Post AYCFAR06XS9LdEQg5o by freemo@qoto.org
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(DIR) Post #AYAYAoOP4sJOzeli9w by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T00:04:11.970893Z
32 likes, 21 repeats
number ONE mastodon leaver complaint: getting hectored about petty shit
(DIR) Post #AYAYKLfshoSEp0UVxA by Wolffkran@poa.st
2023-07-29T00:05:57.363000Z
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@Moon
(DIR) Post #AYAYTEsLLyokLDYkNM by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T00:07:32.530446Z
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article:https://erinkissane.com/mastodon-is-easy-and-fun-except-when-it-isntdon't be mean.
(DIR) Post #AYAZ1DVUwpUBwW4knA by Matchacatta@bark.lgbt
2023-07-29T00:12:35Z
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@Moon that's frustrating. They definitely don't make it easy
(DIR) Post #AYAZ1E7meU6vrFzKT2 by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T00:13:38.765774Z
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@Matchacatta I get it to some extent but it's just the bar is set soooo low. cwing food is just way too far.
(DIR) Post #AYAZ1XcGBOmKJHOR6m by r000t@ligma.pro
2023-07-29T00:13:42Z
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@Moon I don't think this side of the network is who is going to be mean to this person
(DIR) Post #AYAZ7fF0kJyFhDREcy by sevvie@collapse.pub
2023-07-29T00:14:49.316418Z
10 likes, 1 repeats
@Moon @Matchacatta cw: flowers
(DIR) Post #AYAZWCbcLgo07miGX2 by McMongoose@bae.st
2023-07-29T00:19:19.290712Z
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@Moon A lot of people on the "dark fedi" side stay because even though it isn't as fun, fedi stills offers them something to say. Unlike mastodon which offers you nothing at all to spend your time, not even talk and top of that it attacks you over the most petty and silly things.Mastodon hates you having fun
(DIR) Post #AYAZqpZNBxyAlCV26S by tomey@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T00:23:02.806934Z
17 likes, 7 repeats
@McMongoose @Moon >Mastodon hates you having funthere was an entire section of the article devoted to that point.
(DIR) Post #AYAZzZ282hQM5378XA by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T00:24:34.974081Z
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Number 2 amounts to poor discoverability/no search.
(DIR) Post #AYAa7nZ3tqnhSsRdfk by tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com
2023-07-29T00:25:40.216721Z
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@Moon Number 2 = poo discovery. :blobfoxmlem:
(DIR) Post #AYAaRXeil2bfusVRQW by coolboymew@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T00:29:38.426374Z
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@tomey @McMongoose @Moon A lot of these people are really going to have to make a decision at this point: Accept free speech and block/mute people yourself like an adult, or be forced to eat your vegetable in the SJW Internet or be stuck on big tech forever
(DIR) Post #AYAab4HmoEQHitJyEK by tomey@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T00:31:24.006877Z
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@coolboymew @McMongoose @Moon or delete social media and exchange type-written letters with your friends via the postal service.
(DIR) Post #AYAaf76oFtmZdX7FT6 by ten@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T00:31:30.936882Z
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@Moon read the article i too would go mad if i had to cw everything
(DIR) Post #AYAbEABCpVSRIQswVc by r000t@ligma.pro
2023-07-29T00:38:19Z
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@Moon Fixing number 2 is always met with exponentially more of problem 1.
(DIR) Post #AYAcNGRF1tRPGeHzUG by tomey@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T00:51:18.953468Z
5 likes, 1 repeats
@bot @McMongoose @Moon @coolboymew cw: eye contact
(DIR) Post #AYAddNeq3WwYFGtjYe by Calvin@cdrom.tokyo
2023-07-29T01:05:23.272604Z
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@tomey @McMongoose @Moon What’s Bluesky? Also, when will people acknowledge that Pleroma and Misskey exist? (And are better in most ways)
(DIR) Post #AYAeTZ250eiMa9eTPk by tomey@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T01:14:51.912911Z
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@Calvin @McMongoose @Moon whats a pleroma?
(DIR) Post #AYAfZa7BzvTJdBTbLk by Calvin@cdrom.tokyo
2023-07-29T01:27:07.706875Z
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@ten @Moon That might be a legit use for machine learning. Some already do ML-powered auto-tagging. So, maybe some underlying infrastructure could be developed to allow people to add their triggers to a list on their profile and let the system auto-hide any content with matching tags.The list would probably keep growing as the tagging system gets more sophisticated, so there’d need to be a way to spare the servers from having to transmit and match the entire list of each post with the profile’s.Since triggers for people with anxiety or whatever can change frequently, there’s no way it could ever be reasonable to ask people to keep up with adding CWs to everything according to their feelings and sensitivities.
