Post AYKJN08rfDn9B1SCsi by staidwinnow@mastodon.social
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 (DIR) Post #AYKHGpBzGHdtZTqEiG by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
       2023-08-02T15:09:20Z
       
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       As I'm going through the indictment more closely.What I see: The goal was to for Trump to stay in the White House and then use the military to keep him there.So far I see two mentions from co-conspirators that they understand the timeline to be like this:🔹 Trump finds pretexts to stay in the White House.🔹 When the date passes in which he is supposed to leave, there will be "riots" in the street.🔹 Trump then uses the military to put down the protests.1/
       
 (DIR) Post #AYKHGptEfUEljc4m7k by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
       2023-08-02T15:13:04Z
       
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       In other words, people have settled on the "January 6 attempted insurrection."In fact, the planned insurrection was later. The violence on January 6 was just a step toward the pretext for the real violence when Trump would command the armed forces.Adding: I am not saying it would have worked.I am saying this was the plan. 2/
       
 (DIR) Post #AYKHGqY0DuqZm39KfQ by staidwinnow@mastodon.social
       2023-08-02T15:44:02Z
       
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       @Teri_Kanefield Oh, it’d have worked.  It takes far fewer soldiers to occupy a country when roughly half of it actually welcomes it.The modern armed State will almost always win.  Chiefly because the most potent response one thinks of is peaceful protests.  We saw what 800 almost totally peaceful protests in the summer of 2020 accomplished with respect to laws about police brutality.I do agree that we massively discounted the true violence that was being contemplated after J6.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYKHGqjLXjvALESOLg by Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
       2023-08-02T15:39:29Z
       
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       Trump's January 6 am meeting with Pence is basically Trump saying: Sorry I have to do this to you buddy. I have to single you out and make you a target. His attitude was: Business as usual.(This is short, so I  may edit to add more observations.)
       
 (DIR) Post #AYKHGrAzsw2TizOTRo by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
       2023-08-02T16:41:53Z
       
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       @staidwinnow > when roughly half of it actually welcomes it.I do not think this is the case -- on the ground, the right wing are a minority. What they have is rich folk and corporate power behind them, including media pulling the "two sides" thing.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYKJN08rfDn9B1SCsi by staidwinnow@mastodon.social
       2023-08-02T17:05:24Z
       
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       @tomjennings I know this is the case.  47% voted for that guy.Before someone gets into a rant about how "only 27% are Republicans," the context: 47% of those who voted voted for him, just like 52 of those who voted, did so for Biden.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYKZrK0xwP8YlTEtTU by blogdiva@mastodon.social
       2023-08-02T17:58:20Z
       
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       @JulieNye @Teri_Kanefield hiding in plain sight. blending in. Mitt Romney gave them a template to appear normal and not like the damn death cult they are.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYKZrMVAh4UGTjO2pk by Aviva_Gary@noc.social
       2023-08-02T20:10:10Z
       
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       @blogdiva @JulieNye @Teri_Kanefield The all of this ^
       
 (DIR) Post #AYKbOZBQfH9dJuY86S by blogdiva@mastodon.social
       2023-08-02T15:59:39Z
       
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       @Teri_Kanefield and let me add:THE COUP IS ONGOING the real coup happened in 2016. TRUMP *IS* THE COUP.Trump is everything American christofascists have been preparing for +25 years: War on Americans from the White House, the Supreme Court, Congress & State Capitols. they love Putin because they want everything Putin has and they got it with Trump: DICTATORSHIP-OF-LAW we called that Jim Crow. they want it back and all across America. GOP won't stop until they kill democracy
       
 (DIR) Post #AYKbOZyhi4ZNmjbTuK by jeff@federated.fun
       2023-08-02T20:27:22.615342Z
       
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       @blogdiva @Teri_Kanefield this "democracy" you defend is almost as legitimate as Saddam's iraq.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYKbQGSlEoPJq4SxCC by jeff@federated.fun
       2023-08-02T20:27:43.301062Z
       
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       @blogdiva @Teri_Kanefield joe is saddam and hunter is ude
       
 (DIR) Post #AYKbTaHY0Vq6AwnuJk by jeff@federated.fun
       2023-08-02T20:28:17.427112Z
       
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       @Teri_Kanefield you guys lost in 2016 and still cant get over it jfc
       
 (DIR) Post #AYKbaDiMJMUkD7VcfY by blogdiva@mastodon.social
       2023-08-02T17:13:26Z
       
