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 (DIR) Post #AYxVvvMBhfFB0n1ak4 by bandit@mastodon.nz
       2023-08-11T01:43:43Z
       
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       The hottest 21 days in history all happened in July 2023.Vote for the #climate
       
 (DIR) Post #AYxvK5wEVl6HdKVTvM by jawarajabbi@mastodon.online
       2023-08-12T23:54:26Z
       
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       @bandit Is that bad? 'Cause that sounds bad...
       
 (DIR) Post #AYxvK6uUthJ2eEhbrE by MarkBrigham@universeodon.com
       2023-08-13T01:50:11Z
       
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       @jawarajabbi @bandit Some Day we’ll look back fondly at the cool summers we had in the 2020s. I like the original toot in this thread because it includes an action we can all take: Voting for the climate. I.e. voting for candidates who back clean energy, sustainable agriculture, voting rights, education & science; for candidates who do not accept fossil fuel funds. Both sides are not the same.#phaseoutfossilfuels #NoFossilFuelMoney #OilyBoys #ClimateAction
       
 (DIR) Post #AYxvK7jtoaQHDekeye by publius@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-08-21T19:44:26Z
       
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       @MarkBrigham @jawarajabbi @bandit Thank everyone who has ever voted against nuclear power for this outcome.In 1970, the US electric industry was looking forward to shutting down the last coal-fired power station by 1995.In 1958, the humour columnist in NUCLEAR POWER magazine (Great Britain) suggested that the rapid displacement of other forms of energy by electricity, and of coal by uranium in generating electricity, would avert the danger of climate change due to CO₂ emissions.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYykZPpRw63tKSOeyO by MarkBrigham@universeodon.com
       2023-08-22T03:12:53Z
       
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       @publius @bandit @jawarajabbi While there is some truth here, let us also realize that nuclear is replete with its own environmental issues.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYym2ciZC5erehfVr6 by publius@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-08-22T05:35:11Z
       
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       @MarkBrigham @bandit @jawarajabbi "Replete"?Nuclear energy may well be the most-heavily-evaluated technology of all time. And on every point where it has been evaluated, it fares substantially better than pretty much anything which can be put forward as an alternative. Sometimes it comes in better by orders of magnitude.This in something like 70 years of exceedingly rigorous investigation.Most of the "environmental issues" claimed are distortions or outright fabrications.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYymkdLuCE3UMh3Rui by publius@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-08-22T05:43:08Z
       
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       @MarkBrigham @bandit @jawarajabbi Let me refer you to the ExternE and NewExt studies of the University of Karlsruhe, which have done an enormous job of synthesizing the available information about environmental effects of modes of energy production.Of course they don't deal with the effects of energy poverty and energy austerity, which tend to justify the statement "the only thing worse than coal is no coal".http://www.externe.info/externe_d7/http://www.ier.uni-stuttgart.de/forschung/projektwebsites/newext/
       
 (DIR) Post #AYz15Oc7aTGU5tQxu4 by MarkBrigham@universeodon.com
       2023-08-22T08:23:14Z
       
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       @bandit @jawarajabbi @publius 1. Mining’s effects on landscape2. Mining waste3. Human-health effects on miners (especially lung cancer)4. Toxic waste byproducts from nuclear reactors5. Lack of waste disposal infrastructure6. Security risks7. Three Mile Island (which was very close to catastrophe), Chernobyl, Fukushima I’m not saying zero nukes, but let’s not pretend these issues aren’t real.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYzpyb1U9CisDPoRZw by publius@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-08-22T17:53:51Z
       
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       @MarkBrigham @bandit @jawarajabbi Mining isn't great for people or the environment, no. Wind and solar require at least 10× as much of raw materials as nuclear. Therefore they require more mining. Meanwhile, with breeder reactors, the uranium already above ground as enrichment tails and spent fuel can meet the total energy needs of our civilization for centuries.As for the rest of your objections? There's no infrastructure for disposing of fossil fuel wastes ― we dump them into the air![…]
       
 (DIR) Post #AYzq99MhJqHncalcRM by publius@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-08-22T17:55:46Z
       
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       @MarkBrigham @bandit @jawarajabbi Nuclear fuel wastes are a million times less by mass, and a billion times less by volume, than fossil-fuel wastes. A method of safely disposing of them was reported at Geneva in 1958 by the Canadians, and has stood up to every scientific challenge.It has not been implemented yet for two reasons :1) political opposition by people who want to use "the unsolved waste problem" as an argument against atomic power ;2) not enough waste has yet accumulated.[…]
       
 (DIR) Post #AYzqPTuigeoTzAT4yG by publius@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-08-22T17:58:42Z
       
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       @MarkBrigham @bandit @jawarajabbi The Great East Japan earthquake and tsunami killed TWENTY THOUSAND people.The release of radioactive material from the stricken Fukushima Daiichi reactors, according to world experts, has had and will have ZERO detectible human health effects.The unjustified evacuation of people from the area around the reactors has killed at least a thousand, depending on what estimate you use.Even Chernobyl killed fewer people than the December 1952 London smog event.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYzqtebxTkWNqn50zI by publius@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-08-22T18:04:13Z
       
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       @MarkBrigham @bandit @jawarajabbi Antinuclear propaganda about Fukushima is cruel in the extreme, in the way it always says that the people who actually died, the destruction actually caused, should be ignored in favour of totally imaginary Horrors From The Atom.https://man-and-atom.tumblr.com/post/687375211680710656/meltdownAlso it's full of lies and distortions, like claiming that a graph of wave heights indicates "radioactivity", or showing off a burning oil refinery or chemical plant without properly identifying it.