(DIR) Post #AYAfeUtEqsXGsEIGRc by Calvin@cdrom.tokyo
2023-07-29T01:28:01.685817Z
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@tomey @McMongoose @Moon Trolling or serious?
(DIR) Post #AYAgKiQMvD0p0ovAum by tomey@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T01:35:40.569825Z
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@Calvin @McMongoose @Moon im just being an idiot
(DIR) Post #AYAgn3Lqi0NM1bJsIq by mrsaturday@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T01:40:47.787529Z
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@Moon What sucks is the kinds of people that would tell the scolds and shut-ins to eat shit stayed on Twitter
(DIR) Post #AYAigZDG3AiWirKtSi by kolya@social.cologne
2023-07-29T02:01:44Z
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@Moon https://mas.to/@kissane/110793942888550843
(DIR) Post #AYAiqnEam0Up6apuYy by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T02:03:51.616177Z
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@kolya thank you, but I did link it further down I think in a reply.
(DIR) Post #AYBDf4vEHYnL4CfohM by shpuld@shpposter.club
2023-07-29T07:48:53.753750Z
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@Moon pretty interesting observations, easy to imagine same complaints if I had landed on stricter mastodons and didn't know about gs before mastodon started dominating
(DIR) Post #AYBPor9HXqYohAfvuK by p@raru.re
2023-07-29T10:05:19Z
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please cw that, I need this space to be safe cause I'm a fucking immature pleb@Moon
(DIR) Post #AYBSVru4oY9pOeCVLE by butterdog@poa.st
2023-07-29T10:35:32.175584Z
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@Moon Having read the article all of those complaining are faggots as well; too concerned about upsetting people, constantly anxious about things, want to make everyone happy even when it makes them deeply unhabby (anxiety). I'm glad both groups are mad and that some of them fucked off for good.
(DIR) Post #AYBtylozChsFh3pFaK by aven@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T15:43:17.555412Z
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@coolboymew @tomey @McMongoose @Moon what they're really looking for is a place where1) I can hector everyone else about my pet peeves2) No one can hector me about their pet peevesThey want inequality with themselves on top. This isn't a valid rule-set for rules that are equally applied to everyone. So a rule-set isn't what they're looking for, at least not a fair one.
(DIR) Post #AYC3XdwNOakIyTzBOS by mrsaturday@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T17:30:20.577927Z
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@coolboymew @tomey @McMongoose @Moon I'd like to think there's room for an niu.moe-type middle ground, but with how militant Mastodongers are I don't know if that's the case anymore. Either way, the two main onboarding sites, MastoSoc and Poast, being so politically charged and divisive sets fedi back hard.
(DIR) Post #AYC6UocBYHj34esvAW by coolboymew@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T18:03:31.051916Z
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@mrsaturday @McMongoose @Moon @tomey the big issue is that SPC is already a middle ground instance. We're friendly with poast and with the trans instances that got rejected from the wider fediverseIt's legitimately impossible to be a middle ground instance and not getting shit
(DIR) Post #AYC8Mtt2GeXH137V7w by moth_ball@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T18:24:30.901644Z
6 likes, 1 repeats
@apophis @Matchacatta @Moon cw these nuts lmaoo
(DIR) Post #AYCESlPJJ3GYBDOZPs by freemo@qoto.org
2023-07-29T19:32:40Z
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@coolboymew Seems most of the fediverse have dug their feet in on that already. Sadly the freespeech instances have done everything in their power to convince people not to adopt that side of the fence.@McMongoose @Moon @tomey
(DIR) Post #AYCEZUpzJJNaoi5GOO by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T19:34:00.314341Z
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@freemo @coolboymew @McMongoose @tomey I am not responsible for idiots being against free speech, a historically illiterate position.
(DIR) Post #AYCEhrg0HOm1y2P7Nw by freemo@qoto.org
2023-07-29T19:35:29Z
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@Moon Ideas like fault is pointless. Its not about who is to blame and who is to not. The fact of the matter is the freespeech section of the fediverse has went out of their way to attack and abuse people who federate with them to the point that it is very hard to take a freespeech stance and still be appealing to most people.@McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey
(DIR) Post #AYCEqZPhYAalvqviwi by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T19:37:04.001368Z
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@freemo @McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey the people that came here in the last few years came here already against it. They defederated niue.cat and blob.cat. unless you completely capitulate to them they will defederate you.
