Post AYfFwkv0CKxxftHwTA by itorres@social.xin.cat
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(DIR) Post #AYdX2fSuh9XxP8dRHE by fuzzychef@m6n.io
2023-08-11T23:29:10Z
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So, I wanna explain why #Hashi's "commercial use" restriction means a proprietary license.Theoretically, if you were using their project to work on an OSS project that you gave away for free, it wouldn't apply to you, right?Well, no.Take, for example, the Kubernetes Project. Kubernetes is a free, open source project, owned by a nonprofit. We also use Terraform to support our infra in a couple places.Should be fine, right? Nope!...
(DIR) Post #AYdX2hP5ULftPqrPai by fuzzychef@m6n.io
2023-08-11T23:32:17Z
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"All non-production uses are permitted. All production uses are allowed other than hosting or embedding the software in an offering competitive with HashiCorp products or services."Use of Terraform in Kubernetes testing infrastructure is certainly production use. And: Hashicorp produces Nomad, which is a competitor to Kubernetes.I think you can add this up, can't you?
(DIR) Post #AYdX2j8V2zaumz7C0u by fuzzychef@m6n.io
2023-08-11T23:34:30Z
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In fact, if you look at their actual terms, you'll figure out that the only people who can still use Hashi projects for free are home users working on hobbies, provided that those hobbies generate no income at all.That's not open source. That's Shareware!Yes, welcome to the return of Shareware.#Hashi #BSL #FauxpenSource
(DIR) Post #AYe8smhWjbQdCxBWKG by jbowen@mast.hpc.social
2023-08-12T06:42:11Z
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@fuzzychef The BS License seems a rather fitting name.
(DIR) Post #AYfFwk1hVwjKuNPmGu by mcepl@floss.social
2023-08-12T07:35:28Z
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@itorres @fuzzychef What? You **think**? Are you a lawyer? Are you my lawyer? How is your business insurance for damage caused by a bad advice doing?This is exactly what Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt means. Nobody is really certain and willing to bet their business on these terms, so many will just pay the protection fee.
(DIR) Post #AYfFwkv0CKxxftHwTA by itorres@social.xin.cat
2023-08-12T09:13:37Z
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@mcepl @fuzzychef Hold your horses. It’s as easy as reaching out to Hashicorp to get in writing what is your organisation use case and decide if you want to pay or not. I’m not a lawyer and obviously my previous message was not any kind of legal advice. Your aggressive reply is completely out of place in a civil discussion.
(DIR) Post #AYfFwltcYxSIhteLxI by mcepl@floss.social
2023-08-12T13:40:22Z
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@itorres @fuzzychef I didn’t want to be aggressive (and I am sorry @fuzzychef if I was) but to show how incredibly damaging and awful such jerk action as withdrawing commonly used program from FLOSS universe is.
(DIR) Post #AYfFwmgtbks3AihhlA by itorres@social.xin.cat
2023-08-12T15:16:57Z
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@mcepl @fuzzychefthank you. AFAIK they cannot re-license the past so it would be possible to continue using the Hashicorp versions prior to adoption of the BSL while migrating to an alternative or even fork if there is a community willing to continue development in an OSS fashion.And I completely agree with you. Hashicorp's change of license is, in the words of @bcantrill, "shitting in the pool of Open Source pool and disgusting corporate behaviour".** https://youtu.be/-zRN7XLCRhc?t=2518