Post AYEfYcGVIMZqdtD9Pc by hopeward@sfba.social
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(DIR) Post #AYEe6f6P3Nk3NYapt2 by grammargirl@zirk.us
2023-07-30T23:29:29Z
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Is there a name for the figure of speech "A is the B of C"? For example "Jill is the Martha Stewart of woodworking."It feels like a formulaic snowclone (e.g., "X is the new Y"), but I feel like I've seen a name for it somewhere that I can't remember.
(DIR) Post #AYEeJ8EGaQKpBnDWxk by homelessjun@mas.to
2023-07-30T23:31:43Z
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@grammargirl oh yah. this construction is so old someone had to have come up with a name for it and it is so old the name has been forgotten. i wonder if it's in my old history of english book...
(DIR) Post #AYEeYBq7RdzAjN6Qzo by SharonGibson3@newsie.social
2023-07-30T23:34:18Z
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@grammargirl Analogy?
(DIR) Post #AYEeomFVqJ7MHotEIa by aristofontes@mastodon.social
2023-07-30T23:37:26Z
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@grammargirl I'm not aware of a name, but I think the earliest example is Shaw's "Wagner is the Puccini of music," so I propose we call it a shawshank.
(DIR) Post #AYEeq7W2GAeSX6G64m by ModGalFri@autistics.life
2023-07-30T23:37:41Z
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@grammargirl Analogy?
(DIR) Post #AYEfYcGVIMZqdtD9Pc by hopeward@sfba.social
2023-07-30T23:45:41Z
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@grammargirl MetaMetaphor?? (I dunno…)
(DIR) Post #AYEfoQi21mtbR3cyNU by thanius@mastodon.chuggybumba.com
2023-07-30T23:48:31Z
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@grammargirl Analogy?
(DIR) Post #AYEgO722fHEYpg0Bfc by LK_Sass@mas.to
2023-07-30T23:55:02Z
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@grammargirl Phrasal template? Seems like a metaphor (topic-vehicle-ground). And is where I stumble home, loose language in tow, having used a simile to describe a metaphor. 🙄
(DIR) Post #AYEgfTQMfE1vCheny4 by zog@jauntygoat.net
2023-07-30T23:58:03Z
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@grammargirl https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowclone is in the ballpark ?
(DIR) Post #AYEgtBMAdTjLDqESRM by kdawson@tldr.nettime.org
2023-07-31T00:00:36Z
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@grammargirl "Structural similarity." https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0024384123000657
(DIR) Post #AYEhH9IfvttDnK1eIi by grammargirl@zirk.us
2023-07-31T00:05:00Z
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@kdawson Thanks! That's helpful.
(DIR) Post #AYEhW8aWrXANviWWbg by jimfl@hachyderm.io
2023-07-31T00:07:40Z
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@grammargirl it’s a logical analogy. A is to B as C is to D.
(DIR) Post #AYEiIxFFpBjswIqmCO by jessryan@bluenoser.me
2023-07-31T00:16:29Z
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@grammargirl snowclones dot org has a page about this one (linked). (The format was used on at least one episode of Archer… it feels like it should have a name!) https://snowclones.org/2007/12/18/x-is-the-y-of-z/
(DIR) Post #AYEj4zFDh5Bf2Zjnay by ginnyloveday@dice.camp
2023-07-31T00:25:12Z
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@grammargirl I don't think I've ever seen anything besides snowclone used to describe it. I'd be curious to know as well!
(DIR) Post #AYEmATGRoAItSJcPku by warren__terra@mastodon.online
2023-07-31T00:59:46Z
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@grammargirl Archetype sort of works, but it isn't what you're looking for?
(DIR) Post #AYEqiRAuTxNAddTqEa by mtblack@chirp.enworld.org
2023-07-31T01:50:32Z
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@grammargirl Either "comparative idiom" or "identity metaphor."
(DIR) Post #AYErOttw4LHFtSmxpQ by dbarbrow@mastodon.social
2023-07-31T01:58:25Z
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@grammargirl thank you for surfacing “snowclone”. what a joyful and clever word.
(DIR) Post #AYEu5wS2fBugAAOQlM by skalyan@lingo.lol
2023-07-31T02:28:34Z
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@grammargirl This is called the “XYZ construction”, and there’s a long history of research on it in construction grammar (starting from Mark Turner’s 1991 book “Reading Minds”).
(DIR) Post #AYEvv420LAgKOY9fxw by cwwilkie@zirk.us
2023-07-31T02:49:03Z
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@grammargirl I'm surprised so many people question whether you've heard of an analogy before.
(DIR) Post #AYEx5jyFMj3vJl3IhM by bohemianchic@aus.social
2023-07-31T03:02:09Z
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@grammargirl analogy.
(DIR) Post #AYEzyWCKTSFIRAt3Ue by lukasneville@mastodon.social
2023-07-31T03:34:30Z
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@grammargirl I don't know what it's called but this is my favourite instance of ithttps://youtu.be/cc5vN2XReWs
(DIR) Post #AYGL9zAjNhXvgEPOjY by polysyl@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-07-31T19:06:29Z
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@grammargirl I think this fits within the traditional meaning of antonomasia. From Lanham's A Handlist of Rhetorical Terms: "antonomasia: descriptive phrase for proper name or proper name for quality associated with it."
(DIR) Post #AYJgaOwgrLM5ek9sDg by RanaldClouston@fediscience.org
2023-08-02T09:50:48Z
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@grammargirl is X is the Napolean of Crime (for Moriarty in the Sherlock Holmes stories, but inspired by a real criminal) the most famous example of this phenomenon?
(DIR) Post #AYKqKHsoXkMvooGC0m by david@social.wub.site
2023-08-02T23:14:38Z
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@grammargirlI don't know what it's called, but I do know that this twitter account collects examples of it: https://twitter.com/AistheBofC
(DIR) Post #AYMG9ZRhhHRt4M5dUe by grammargirl@zirk.us
2023-08-03T15:38:41Z
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@david What a fun idea for an account.