(DIR) Post #AYCExf9Gcst1kIcoPw by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T19:38:22.432240Z
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@freemo @McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey stop acting like these people are normal people. why do you exert so much effort to be nice to people that will never, ever be nice to you.
(DIR) Post #AYCF4LKahlw6JJ6hXs by coolboymew@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T19:39:34.033407Z
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@freemo @Moon @McMongoose @tomey "Please save us daddy big tech, we're 30 years old babies who can't think for ourselves and will absolutely take a position that will forsake us all to hell because bad words or something"
(DIR) Post #AYCF6qLgLxuJ5ZoGGW by freemo@qoto.org
2023-07-29T19:39:52Z
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@Moon I run QOTO, an instance that strongly leans towards open federation, but locally doesnt allow free speech (our users will be banned for certain forms of speech, though we are rather forgiving in this regard).While we do sometimes have valuable interactions from free speech instances the issue is the overwhelming majority of interaction is from them dog piling and trolling with overtly racist and aggressive attacks. It is often so bad you cant even use the service without blocking most free speech instances... Blame who you want but even an instance like QOTO that wants to remain open is struggling to do so because it just makes the service unusable.@McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey
(DIR) Post #AYCFAR06XS9LdEQg5o by freemo@qoto.org
2023-07-29T19:40:39Z
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@coolboymew Its not about that... users can do the blocking themselves (and for now thats how we do it)... but it becomes a full time job for most of our users blocking instances on their own that, without doing so, means the system is barely usable.@McMongoose @Moon @tomey
(DIR) Post #AYCFGSKCWor5TZhUhc by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T19:41:45.092630Z
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@freemo @McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey I feel like you are blaming us for them hating you when they came here already hating people like you before they ever even met us.
(DIR) Post #AYCFID8Fz94Cw5wzia by coolboymew@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T19:42:03.154054Z
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@freemo @McMongoose @Moon @tomey Muting a domain takes 3 seconds dude
(DIR) Post #AYCFOoiDB1qdE2uz2m by freemo@qoto.org
2023-07-29T19:43:15Z
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@Moon Like i said before I am not "blamming" anyone.. Fault is a rather pointless concept... I am mearly stating that free speech is an idea I support but supporting is starting to become technically difficult causing people to adopt a non-free speech approach as its the only option that allows the fediverse to be usable for most people.@McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey
(DIR) Post #AYCFWal2wUVmGPx3Ng by freemo@qoto.org
2023-07-29T19:44:40Z
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@coolboymew Yes, and where there are 20 new domains a day that you need to mute and people are hoping instances and bringing up small one-user domains those 3 seconds become a big load.. especially when most of us wont block a domain the moment a single person throws a fit. Its usually only after several incidents someone decides to block. So thats a lot of noise per-domain someone must endure before they silence that one domain, one domain among a great many needing blocking for some.@McMongoose @Moon @tomey
(DIR) Post #AYCFYcm8PcFV6HQhZQ by coolboymew@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T19:45:02.379369Z
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@freemo @Moon @McMongoose @tomey This bad take reminds me of shitlibs and the Amazon driver story that heard the n-word from an automated doorbell speaker when it wasn't there and the dude got bannedAmazon will do everything to avoid an n-word story but they'll treat their employees like fucking shit and barely pay them. A complete consolation prize. That's where you're at, at the consolation prize
(DIR) Post #AYCFZ5CgiU7tGk4IqW by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T19:45:07.893370Z
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@freemo @McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey do you mean blocking servers or do you mean restrictive rules on their own servers? I am sorry I came into this conversation late.
