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(DIR) Post #AYMdMClDeKARQGDAmW by thor@berserker.town
2023-08-03T19:52:14Z
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WWII turned into a piece of history a lot quicker than anything that happened during my lifetime.just think about the difference in vibe between 1945 and 1965. 20 years.and then the difference between 2003 and today. also 20 years, but nowhere near the same contrast. the world is changing slower now.
(DIR) Post #AYMdMDd6PzGk7NQClk by mian@miniwa.moe
2023-08-03T19:58:49.633776Z
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@thorYeah, the 20th century was an explosion of both tech and social developenent. While the beginning of the 21st seems like a few of crisees (2001, 2008, 2020) where we learned nothing from.
(DIR) Post #AYMdTrGpQv5v5Ye6rI by mian@miniwa.moe
2023-08-03T20:00:09.406789Z
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@thorThe mobile phone seems like a paradigm shift in social relations though.
(DIR) Post #AYMdeP6qTXhivz0N60 by thor@berserker.town
2023-08-03T20:00:22Z
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@mian historically speaking, it feels like we're in some kind of intermediate period - some interesting developments here and there - but some period of history that comes later is going to get focused on more by historians as when things REALLY changed
(DIR) Post #AYMdim9ijQ1lZNQzhY by mian@miniwa.moe
2023-08-03T20:02:55.982977Z
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@thorLike the period just before WWI
(DIR) Post #AYMdzu0ulk0OrbTxQ0 by thor@berserker.town
2023-08-03T20:05:00Z
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@mian the Internet was bigger. pair Internet with computer/microchip, which is also bigger, and smartphone is kind of what you'd expect at some point - people were trying to invent it for a long time
(DIR) Post #AYMeKgwuXPhiQSWSdU by mian@miniwa.moe
2023-08-03T20:09:46.754111Z
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@thorMaybe its just my or mid milenial's experience but getting a cell phone as a teen, a phone that is only mine felt a lot more empowering.
(DIR) Post #AYMeiARN3XbYYGxpcO by mian@miniwa.moe
2023-08-03T20:14:01.473134Z
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@thorComputers felt ... like a distracton
(DIR) Post #AYMeona6RbnZgND6n2 by riderexmachina@mastodon.xyz
2023-08-03T20:09:56Z
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@thor That's disingenuous to say. In 20 years we've gone from pagers to pocket computers, from quiet local discourse to mass social media, and from optimistic anticipation to utter nihilism.Technologically, socially, and economically there have been astronomical leaps and bounds over the years. It may not have been as big of a bang as WWII, but it's been happening.
(DIR) Post #AYMeooLbaznQ3hR2pc by thor@berserker.town
2023-08-03T20:12:50Z
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@riderexmachina pagers in 2003? we had feature phones in the late 90s, at least here in Europe. in many respects, not so different from smartphones. they could even run apps. low-res small ones. but apps. and basic Internet access. and computers at home were pretty common, and so was Internet access. the leap to having that on a phone isn't so big.
(DIR) Post #AYMfCbieCPe9qIYm1o by thor@berserker.town
2023-08-03T20:13:39Z
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@riderexmachina i could easily talk to people in America from a pretty normal home computer in 2003. only difference was the smartphone let you bring that outside the home.
(DIR) Post #AYMfCcZ73Lc8T16fo0 by riderexmachina@mastodon.xyz
2023-08-03T20:17:00Z
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@thor I was slightly reductive to be alliterative. While there were some "smartphones" at the time, they were limited, hard to use, and usually only owned by business people.Your phone is 4x more powerful than your home computer was in 2003, and can do more things than you could ever think was possible at the time.
(DIR) Post #AYMfCdMk4pJSwwKJA8 by thor@berserker.town
2023-08-03T20:18:56Z
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@riderexmachina eh, i don't know, not much CPU power perhaps, but you could do a good number of the things teenagers continue to do today, such as texting, sharing pictures, checking the news. you had some Samsung clamshell phones with pretty nice features that non-geeky non-business people owned. they look ancient by today's technical standards, but
(DIR) Post #AYMfCdd36CMBlVxKa0 by thor@berserker.town
2023-08-03T20:15:06Z
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@riderexmachina in 2004 i was designing interactive web applications. granted, you needed to install the Java plugin, but i was doing it. the leap to today's web apps and smartphone apps is almost cosmetic.
(DIR) Post #AYMflXCyxhJhzKP4O8 by thor@berserker.town
2023-08-03T20:19:56Z
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@riderexmachina most kids in my school had cellphones by around 1998-1999 and you were getting colour displays, and you also had plenty of other portable digital devices already out
(DIR) Post #AYMflXtAQr3q6A8l8q by riderexmachina@mastodon.xyz
2023-08-03T20:22:21Z
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@thor T9s with internet access are not the same thing as smartphones.You can't take an old Nokia and compare it to the first iPhone. That would be like taking a piece of paper and comparing it to a plank of wood.
(DIR) Post #AYMflYRYN0ZBooEDjs by thor@berserker.town
2023-08-03T20:23:10Z
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@riderexmachina Nokia was kind of behind the curve at that point - their phones were popular but companies like Sony Ericsson and Samsung were making cooler phones already
(DIR) Post #AYMflZ7NrU1juXncwK by thor@berserker.town
2023-08-03T20:24:27Z
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@riderexmachina but i remember talking to Americans over the Internet at the time and they were behind us in the cellphone department
(DIR) Post #AYMflZixbm5Jn5NdVg by PeachySummer@nicecrew.digital
2023-08-03T20:25:49.474642Z
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@thor @riderexmachina *Teleports behind you in the cell phone department*
(DIR) Post #AYMp51NvtCBcfWtNIW by thor@berserker.town
2023-08-03T21:28:49Z
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@mian might have been a little spoiled there - had my own number wired to my bedroom - parents got tired of me hugging the phone with the modem