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 (DIR) Post #AY9aiEjKBLwOz4ezZo by ItsSkyDragonz@poa.st
       2023-07-28T12:57:58.674777Z
       
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       The "atheist because being forced to go to sunday service" thing is so fucking common. But as much as I want to joke about it, honestly starting to think maybe theres a reason behind it. Not just being lazy and a redditor, but an ACTUAL reason. Dont know how common it is, but at my church every service is like a cycle of go in, listen to a few of the 10 songs they know that have been on the christian radio station since 10-15 years ago, get another sermon on "jesus loves you", "dont be a hypocrite", "jesus died for you" and if were feeling crazy we get a bare bones explanation of a story we never heard.Seeing as I see this "atheist because of sunday" thing in other people besides faggy redditors (even though they never say they are specifically atheist, maybe theist?), It really makes me think theres room to improve
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9bKsJdS53MlF4JBQ by LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club
       2023-07-28T13:04:50Z
       
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       @ItsSkyDragonz An atheist here, who went through a few ceremons. Although, I am an atheist for a different reason.But ceremons do NOTHING for someone who doesn't belive. Hearing about Jesus's love for example is like hearing about the government that helps you...No matter how you argue it, you are wasting your life away listening to stories that mean nothing to you. So, I get, how that did grow a ton of resentment.Also, try to combine it to the world we grew up in. It was the world, where authority figures shat on our heads the entire time. So, listening to yet another authority to say how they care, just to ignore all the problems... again.... was not as persuasive as you might hope :D
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9cPzmDEvJ1IpRNuy by PunishedD@poa.st
       2023-07-28T13:17:06.103542Z
       
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       @ItsSkyDragonz My church growing up did hardcore theology during the main Sunday sermons.  Sunday School was preschool through 12 yrs old, you got all the regular Bible stories and the lessons, but you didn't know them yet at that age.  At 13 you were in the main service and doing deep dives into Hebrew vs the KJV etymology, apologetics, Law vs grace, the many names of God, etc.It stuck pretty well for me and my friends. Over the years we got some backsliders, but zero fedora atheists.
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9dHFdsywdTrCwMN6 by charliebrownau@poa.st
       2023-07-28T13:26:43.577001Z
       
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       @PunishedD @ItsSkyDragonz Yet to see a Judaeo Christian Church stop pushing the New World Mainstream Narrative None admit the truth aboutFasting + Ketovore/CarnavoreMudflood ResetOld WorldEarth is a BatteryEarth is a ClockElectroculture GardeningFood groundingReject Posion Pills and PokesetcHeckYet to see a Judaeo Christian Bank  and Judaeo Christian only town
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9dh6a5IJ4NHcUSUy by Boomerman@poa.st
       2023-07-28T13:31:23.871132Z
       
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       @ItsSkyDragonz Yea i cant stand the bizarre christian rock sect of the church. They pushed that shit heavy in the military. They pretend jesus is a marvel super hero and act more like a cult.
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9ei8Pa4cjVCjdFh2 by CatLord@poa.st
       2023-07-28T13:42:47.266941Z
       
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       @ItsSkyDragonz >TRIGGER WARNING TOXIC RELIGIONomg fuck off lol
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9epdoTinwYcbrCYi by Ottovonshitpost@mugicha.club
       2023-07-28T13:44:06.332065Z
       
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       There's truth to it. My church experience before joining the military was basically a mega church with Jesus rock, pastors driving luxury cars. Theologically it was as deep as a kiddy pool, and I learned more about running a 3 camera set up there than I did about their specific beliefs. Another was my stepdads friend, a negro huckster pastor who wore nice suits and drove a nice car while his "church" hopped from basement to storefront. I didn't go to church again for another 14 years.
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9f96s5uL0wFLpdGi by Boomerman@poa.st
       2023-07-28T13:47:39.507712Z
       
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       @Ottovonshitpost @ItsSkyDragonz Did they have a big non denom Christian rock church at you basic training base?
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9fGrkG1zXzeKrfKi by Ottovonshitpost@mugicha.club
       2023-07-28T13:49:03.418052Z
       
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       Like I said, I didn't go to church again for another 14 years and that includes base chapels. Great Lakes might have something like that idk
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9fND4Ney9pWYImlE by Boomerman@poa.st
       2023-07-28T13:50:12.748524Z
       
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       @Ottovonshitpost @ItsSkyDragonz They pretty much forced us on sundays it was big time fucked. Ended up in the catholic side which was much better but empty. Also haven't been back since.
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9fQ6CNf7up5CQCa8 by CatLord@poa.st
       2023-07-28T13:50:44.104585Z
       