(DIR) Post #AYCFcA7IuEJBNM1CTI by freemo@qoto.org
2023-07-29T19:45:39Z
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@Moon I am talking about blocking other servers, not the rules internal to your own instance.@McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey
(DIR) Post #AYCFlyXCp6I4LkoTFw by coolboymew@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T19:47:26.290810Z
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@freemo @McMongoose @Moon @tomey >Yes, and where there are 20 new domains a day that you need to mute That is patently false. This is absolutely not happening. You're making up a story wholesale to justify being a bitch who blocks everythingThere is no weird harassment campaign where people continually make up new domain and instance to just harass and be mean to people. I have never seen this happens
(DIR) Post #AYCFv6VgXXNhgwSFSy by freemo@qoto.org
2023-07-29T19:49:05Z
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@coolboymew It probably doesnt happen to you because you are one of the trolls, or at least, close enough to them (you arent as bad as most which is why i never blocked you)... But generally the people who dont participate in the trolling, particularly as a server, are the ones targeted.I expiernce this a few times a week personally and as an admin have had quite a few of my users complain about the same problem.@McMongoose @Moon @tomey
(DIR) Post #AYCG46cjUEZYeO2kvA by coolboymew@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T19:50:37.248321Z
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@freemo @McMongoose @Moon @tomey post proofI want to see within the next 7 days a receipt of all the domains you've blocked and the reason you are blocking them, coming from you and not from a 3rd party source
(DIR) Post #AYCG4SK2oOhBwnT8qW by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T19:50:42.897720Z
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@freemo @McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey I don't consider it a free speech thing to block other servers, you have a culture and you want to keep your culture intact on your server. people blocking wide swaths of the fediverse based on bad reasons is a different problem. I have mixed feelings about the term free speech server. we don't allow some things here. can any server really be free speech? I am trying to make us not be a vector for harassment but the line is very fuzzy.
(DIR) Post #AYCGBhvpAuhiNzb9ZQ by Pawlicker@bae.st
2023-07-29T19:52:07.289294Z
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@freemo @coolboymew @McMongoose @Moon @tomey this you?stop stalking me compressed.mp4
(DIR) Post #AYCGCkdeb1n74Sb3lw by freemo@qoto.org
2023-07-29T19:52:16Z
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@coolboymew You can figure that for yourself by going through my feed if you really care to. That isnt an exercise I need to invest time in since I dont see much value coming from that exercise.If I actually cared about proving my point that would be a good way to do it. I just dont have the energy to care enough to go through all that.If you'd like I can start tagging you when dogpiles kick in so you can see them though if you really care.@McMongoose @Moon @tomey
(DIR) Post #AYCGG2Azqc56Kel3QW by freemo@qoto.org
2023-07-29T19:52:52Z
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@Moon SureI do agree there are levels to this and blocking can be quite excessive.@McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey
(DIR) Post #AYCGXmHPgmoaF6Di9A by coolboymew@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T19:55:55.324715Z
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@freemo @McMongoose @Moon @tomey So, no proof then, the usual "it's not my job to teach you bigot" and etc etc.And how much anyone is willing to bet that the dogpilling comes from horribly bad political take that you personally allow and the user is then screaming "sealioning"?
(DIR) Post #AYCGduQQJloNF5MGwq by freemo@qoto.org
2023-07-29T19:57:11Z
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@coolboymew I have no issue with people dogpiling if its directly related to the topic, even if they are calling someone an idiot.We are talking about dog piling that usually has nothing constructive to say and is just word salad of insults most of the time.@McMongoose @Moon @tomey
(DIR) Post #AYCGfV8RJhFZNyhoA4 by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T19:57:25.371871Z
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@freemo @McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey i appreciate that you have treated us fairly and if you have problems you can DM me. But I am expressing that I think you are making a mistake by accepting the frame of, basically, highly-online politically aggressive people.
(DIR) Post #AYCGmm6acWkM2qJCOO by freemo@qoto.org
2023-07-29T19:58:47Z
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@Moon I mean, there is a reason you guys are still federated with... but as I said it is getting closer and closer to being impossible to maintain a nearly-open federation policy from a purely usability standpoint... we arent there yet though.That said i am working on technological solutions.@McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey
(DIR) Post #AYCGnVWLlb5gtlhuIC by mrsaturday@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T19:58:57.073582Z
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@Moon @freemo @McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey I like the idea of SPC as more of a "come as you are" server. The point of the server is less about politics and more about just bringing what you have to the conversation, but there isn't any gatekeeping over politics, either.Of course Twitterbrained canceldonners will continue to lie their asses off. They need a boogeyman. It was Trump, then Musk, now it's... us?
(DIR) Post #AYCH0rsdwguG0gVOzo by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T20:01:17.679515Z
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@freemo @McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey ok to make my position clear, if you defederate another server because it's incompatible with yours, that is sensible. if you defederate another server because you think it will satisfy a third server that wants to defederate from you, you are probably throwing the first server under the bus because it is almost always a strongarm tactic.
