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 (DIR) Post #AYYvhkRSWW21ozHDMm by anarchopunk_girl@kolektiva.social
       2023-08-09T02:04:08Z
       
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       I hate how children get to have absolutely no privacy or autonomy (bodily or otherwise) in the name of "parental rights" and protecting them. Discord recently introduced a feature that would allow parents to have a dashboard that lets them see who their kids are talking to and when and like — that would have actually made my life horribly worse when I was a teenager and my only friends were kids from a writing server online and I had to keep it secret from my mom because she didn't think online friends were real and that it was unhealthy to have them (despite her homeschooling me in the middle of a retirement suburb so I couldn't really make friends elsewhere). It would have actually probably led to the death or homelessness of one of my friends, who found me, and supportive people, and that she was trans, through that writer's discord. Fuck parental controls.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYYvhlSYjuVQygnbii by anarchopunk_girl@kolektiva.social
       2023-08-09T13:40:16Z
       
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       Like, to elaborate — children are still humans, and they still deserve, uh, human rights??Also, like, the answer to keeping your kid safe on the internet is not insane invasive surveillance that will make them paranoid and secretive and resentful, it's being open and nonjudgmental and accepting with them so they'll want to tell you everything major that happens in their lives themselves, and sitting down and having serious, detailed conversations about how to e.g. spot sexual abuse and grooming. This empowers them.But see, parental controls aren't actually used to keep kids safe. They're used to censor and control kids worlds, so that parents can use them like little dolls, trying to mold and shape them through the flow of information to create the person they want instead of letting the kid decide who they are based on full information themselves. Parental controls like these are used not to protect kids, but by parents who don't want them finding out gay people exist, or atheists.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYZ60ZwQmraoIZNhyK by dushman@den.raccoon.quest
       2023-08-09T20:16:23.706Z
       
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       @anarchopunk_girl@kolektiva.social Discord aside. The root of this whole issue is shitty parenting, some people should really not have children. Controlling parenting like that is extremely unhealthy and will in the end just make your children resent you forever.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYZ6CtJAbk8vq2t8qW by dushman@den.raccoon.quest
       2023-08-09T20:18:37.800Z
       
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       @anarchopunk_girl@kolektiva.social it's being open and nonjudgmental and accepting with them so they'll want to tell you everything major that happens in their lives themselves, and sitting down and having serious, detailed conversations about how to e.g. spot sexual abuse and grooming. This empowers them.Agreed. That's the healthy way to resolve such issues with your kid. Don't treat them like idiots, actually explain those things and reach a mutual understanding.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYZ6IyijOjb2MUkNWq by meso@the.asbestos.cafe
       2023-08-09T20:19:45.171206Z
       
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       @anarchopunk_girl >Discord recently introduced a feature that would allow parents to have a dashboard that lets them see who their kids are talking to and when Based
       
 (DIR) Post #AYZ6KnmX2SmN10OVdo by dushman@den.raccoon.quest
       2023-08-09T20:20:03.795Z
       
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       @anarchopunk_girl@kolektiva.social I hate how children get to have absolutely no privacy or autonomyI mean that depends entirely on the parents, rules set out by the law aside.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYZ6TodJF8YAGHNXNI by gray@ryona.agency
       2023-08-09T20:21:39.012804Z
       
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       @meso @anarchopunk_girl groomers btfo
       
 (DIR) Post #AYZ6g9TVZyGANPg0o4 by gray@ryona.agency
       2023-08-09T20:23:43.913708Z
       
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       @anarchopunk_girl waaaah parents are going to be able to see you trying to groom their kidsSir, please leave children alone.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYZ6r9VBoopxe7hz72 by dushman@den.raccoon.quest
       2023-08-09T20:25:56.180Z
       
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       @anarchopunk_girl@kolektiva.social Obviously you have to find a healthy middle ground between letting them do whatever the hell they want and controlling every aspect of their life. Both of those extremes don't lead to good outcomes. Setting boundaries mutually through dialogue is the best way to go.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYZ707cWBV44PrPgjA by meso@the.asbestos.cafe
       2023-08-09T20:27:33.497933Z
       
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       @gray @anarchopunk_girl this still isn't going to btfo groomers because Discord is made by ones but eh
       
 (DIR) Post #AYZ76pv0Oj25XfGKIa by gray@ryona.agency
       2023-08-09T20:28:40.879156Z
       
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       @meso @anarchopunk_girl if i had kids I wouldn't let them anywhere near Discord or Reddit
       
 (DIR) Post #AYZKw8TAU4LdFY27tY by enby_of_the_apocalypse@kolektiva.social
       2023-08-09T23:01:12Z
       
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       @dushman @anarchopunk_girl unrelated but Alita pfp? I love that manga so much.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYZKw9MTASaG13uI5o by dushman@den.raccoon.quest
       2023-08-09T23:03:40.268Z
       
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       @enby_of_the_apocalypse@kolektiva.social @anarchopunk_girl@kolektiva.social Yeah it's one of my favorites
       
 (DIR) Post #AYeYbgV984fRrhttZI by anarchopunk_girl@kolektiva.social
       2023-08-09T20:51:48Z
       
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       Even if invasion of the privacy and autonomy of your child was the only way to guarantee protection for them from online predators, it would still not be an acceptable thing to do, in the same way the United States' surveillance state is not acceptable even if it is the only way to protect us from terrorists.The horrors of the misuse of these systems, and the fact that they are much more likely to be misused then used for a good purpose, and will be misused far more often than they actually prevent something bad, and the fact that their existence will incentivize their own misuse, means that they are simply not worth it.The insane obsessive paranoid controllingness that invasive parental controls enable in parents, the way it enables parents to cut children off from needed support networks and friends, further indoctrinate, manipulate, and gaslight them by censuring what they can know, and prevent them from having the privacy and space to discover and experiment with things about themselves and their identity; the constant stress and fear that it makes children undergo, because they WILL still engage in behaviors the parents want to block out because those behaviors are necessary and natural, they'll just be forced to do them under an overwhelming pall of fear — none of this is worth it.We should not grant the evil, manipulative, abusive, controlling parents the tools to do this just because there are some parents who may not misuse these tools, just like we should not give politicians certain tools even if some politicians might not misuse them in your happy-go-lucky fantasy of there being such a thing as trustworthy authority.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYeYeLDSivYuidtbPc by scallopede@ravenation.club
       2023-08-09T19:29:17Z
       
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       @anarchopunk_girl Plus, kids are smart, so the efficacy of parental controls are often limited. If one application is compromised they'll use something else or find some workaround.I agree with your assertion that fully informing kids so they're empowered to understand their own decisions is the right move.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYeYekGVajqyPKVt8C by urbanfoxe@mastodon.ie
       2023-08-09T20:55:27Z
       
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       @scallopede @anarchopunk_girl US is the only country in the world that has not ratified UN Charter of Children's Rights.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYewKkwfkdh9coEj2W by dragonsidedd@sciencemastodon.com
       2023-08-09T20:21:01Z
       
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       @anarchopunk_girl There is a level of #surveillance appropriate for a 7-year-old. A very different level is appropriate for a tween or teen preparing for adult life.Jeremy Bentham may have had the single most evil idea of any social engineer in history.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panopticon
       
 (DIR) Post #AYewKoNMzppiGTkaZM by Archivist@social.linux.pizza
       2023-08-12T15:56:15Z
       
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       @dragonsidedd @anarchopunk_girlA 7yo should not have unsupervised access to the internet at all in my opinion