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       @Boomerman @ItsSkyDragonz America in general has much strange Christian stuff. Megachurches, zionism, evangelicals with rapture and shit, snake handling, jehovas witnesses, mormons, etc
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9fQJp90JeBLBeqJ6 by Ottovonshitpost@mugicha.club
       2023-07-28T13:50:46.160610Z
       
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       I don't THINK I was as obnoxious as an r/atheism redditor but spiritually I was a redditor. Now I am an Orthodox Christian and not just online, either
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9fVHDY7caChmRATA by CatLord@poa.st
       2023-07-28T13:51:40.221214Z
       
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       @Boomerman @ItsSkyDragonz it all feels very chaotic, as an outsider looking in. trying to learn about this different things and where they came from is a task
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9fYwACLHmWZ7cCGG by Boomerman@poa.st
       2023-07-28T13:52:19.916481Z
       
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       @CatLord @ItsSkyDragonz Theres a specific type though. Like they believe Christianity is giving jesus ass pats in your mind. I know jesus is an object of worship but they treat him like an idol its weird
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9fj6FdguT8kR0RCy by RowdyRamzan@poa.st
       2023-07-28T13:54:10.213588Z
       
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       @Boomerman @ItsSkyDragonz Go to these churches for the wife and absolutely hate it. How protestants decided to jettison hundreds of years of tradition and ritual for christian rock is beyond me
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9fjkGkuB84rTptVA by Zealist@poa.st
       2023-07-28T13:54:17.205524Z
       
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       @Boomerman @ItsSkyDragonz my church does a couple worship songs then a chapter of bible with teaching what it's saying.
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9g2l93sAW352IthA by Boomerman@poa.st
       2023-07-28T13:57:43.266345Z
       
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       @RowdyRamzan @ItsSkyDragonz It was freaky when i went in basic. People would have these emotional freak outs and break downs at the mkultra being spewed they start crying and grab me and hug me. Not single thing would be read from scripture though. Just jesus rock and boomer telling us jesus cares or some shit and then "prayer" which was just a brief moment of silence for you too think before the loud noises kicked in again and people were back too freaking out. I hated it. Dont know how people do it and they always seem to be the biggest ones.
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9g5fyLYsUZuDgOci by Boomerman@poa.st
       2023-07-28T13:58:14.579806Z
       
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       @Zealist @ItsSkyDragonz Like shitty band rock or actual hymns?
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9g6IW0GBzdRbioMK by yockeypuck@poa.st
       2023-07-28T13:58:21.643493Z
       
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       @Ottovonshitpost @ItsSkyDragonz I too thought I'd seen through Christianity when in fact I'd hardly been exposed to it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9gB6Jv1nOR4QMMtc by Ottovonshitpost@mugicha.club
       2023-07-28T13:59:13.573685Z
       
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       Like I say, the average ameriprot experience is a mile wide and an inch deep
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9gUIE2zLm1UolTxQ by Zealist@poa.st
       2023-07-28T14:02:41.841440Z
       
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       @Boomerman @ItsSkyDragonz i dunno what hymns are just acoustic guitar music with songs
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9gWH2cMYiQOzMaie by Boomerman@poa.st
       2023-07-28T14:03:03.317763Z
       
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       @Zealist @ItsSkyDragonz Seriously?
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9gbweL5iRmtciAkK by Zealist@poa.st
       2023-07-28T14:04:02.901422Z
       
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       @Boomerman @ItsSkyDragonz i like the bible teaching
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9ggmD5KgtvxyGduq by Boomerman@poa.st
       2023-07-28T14:04:57.224511Z
       
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       @Zealist @ItsSkyDragonz Idk how you can go to a church and not know what hymnals are. Your church is doing something wrong
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9goMvJERXfrEZb6G by akariposter@poa.st
       2023-07-28T14:06:04.177898Z
       
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       @Zealist @Boomerman @ItsSkyDragonz >he's not Christian solely so he can listen to the stoner guitarist they hired for the acoustic hymns on Sunday
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9hBGHM6NK1uWnjyC by idea_enjoyer@poa.st
       2023-07-28T14:10:14.437497Z
       
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       @Zealist @Boomerman @ItsSkyDragonz I hope it's good man
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9hVxdMcQGMAJxvto by idea_enjoyer@poa.st
       2023-07-28T14:12:42.913251Z
       
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       @Boomerman @Zealist @ItsSkyDragonz I grew up in church that didn't use hymns muchHonestly I kinda like the hymns and liturgy thoBeen trying to follow along with SuperLutheran
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9hVyPvhr6wawgibA by Boomerman@poa.st
       2023-07-28T14:14:11.977465Z
       
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       @idea_enjoyer @Zealist @ItsSkyDragonz But like if you go to church you should at least know what they are.
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9hvGdd69kQLV9ne4 by DEERBLOOD@poa.st
       2023-07-28T14:18:46.675085Z
       