(DIR) Post #AYCH6einmZLUw7f6zw by freemo@qoto.org
2023-07-29T20:02:22Z
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@Moon On that point I wholly agree. We have never caved to third party pressure in that regard. @McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey
(DIR) Post #AYCHFNt7jq3TKneUhE by coolboymew@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T20:03:52.989426Z
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@freemo @Moon @McMongoose @tomey yet, you recommend the fediblock blocklist in your pinned statuses Curious
(DIR) Post #AYCHahkf56nN1NrP2u by freemo@qoto.org
2023-07-29T20:07:48Z
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@coolboymew Yes I do, because while I dont think servers should force a block list on a user I do think the user should have the option to block and an easy path to do so if thats what they want. If there is a user that wants low-moderated instances blocked they should have that choice and easy access to a block list to accomplish it.I myself dont use the block list, but I do understand its need for some users.It is also an attempt to address the usability issue I mentioned earlier while not needing to block at the instance level... a possible middle ground solution.@McMongoose @Moon @tomey
(DIR) Post #AYCHgonFoT42bAzKCm by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T20:08:54.859565Z
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@freemo @coolboymew @McMongoose @tomey individuals subscribing to blocklists is more or less okay, you don't see it from the fediblock people because it's as much about punishment as about safety.
(DIR) Post #AYCHlwhDrHBoYYbzxA by coolboymew@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T20:09:51.708725Z
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@Moon @freemo @McMongoose @tomey the issue is such blocking is that we've seen it from day one, bad actors adding to it and everyone else believing themI've seen it on twitter, etc
(DIR) Post #AYCHmbtMh2GQK5bm4W by freemo@qoto.org
2023-07-29T20:09:55Z
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@Moon I also tried to recommend a block list that wasnt too aggressive or ideological... just the instances that obviously are more or less unmoderated.@McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey
(DIR) Post #AYCHpf5HHV5r5ldSNc by freemo@qoto.org
2023-07-29T20:10:28Z
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@coolboymew Thats a huge problem in fediverse blocklists too... I get it there are a lot of blocklists that are fairly abusive in how aggressive they are.@McMongoose @Moon @tomey
(DIR) Post #AYCHrPCRJIzgPFohXM by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T20:10:51.077714Z
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@freemo @McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey ultimately blocking doesn't make you any safer from harassment so neither type of blocklist actually works but they probably think that the social sanction of server defederation will cause bad actors to leave. I think this has been proven untrue.
(DIR) Post #AYCHs5Cv7uKmguMg7M by josemanuel@qoto.org
2023-07-29T20:11:00Z
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@freemo I have to disagree with you there. It takes very little time and effort to curate your own TL. I interact a lot with free speech instances and I don't get all that many racist or sexist posts. Certainly not enough to make curating my TL a full-time job. On most occasions I don't even care to block or mute because I know I won't be seeing those accounts again.If you're referring to people like the sandwich guy, he was a very special case, fortunately.@coolboymew @McMongoose @Moon @tomey
(DIR) Post #AYCHt24oFhu3Gq1XAO by coolboymew@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T20:11:08.854943Z
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@freemo @McMongoose @Moon @tomey then why recommend it at all?You're saying stuff but then the actions doesn't match
(DIR) Post #AYCHwMe2EkTvvk5Zfk by freemo@qoto.org
2023-07-29T20:11:43Z
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@Moon I have found blocking unmoderated instances do a pretty good job at significantly reducing the amount of harassment one experiences.@McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey
(DIR) Post #AYCHx4JJt83VMEjeUa by APPTeOORuzvlGOetVY.verita84@poster.place
2023-07-29T20:11:54.440852Z
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@freemo @coolboymew @McMongoose @Moon @tomey They call it hate and racism. We call it noticing and stats :ray:
(DIR) Post #AYCI6AFFC5ukMvAMRU by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-07-29T20:13:31.776551Z
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What I love about the Fedi is that there's basically a market for moderation policies. Admins can make whatever policies they prefer and users will move to whatever instances work the best.Also, I think it can be shown mathematically that everything will eventually converge on almost completely free speech, so maintaining an authoritarian echo-chamber is basically an exercise in futility.