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       @JulieNye @Teri_Kanefield 🛎️ 🛎️ 🛎️they are the reason i started blogging about american fascism, back in the aughts.i live in the east village. after 9/11,  schools in downtown manhattan were a mess. so i decided to homeschool "just for a year, until things calmed down". no sooner i start that i discover the world of Birken Bag fascist evangelicals in NYC. all with hedge fund husbands. all discussing , at play-dates & forums, dreams of taking the white house & apocalypse.just wild.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYKbaFUbhSgPj35fVo by jeff@federated.fun
       2023-08-02T20:29:23.770879Z
       
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       @blogdiva @JulieNye @Teri_Kanefield you sound like a parody of yourself jfc talk to people outside your bubble like hoky fuck
       
 (DIR) Post #AYKbbArcOZxTevILnE by romin@shitposter.club
       2023-08-02T20:29:44.613250Z
       
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       @jeff @Teri_Kanefield @blogdiva it's a republic.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYKbdZr4Rx3NkNBW7s by romin@shitposter.club
       2023-08-02T20:30:09.761420Z
       
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       @jeff @Teri_Kanefield @blogdiva if you can keep it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYKbf7BE28cfOOLSEK by jeff@federated.fun
       2023-08-02T20:30:21.509119Z
       
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       @romin @Teri_Kanefield @blogdiva and they lost in 2016 and still cant get over it like jfc dude
       
 (DIR) Post #AYKbkord2rHuK7tnpg by jeff@federated.fun
       2023-08-02T20:31:23.667584Z
       
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       @romin @Teri_Kanefield @blogdiva their democracy never existed it was a lie that was told to them that no one ever questioned
       
 (DIR) Post #AYKc057cseBH5gew6a by jeff@federated.fun
       2023-08-02T20:34:08.536760Z
       
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       @romin @Teri_Kanefield @blogdiva we in the usa live in a communist military dictatorship run by consultants. the conglomerates seized the means of production and installed themselves into power using capitalist socialism to perpetuate forever war in an effort to maximize shareholder profits.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYKc7F8i2AreBca4R6 by Pawlicker@bae.st
       2023-08-02T20:35:32.110806Z
       
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       @jeff @Teri_Kanefield @blogdiva @romin at least the communist dictatorships had some fun products like jank film cameras and Aliexpress tier clones of the Concorde. We don't even have that 💀
       
 (DIR) Post #AYKcEA63BKdqZbdVLs by jeff@federated.fun
       2023-08-02T20:36:41.536176Z
       
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       @Teri_Kanefield @blogdiva @romin we are the evil (and now super gay for some reason) empire that rules the world using terror and covert automated death, merchants of hypocrisy and tyrants of ultimate power.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYKcQvkpoiGPr9nkEy by jeff@federated.fun
       2023-08-02T20:38:59.958476Z
       
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       @Teri_Kanefield @blogdiva @romin i despise with every fiber of my being anyone who is fighting to defend that mockery of a system they call a "democracy". it's a fountain of the unforgivable of evils commited by man, the banality of evil.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYKcTZZ8loM5uNaimW by romin@shitposter.club
       2023-08-02T20:39:34.496675Z
       
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       @jeff @Teri_Kanefield @blogdiva not for too long, give it a decade or two.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYKcVaEvEfSIZs5q7c by jeff@federated.fun
       2023-08-02T20:39:54.143531Z
       
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       @romin @Teri_Kanefield @blogdiva yea yea 2 more weeks
       
 (DIR) Post #AYKcfYN72FDBgEg6gi by romin@shitposter.club
       2023-08-02T20:41:44.401630Z
       
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       @jeff @Teri_Kanefield @blogdiva said nervously the roman emperor for the nth time (before getting assassinated by his own guard)
       
 (DIR) Post #AYKcnVGmS84wNMVVlQ by jeff@federated.fun
       2023-08-02T20:43:05.938070Z
       
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       @romin @Teri_Kanefield @blogdiva it's be done by new years my guy. the illusions are gone, the mage retired and they forgot they needed to train a new guy
       
 (DIR) Post #AYLrJ8kvHrEaKjXuFs by sneak@s.sneak.berlin
       2023-08-03T11:00:22Z
       
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       @Teri_Kanefield literally everyone has had this plan. he failed to execute on it. remember when he looked directly at the eclipse? or caught covid? turns out being dumb really is bad for you.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYMKjfqtktX5BDLTCS by cadenza@universeodon.com
       2023-08-03T15:19:05Z
       
