Post AYL0ldzdRhvxkg8Muu by 1dalm@deacon.social
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 (DIR) Post #AYKNT7ZBN9Bll1wBkG by brewsterkahle@mastodon.archive.org
       2023-08-02T17:50:22Z
       
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       "First, the Big 5 do not SELL ebooks to libraries. Not one. Libraries do not own title one from the Big 5.  We license them. And that makes all the difference in the world for cost, depth and breadth of collection, and preservation. Nobody should ever use the word 'sell' in a sentence combining 'Big 5' and 'library ebooks.'  This is not nit-picking.  It is the essence of the problem."  And they are suing to stop Controlled Digital Lending of the books we did buy.https://www.readersfirst.org/news/2023/8/2/big-5-license-terms-as-of-july-2023
       
 (DIR) Post #AYKTvQs7muM9SwgGVk by tptigger@starbase80.wtf
       2023-08-02T19:02:56Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle Ugh. This is why I only borrow ebooks from my library when they don't have the physical book.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYKcfX7Tgt6xnSM6gC by jillrhudy@mastodon.social
       2023-08-02T20:40:44Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle It is so horrible that all e-books from the Big 5 are metered. No perpetual licenses whatsoever for libraries. At least some audiobooks can still be bought outright.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYKdhLskXhVhTetiam by fencepost@infosec.exchange
       2023-08-02T20:52:32Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle and don't forget that the lending is almost entirely through OverDrive/Libby, now under the caring and benevolent ownership of KKR private equity, and they'd like their money.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYKqX8zmtkVi1EeW24 by CAWguy@mstdn.ca
       2023-08-02T23:16:11Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle It helps explain the absurdity of being placed in a queue to borrow an E book from the library.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYL0ldzdRhvxkg8Muu by 1dalm@deacon.social
       2023-08-03T01:10:56Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle How much does an ebook license cost a library?
       
 (DIR) Post #AYLA0ARGVf8a1Q3e40 by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
       2023-08-03T02:55:07.626113Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle Indeed, but most people refuse to listen when you inform them that they're just renting x thing rather than buying it.I personally do not support how you implement digital handcuffs via proprietary software to restrict the sharing of books.You may argue that's the only way you can make books restricted under copyright available, but unfortunately such copying doesn't count as fair use under current USA copyright law.In my opinion, copyright law should only apply to commercially related or proprietizing copying, but of course the businesses that control the US government will never allow for citizens to do anything that they imagine won't make them profit.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYLCPsll1ijOet24fY by themitchcohen@mstdn.social
       2023-08-03T03:21:21Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle  This is insane. Even under a capitalistic structure, they could profitably make special library editions, sturdier and able to withstand hopefully many, many rounds in circulation and charge, say, a multiple of 10x per copy. Now, they shouldn’t of course. 1/2
       
 (DIR) Post #AYLQigUoHWW7SBxtfU by Homebrewandhacking@mastodon.ie
       2023-08-03T06:00:22Z
       
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       @brewsterkahle Is this a case of #USPol being terrible again, and #Libraries needing defending from them, again?