(DIR) Post #AYCI6cwoThP1O9lYEy by freemo@qoto.org
2023-07-29T20:12:54Z
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@josemanuel Yup, many of our users would agree with you, partly because our server policies would attract people who feel the way you do. That said many have had the opposite opinion as you.. its a mixed bag. I think it largely depends on your opinions and ideology, yours are probably less of a target than others.@coolboymew @McMongoose @Moon @tomey
(DIR) Post #AYCI6zwEzzbwh2fv2e by freemo@qoto.org
2023-07-29T20:13:39Z
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@coolboymew By not recommending one of the block lists that are abusive.. I can also always change my recomendation as needed if a better block list comes along.@McMongoose @Moon @tomey
(DIR) Post #AYCI8l9SwjxJPchWHw by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T20:13:26.628402Z
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@freemo @McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey I mean like, they can still read your public posts and do bad things like doxing. I agree with some of the mastodon people that blocking doesn't completely solve abuse.
(DIR) Post #AYCICKvIPCWtDxmL1U by freemo@qoto.org
2023-07-29T20:14:35Z
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@Moon Sure... blocking is not a measure that will completely protect you from bad actors.. but it does go a long way to reduce most of the more casual harassment and thus make ones experience here more usable.@McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey
(DIR) Post #AYCIHYCUT5CjqpJ8AS by jeff@federated.fun
2023-07-29T20:15:23.443053Z
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@cjd @McMongoose @freemo @Moon @coolboymew @tomey having sex with kids is not covered under free speech and everyone is okay with it being excluded from that too.watch who is afraid of that.
(DIR) Post #AYCIHsBo9KXfqV8rse by APPTeOORuzvlGOetVY.verita84@poster.place
2023-07-29T20:15:34.110010Z
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@cjd @McMongoose @freemo @Moon @coolboymew @tomey The only convergence that will happen is less free speech . Learn from history or NOW as we call it
(DIR) Post #AYCILigtPIp3XpW3NI by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-07-29T20:16:21.092304Z
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Also, there are no "influencers", which is a standard furnishing of echo-chambers.
(DIR) Post #AYCIOaQOb3OImDAONE by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T20:16:46.600584Z
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@cjd @McMongoose @freemo @coolboymew @tomey for all the problems people that want to know what's going on come to these places because information has to compete here for prominence while on their servers it can just be suffocated by one admin.
(DIR) Post #AYCIQFIU7TGPpVG1qK by jeff@federated.fun
2023-07-29T20:16:52.366211Z
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@tomey @McMongoose @Moon i like fun tho :sadlinux:
(DIR) Post #AYCITDcinYmTVY8mvo by coolboymew@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T20:17:41.230429Z
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@FourOh-LLC @McMongoose @cjd @freemo @Moon @tomey I do like my videos and such, but the last 7-8 years definitively have taught that ecelebs are most definitively cancer. I believe a bunch of them have been caught getting money for astroturfing too
(DIR) Post #AYCIggzcumFGMOHN3o by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T20:20:05.180955Z
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@a I am familiar with it but I don't see a huge difference but I am interested to hear more.
(DIR) Post #AYCIlASbIX0guSxvBA by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T20:20:56.270622Z
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@a I mean, individuals can subscribe to blocklists, not indivuduals running blocklists but I am not sure what you mean.
(DIR) Post #AYCItGf281EcSOdwFk by josemanuel@qoto.org
2023-07-29T20:22:23Z
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@freemo In any case, I think your general point (that free speech instances are frowned upon due to certain people being edgy) was true in the past, but not so much today. I believe those who came in the Twitter migrations wanted a place where they could feel relaxed and be themselves, and instead got a place full of ultrasensitive vigilantes.I think the tables have turned and free speech has become popular again (a necessity, even), because a lot of people feel constrained by all those “unwritten rules” mentioned in the article @Moon linked to.@coolboymew @McMongoose @tomey
(DIR) Post #AYCIyHq7AntDYpDgCe by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T20:23:16.810819Z
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@josemanuel @freemo @coolboymew @McMongoose @tomey even they still want rules but they don't want to be ruled by just actual nuts.
(DIR) Post #AYCJ0jXb9ROU3Pj2Rc by freemo@qoto.org
2023-07-29T20:23:42Z
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@josemanuel Im not sure if i agree on the resurgence of free speech.. but otherwise I agree. the Fediverse was ultra-sensative... some people who wanted more relaxed moderation moved in, they got attacked and "cancelled".. this in turn cause them to lash out by trolling, viscious cycle continues.@Moon @coolboymew @McMongoose @tomey
(DIR) Post #AYCJ1We0aOdWLU6Ljs by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
2023-07-29T20:23:54.700093Z
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My use of the word "almost" was not an accident.
