2EDZVoZAA4 by starchturrets@mastodon.social
       2023-09-03T12:23:09Z
       
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       @ariadne Of all the hills to choose to die on...
       
 (DIR) Post #AZOOaaDWfz1MJWltSq by tante@tldr.nettime.org
       2023-09-03T14:14:44Z
       
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       @starchturrets @ariadne the EFF and many other libertarian leaning NGOs in the US have been speaking very loudly through whose rights they actively fight for. Nazis and right wing mobs always get more support than sex workers for example. It's such a big "blind spot" that they can't be unaware of it
       
 (DIR) Post #AZOWoF0f7ZIuEAmIxE by opendna@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-09-03T13:47:50Z
       
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       @ariadne @eff EFF: "To put it even more simply: When a person uses a room in a house to engage in illegal or just terrible activity, we don’t call on the electric company to cut off the light and heat to the entire house..."We do, in fact, do exactly that. We also seize the house, cars, bank accounts, children, and any other property related. Then we require the person, who had their property seized, prove their innocence - by litigation without any resources - to get their wealth back.
       
 (DIR) Post #AZOWoGqoHAbxwCBSsK by opendna@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-09-03T13:56:23Z
       
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       @ariadne @eff And just in case it isn't obvious to the EFF: we also do that for children seeking abortions, anyone who helps them, and for parents who refuse to abuse their trans children.When choosing who should get hurt, the EFF decided to support the terrorists instead of their victims. Al Qaeda would have been a more sympathetic client; at least AQ didn't receive material support from US state governments.
       
 (DIR) Post #AZObCTKlum0BQ7zgYK by StephanSchulz@fosstodon.org
       2023-09-03T15:00:09Z
       
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       @ariadne @eff I disagree. EFF is, as usual, taking the long and broad view, and they are right. As far as I can tell, KiwiFarms does not have a contractual relationship with with Hurricane Electric. So they are not bound by their TOS/AUP. I know nothing about KiwiFarms except what's in the EFF article. They sound horrible. But we do not destroy bridges because some awful people use them.
       
 (DIR) Post #AZObCVflDhymfnpTXs by fluffy@plush.city
       2023-09-03T16:25:22Z
       
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       @StephanSchulz @ariadne @eff This isn’t destroying a bridge, it’s putting up a checkpoint to stop drunk drivers.
       
 (DIR) Post #AZOfUszHfrWK0oylKi by fzorb@fedi.catin.space
       2023-09-03T17:24:13.750065Z
       
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       @ariadne @eff and you're brain damaged, probably cause of all of those drugs you overdose on every day.
       
 (DIR) Post #AZOi7SCDPxd67dXuIy by matt@toot.cafe
       2023-09-03T17:53:33Z
       
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       @tante @starchturrets @ariadne There's something really appealing about standing up for neutral principles, like freedom of speech and due process, that (at least in theory) limit the abuse of power regardless of whether one's favored side is in power or not. I'm happy to take whatever position is best for marginalized people, but I admit I still find the simplicity and neutrality of free-speech absolutism appealing.