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(DIR) Post #AZ0X1Bn0iXQCqwWc9Q by simon@fedi.simonwillison.net
2023-08-23T01:54:25Z
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Just had one of those horrifying I'm-old-now thoughts... I sometimes use Data from Star Trek as an analogy when talking about AI (like emphasizing that LLMs really aren't Data, even if they occasionally do a good impression of him)... except I just realized Star Trek: The Next Generation aired before a lot of the people I talk to about this stuff were even born!
(DIR) Post #AZ0XCeUqKGLx4UUe2q by paninid@mastodon.world
2023-08-23T01:56:06Z
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(DIR) Post #AZ0XPCuGDSxVGcMvg0 by daeken@haqueers.com
2023-08-23T01:56:12Z
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@simon Oof, this just made me realize that it started airing like two months before I was born, but it very much feels like part of my childhood, and now I feel old as hell too.
(DIR) Post #AZ0XoXCzs0oRTND3qq by simon@fedi.simonwillison.net
2023-08-23T01:59:08Z
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Now I need to find a new friendly, ethical, generally intelligent AI analogy that people under 30 will have been exposed toI guess it's probably Jarvis.
(DIR) Post #AZ0Y0dPKeGJgAokVCi by numist@xoxo.zone
2023-08-23T01:59:36Z
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@simon related content: https://mastodon.world/@jeffowski/110928644202627323
(DIR) Post #AZ0YBhjwsePunPfea0 by michaelgemar@mstdn.ca
2023-08-23T01:59:52Z
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@simon Welcome to the party, pal!(That’s *also* a reference they wouldn’t get.)
(DIR) Post #AZ0YOl8jYFw76YUN1s by gotofritz@fosstodon.org
2023-08-23T02:00:18Z
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@simon welcome to the club, it only gets worse from here!
(DIR) Post #AZ0YojJMyL4sxlqb8C by TTimo@mastodon.social
2023-08-23T02:05:42Z
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@simon yeah that would work. I tried to explain something with an analogy to photographic plates recently .. that didn't go well.
(DIR) Post #AZ0Z13suJ7SaFELlaq by ncweaver@thecooltable.wtf
2023-08-23T02:06:38Z
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@simon Or cortana
(DIR) Post #AZ0ZEJUtZSfeQnRCHw by scerruti@csed.social
2023-08-23T02:11:30Z
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@simon What signs do we have that Data wasn't just a sophisticated LLM?I wasn't convinced of the arguments made in The Measure of Man that Data was sentient. Picard argued that Data was intelligent and self-aware, but LLMs do well on IQ tests and often speak as if self aware ("As a large language model, I...")
(DIR) Post #AZ0ZPFVMkru3Eas99U by DocBohn@techhub.social
2023-08-23T02:12:34Z
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@simon This was my "I'm old now" thought from the other dayhttps://techhub.social/@DocBohn/110930271570817897
(DIR) Post #AZ0Zew8IY0afmoYxma by carlmjohnson@mastodon.social
2023-08-23T02:21:40Z
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@simon This is the terrible part of teaching. A movie comes out that perfectly explains your topic and then Boom! just five measly years later, none of the kids have seen it because they were all 13 when it came out.
(DIR) Post #AZ0a6ZihTIXkNlliqW by jonny@neuromatch.social
2023-08-23T02:29:01Z
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@simonpretty much all of our "AI" like characters that aren't just full on androids are evil in some way, for reasons.but id probably go with plankton's wife
(DIR) Post #AZ0dkfKGLeFJDM98wS by NIH_LLAMAS@mastodon.social
2023-08-23T03:09:58Z
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@simon I was thinking about this yesterday. Data is a one-off plot device/character. The actual state of reproducable AI is represented by the ship's computer, which is mindlesly helpful but sometimes obtuse. Star Trek gets it right once again.
(DIR) Post #AZ0eCOViSbo7Afj3x2 by ianbicking@hachyderm.io
2023-08-23T03:14:56Z
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@simon K.I.T.T. is definitely the way to go.
(DIR) Post #AZ0evYRyLsWX1tVbqy by InternetEh@dads.cool
2023-08-23T03:22:34Z
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@simon I'm only now watching it for the first time, and yeah it is strange how long ago it was made
(DIR) Post #AZ0fgmpchRCzF95qE4 by austegard@mastodon.social
2023-08-23T03:31:23Z
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(DIR) Post #AZ0fs9vLBRgG32BrW4 by mborus@mastodon.social
2023-08-23T03:32:28Z
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@simon maybe try Isaac, the Kaylon from the Orville, that show that’s more Star Trek than Star Trek and should be relevant for a few more years. (I had to google Jarvis… and I generally like Star Trek, but from the 90s on my access to spin offs was limited)
(DIR) Post #AZ0lmtOvmqHH53u2pE by kachumbali@mastodon.social
2023-08-23T04:39:56Z
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@simon use Spock then ;)
(DIR) Post #AZ0t359mXwyvqvU4My by fpbhb@mastodon.social
2023-08-23T06:01:11Z
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@simon Haha, same here. Audience was puzzled who the pale dude was … ;-)
(DIR) Post #AZ0vQRomesEMhivofo by radiac@mastodon.cloud
2023-08-23T06:27:44Z
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@simon It's available on both VHS and DVD, they have no excuse for not watching it regardless their age.
(DIR) Post #AZ0xKoQ3ukA2yIoCY4 by shl@genomic.social
2023-08-23T06:49:03Z
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@simon This is a bit beside the point now 🙂 but I had this thought some time ago that perhaps LLMs are in fact a great endpoint for storing information that would otherwise lay around as huge datasets. Wrote a bit about it here: https://livingsystems.substack.com/p/the-future-of-data-less-data
(DIR) Post #AZ11NkupnT4En4rSVM by jd7h@fosstodon.org
2023-08-23T07:34:36Z
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@simon Wall-e? R2D2? I would not describe Jarvis as friendly, I remember it as quite pedantic.
(DIR) Post #AZ1SWZuelvxM2CD33Y by ryanbmarx@newsie.social
2023-08-23T12:38:19Z
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@simon you could use Decker … oh wait … spoilers
(DIR) Post #AZ2BXhyykahBHz909g by Lee_Holmes@infosec.exchange
2023-08-23T21:02:36Z
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@simon But if they've gone for 30 years without the intellectual curiosity to watch it, are they even worth talking to?
(DIR) Post #AZ2D7tMW1DJMxfyFQe by objectObject@hachyderm.io
2023-08-23T21:20:41Z
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@simon what is Jarvis?
(DIR) Post #AZ9pJsFb8LyHLzaxiS by MishaVanMollusq@sfba.social
2023-08-27T13:31:41Z
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(DIR) Post #AZBv1OZXj5s68XPrE0 by colby@kosmos.social
2023-08-28T13:44:55Z
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@simon if you want to feel really old: it's already been 15 years since Iron Man itself came out. (The first film in the modern series, at least—it was released in 2008.)It's conceivable that in just a few years (let's say 3, maybe sooner), there'll be instances where you find yourself talking about this stuff to people who weren't even born then.
(DIR) Post #AZBxsK0lc8EhFPVz2O by simon@fedi.simonwillison.net
2023-08-28T14:16:45Z
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@colby oh no!