(DIR) Post #AYCJ9MkXG4d7yStQO0 by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T20:25:18.188420Z
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@a I don't have a problem with it as long as users can choose to override it and the algorothm is transparent
(DIR) Post #AYCJB9br5EdnnggYlc by FourOh-LLC@pkteerium.xyz
2023-07-29T20:25:38.742342Z
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One reason that everything seems to be politicized lately is because the influencers and their political correctness.Some are more tolerable than others, but from the small to the large all the way to Joe Rogan and the Babylon Bee they are repulsive to me, and maybe to a lot of others too.A few are downright pathological, like Whoopie. Goodness gracious she is a moron!
(DIR) Post #AYCJM4MgvHlyihnVce by coolboymew@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T20:27:36.086854Z
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@josemanuel @freemo @Moon @McMongoose @tomey Very good postThere's a big issue of an endless cycle of big tech abuse because people don't jump in because of the "bad free speech" which then would make that the tables never actually turns, which why I'm rather critical on the thing
(DIR) Post #AYCJkKZoIfuvwvVDsW by PurpleCat@pleromaundermybed.ddns.net
2023-07-29T20:31:59.040415Z
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@josemanuel @freemo @Moon @coolboymew @McMongoose @tomey When people join "free speech" websites in 2023, there's a very darn good reason they would IMO.The be yourself social media culture (or at least the impression of it as Tumblr was giving off despite being a facade) has given way to neopuritanism, which is being fought with other forms of it. A website protesting bad internet laws was saying that they should be blocked for the very same thing the other side wanted to pass those bills for. Not any other reason, but literally that.The fedi thrives in spite of this blocklisting, not because of it, just because Twitter is so much worse unless you're a firstname lastname boring NPC who is trying to get those like/retweet numbuhs up.
(DIR) Post #AYCJmswdUW3Z7TOgOO by jeff@federated.fun
2023-07-29T20:32:13.841295Z
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@cjd @McMongoose @freemo @Moon @coolboymew @tomey :think_nyan:
(DIR) Post #AYCJqEyc29EAJpvCLo by PurpleCat@pleromaundermybed.ddns.net
2023-07-29T20:33:04.563206Z
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@coolboymew @McMongoose @freemo @josemanuel @Moon @tomey It's not even just because of that, it's also shit like "all my friends use this" or "I don't want to make an account on this site" or "I don't want to download this app". Even if they have other reasons (see Mumble simply not supporting as many features as Skype did), they cannot articulate it.
(DIR) Post #AYCJwC8HWLDPEgHd9U by coolboymew@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T20:34:02.614209Z
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@PurpleCat @McMongoose @freemo @josemanuel @Moon @tomey that's an whole other issue and one I've had issue for ages. Before Discord, it was hell to get people to stay on an IRC channel, christ
(DIR) Post #AYCK8V6umqU1ZOVoS8 by PurpleCat@pleromaundermybed.ddns.net
2023-07-29T20:36:22.223235Z
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@josemanuel @McMongoose @Moon @coolboymew @freemo @tomey It's also no longer just over speech or political speech. It's now over shit like what art is allowed to be posted online. This can be seen online, with shit like the Zamii070 situation (artist harassed for drawing characters wrong) giving way to the endless DNI posting, faux morals/puritanism over NSFW art, and arguments that boil down to a mix of "stop drawing what I don't like" and "drawings have rights". This, this is why Japanese fedi instances are booming, and why some instances like varis are so militant about going after those who they see as bullying another JP artist into wiping his gallery and going dark, which keeps happening on Twitter. No seriously, it seems like Twitter has unreal amounts of drama in the art sphere.
(DIR) Post #AYCKDmnmRE4Lt25AAK by PurpleCat@pleromaundermybed.ddns.net
2023-07-29T20:37:20.098708Z
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@coolboymew @McMongoose @freemo @josemanuel @Moon @tomey It wasn't if you had a chatbox on your website. That was the big thing before DIscord servers, you'd get an endless stream of summer posters.
(DIR) Post #AYCKIVETBkv4qMobJ2 by coolboymew@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T20:38:08.943078Z
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@PurpleCat @McMongoose @freemo @josemanuel @Moon @tomey website chatbox were sooooo comfy
(DIR) Post #AYCKPqlrVUz1fgwC1Y by PurpleCat@pleromaundermybed.ddns.net
2023-07-29T20:39:29.910528Z
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@coolboymew @McMongoose @freemo @josemanuel @Moon @tomey So in the good old days of Java and later Mibbit (which got replaced by some other web chat thing due to Mibbit being a literal proxy and klined from 109 IRC networks at least), every single website tied their chatbox to an IRC chat.I used to be a notorious shitposter in some IRC circles years ago haha.