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       @staidwinnow @tomjennings except, and this is the important thing, he does less well every time he runs. I would peg hardcore Trumpers as 20-25% of the population. The rest voted for Trump because they didn’t like Biden. This election is really Biden’s to lose. So far he’s playing it right, letting the Republicans commit all the unforced errors. I’m not saying the danger isn’t there. We absolutely cannot be complacent. But there are a lot fewer people willing to sign onto the Trump batshittery than you think. For one thing, every time the guy is indicted, he’s been calling for his followers to riot in the streets. And each time, the crowd is smaller and politer. If that doesn’t point to his dwindling power, I don’t know what would.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYMKjgc2vbFLXRP7gm by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
       2023-08-03T16:30:08Z
       
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       @cadenza @staidwinnow Thanks Pamela. Staid, you are correct. I went silent because I was playing back my logic at posting what I did, knowing that the 2020 vote was hardly a landslide. I'd intended to reply today, not leave you hanging.Pamela stated it very clearly, thanks Pamela for articulating that.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYMMSk2R8cwh9FnPlo by staidwinnow@mastodon.social
       2023-08-03T16:49:30Z
       
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       @tomjennings @cadenza@universeodon.com Unfortunate that you outsourced your opinion to someone dictated by their enthusiasm for what appear to be stock Aaron Sorkin sentiments and who insults the other is a dialogue, accusing them of ignorance, but not answering basic questions.But, I will accept that as your response as you have indicated.Becwell.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYMMWky7cYRhBygz7A by staidwinnow@mastodon.social
       2023-08-03T16:50:13Z
       
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       @tomjennings @cadenza@universeodon.com Unfortunate that you outsourced your opinion to someone dictated by their enthusiasm for what appear to be stock Aaron Sorkin sentiments and who insults the other is a dialogue, accusing them of ignorance, but not answering basic questions.But, I will accept that as your response as you have indicated.Be well.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYMMuMzUQDQHmAakV6 by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
       2023-08-03T16:54:28Z
       
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       @staidwinnow Hold on -- did I miss something? I re-read and didn't see anything that appeared to be an insult, to you or anyone, and if I'm missing it, that's out of ignorance or naivete, please explain, as I had nor have any desire to to criticize you nor your statement, which was plainly factual. I'm not a passive-agressive preson. If I'm pissed/etc I'll bluntly say so. I took your comments to be reasonable and factual.Am I missing something?
       
 (DIR) Post #AYMNDWrlvf8duG7MPI by staidwinnow@mastodon.social
       2023-08-03T16:57:54Z
       
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       @tomjennings Yes.I was commenting on the posts of the commenter you delegated your response to.  If you feel like it, you may retrace to the first time she responded to me.  Then read the rest of the interactions.Or not.🤷‍♂️
       
 (DIR) Post #AYMWYQdFCbuqEvMYoy by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
       2023-08-03T18:42:33Z
       
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       @staidwinnow The first post I see from Pamela is this. And I will restate this is what I'm agreeing with.If you see an insult here it's opaque to me.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYMWdyHVWQvY37q3hQ by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
       2023-08-03T18:43:37Z
       
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       @staidwinnow The first post I see from Pamela is this. And I will restate this is what I'm agreeing with.If you see an insult here it's opaque to me.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYMXUQWrk7UgiU2F84 by Timi@mstdn.plus
       2023-08-03T18:53:02Z
       
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       @tomjennings @staidwinnow 😡
       
 (DIR) Post #AYMXcFxCwdkAEd5d1U by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
       2023-08-03T18:54:29Z
       
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       @Timi I'm sorry, I completely do not understand. I'm not being paggro; please explain.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYMXiIQCgPA5crX48u by Timi@mstdn.plus
       2023-08-03T18:55:32Z
       
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       @tomjennings Hmmm... interesting.. you assumed that was aimed at you, what's the matter, guilty-conscience? 😐
       
 (DIR) Post #AYMXooGbCFWq8496GG by staidwinnow@mastodon.social
       2023-08-03T18:56:40Z
       
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       @tomjennings @Timi LOLNo, Tom, that was directed at me.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYMXoxXEjlBWsH00wa by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
       2023-08-03T18:56:42Z
       
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       @Timi OK last try -- you sent me and staid a graphic "shame on you" with no explanation. Since I received it sans context, I asked for context.Please, I mean this honestly, use more words to explain what you mean.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYMY7zFea0FthRqdMW by Timi@mstdn.plus
       2023-08-03T18:59:21Z
       
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       @staidwinnow @tomjennings Aha! I see you have a guilty-conscience too. I never explain my memes, they speak for themselves.
       
 (DIR) Post #AYMY81iRPwTHLJKeVk by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
       2023-08-03T19:00:09Z
       
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       @Timi OMFG well you need to get a life that does not include me. Seriously I thought I left this shit back in high school. Do /dev/null with you.