(DIR) Post #AYCKb7jCnjBxRs4RQe by ChristiJunior@detroitriotcity.com
2023-07-29T20:41:32.840283Z
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@coolboymew @McMongoose @freemo @Moon @tomey Like it or not, the Nigger word has become the ultimate symbol of online free speech, and any community that bans it is doomed to become a shithole.
(DIR) Post #AYCKbkvH4n1F0b189g by coolboymew@shitposter.club
2023-07-29T20:41:37.636164Z
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@PurpleCat @McMongoose @freemo @josemanuel @Moon @tomey yeah, back in the days I tried have easy webchat links, easy guides to connect, etc. but man, maaaaaan, getting people to stay was hellWhat we need is a shift from from big tech and have people to be encouraged to explore the web again. Have a big web again with cool personal websites again, etc
(DIR) Post #AYCKlXR84YZg4sa7wO by Hoss@shitpost.cloud
2023-07-29T20:43:24.545194Z
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Saying nigger is more counterculture than the entirety of punk ever was.
(DIR) Post #AYCL78eCuze7ZBzyj2 by ChristiJunior@detroitriotcity.com
2023-07-29T20:47:18.610676Z
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@coolboymew @McMongoose @freemo @Moon @tomey I remember this crybaby freaking out about me replying to him from my DRC account after he had already blocked my Baest account a while ago ("Muh ban evasion!"). He ran crying to @admin about my actions and demanded that I be punished, and admin of course told him to eat a dick. Then DRC & friends dogpiled the shit out of him.If he'd just taken 2 seconds to block my DRC instead of being a Drama queen, he could saved himself hours of headache - THAT'S why these people can't deal with free speech and free speech instances.
(DIR) Post #AYCNuWfIbryu9bBdtw by wgiwf@poa.st
2023-07-29T21:18:40.323705Z
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@Hoss @McMongoose @ChristiJunior @freemo @Moon @coolboymew @tomey This is the real punk movement.
(DIR) Post #AYCNvklzdsUgCMu3t2 by Some_German_Guy@poa.st
2023-07-29T21:18:53.949994Z
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@Hoss @ChristiJunior @McMongoose @freemo @Moon @coolboymew @tomey unironically true.
(DIR) Post #AYCNxgl5XV4WKJP28W by ChristiJunior@detroitriotcity.com
2023-07-29T21:19:14.491620Z
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@wgiwf @McMongoose @freemo @Hoss @Moon @coolboymew @tomey Actual Freedom Fighter
(DIR) Post #AYCPBk3u9ah4a3T8ZU by admin@detroitriotcity.com
2023-07-29T21:32:59.134701Z
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@ChristiJunior @coolboymew @McMongoose @Moon @freemo @tomey That’s the guy we made this emoji —> :freemo: out of!
(DIR) Post #AYCfpzSBwgCtAQ2iDQ by coolboymew@shitposter.club
2023-07-30T00:39:29.453095Z
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@mischievoustomato @McMongoose @freemo @Moon @tomey they're usually from a handful of domains at best tho'
(DIR) Post #AYCkyQ8J8UFLzza6jo by Economic_Hitman@noagendasocial.com
2023-07-30T01:37:05Z
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@freemohttps://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Blamming@Moon @McMongoose @coolboymew @tomey
(DIR) Post #AYCmBM2blEG91ie9se by tomey@shitposter.club
2023-07-30T01:50:37.167306Z
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@freemo @Moon @McMongoose @coolboymew just mute a few slur keywords and problem solved.
(DIR) Post #AYDDQ5XG6lHMwREXIW by McMongoose@bae.st
2023-07-30T06:55:50.322182Z
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@Moon @freemo @coolboymew @tomey This nigga literally glows in the dark, he worked for FEMA or the NSA I'm not sure, but fuck anything he has to say. He hasn't had a good take since day 0
(DIR) Post #AYDDuK6UVYxYoO88OG by McMongoose@bae.st
2023-07-30T07:01:09.646939Z
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@freemo @coolboymew @Moon @tomey If you experienced inconveniences is because you went out of your way to become hated, some are hated because of the power they wield like graf or moon, but you're hated because you're a dumb idiotNobody here told you to defend rapists from due punishment or talk about the time you fisted a woman without consent