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       @RowdyRamzan @Boomerman @ItsSkyDragonz I like the solemnity of Catholic mass. I went to a baptist service for a girl once and it felt hollow and dumb by comparison. Christian rock followed by listening to the pastor's sermon for 40 mins then more contempory baptist jams
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9hyyiXfYL5vLDyEa by PorkCow@freespeechextremist.com
       2023-07-28T14:19:27.280146Z
       
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       @Boomerman @Zealist @ItsSkyDragonz Both churches I went to did both rock and organ hymns. Pays to live in a town that's 90% olds.
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9kSv7hnRLTNAOpUm by Victor_Emmanuel@poa.st
       2023-07-28T14:47:16.297056Z
       
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       @ItsSkyDragonz Some crazy shit happens in the Bible that’s just skipped over. There are several battles in the OT. In the new Peter straight up smites a guy. And you could always read from revelation just to spice things up.
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9kfhYhXZX34F7ZWy by Victor_Emmanuel@poa.st
       2023-07-28T14:49:34.871592Z
       
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       @LukeAlmighty @ItsSkyDragonz Ex atheists here. Yea the best sermons where when the Priest connects the Bible reading to our daily lives.
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9kmHPFAoORz3pmQy by LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club
       2023-07-28T14:50:43Z
       
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       @Victor_Emmanuel @ItsSkyDragonz Yeah... That had literally never happened :DBut also, the priest had no idea what my life even was, so obviously, there is a part of the problem.
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9kquJUSXJzoKLjoO by LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club
       2023-07-28T14:51:34Z
       
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       @Victor_Emmanuel @ItsSkyDragonz When I think about it, the ceremons were a great personification of 2 hour long "ok boomer" session.
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9lu36MLDiltEGmbA by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
       2023-07-28T15:03:20.414950Z
       
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       There are churches with good pastors who find more depth, but once again ... you aren't going to get anything out of it unless you're a true believer. Some Christians have the idea of "planting the seed" ... and that every little bit of exposure to the Christian world view is a step closer to accepting Jesus.Evangelism seems to be about whittling people down emotionally to conform to a world view, and the same thing exists in the new atheists meetups and events of the 2010s .. which kinda fizzled and went nowhere.Also, a lot of churches today cater more to the Millennials and Zoomers ... no windows, dimly lit, band on stage with modern songs, lyrics on screens .. they feel more like youth retreats that church services. I went to a Calvary Chapel that was like this last year, and the pastor had some political stances and was more in debt than average. Still .. it was way too long ... and there is a growing divide between those who prefer traditional hymns and the growing modern worship services.
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9lwTdsdPf6md6ffk by Omega_Variant@nicecrew.digital
       2023-07-28T15:03:48.325279Z
       
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       It's because that is all church services are anymore.Songs, and a feel good pep talk with emotionally charged preaching to get you high until the next visit.I guarantee you if you walked into a crowd and pulled an atheist a person of x religion and a Christian and asked them their beliefs and what it is to be a good person or whatever, their ideologies would along closer than most would think.The church has succumbed to the world and invited worldly teachings in.The Bible is the Word of God and that is power and truth. Christians no longer have that power and truth because they have abandoned the Word for a limp wristed version.I seen a thread earlier where someone thinks that "love your enemies" means you should love everyone.How is that? Did Peter love his enemies when he struck them down for lying about money? Did Paul love his enemies when he turned them over to Satan? Did Paul love his enemies when he said the Lord would repay Alexander the copper smith for what he did to him? Why did Jesus tell the apostles to take a sword?
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9m9iCHpaPhgnVj96 by Sui@decayable.ink
       2023-07-28T15:06:12.418434Z
       
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       > The church has succumbed to the worldThat's putting it lightly in some cases..[Btw dude don't try and reconcile OT and NT dude, that shit'll just give you a fucking stroke]
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9mJ28j3R0E98I2qG by Omega_Variant@nicecrew.digital
       2023-07-28T15:07:53.219111Z
       
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       Yep, there is a reason I rail against churchianity.I don't have any problems aligning the two 😗
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9mTHMrIAc6GqmnWy by LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club
       2023-07-28T15:09:43Z
       
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       @djsumdog @ItsSkyDragonz @Victor_Emmanuel > Pandering to zoomersI seriously don't feel like I'm pandered to :omegalul: The traditional singing was also the only part of the ceremon that had any real effect. Because even when everything else fails, the feels be reals
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9n9S3nvY9vb0z0Ns by Sui@decayable.ink
       2023-07-28T15:17:21.881806Z
       
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       Organized religion is as corrupt as government is, for a lot of the same reasons. Good for you lol, but leave some cherries for the rest of us to pick nig.
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9o4ZSN6IoL2ci7n6 by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
       2023-07-28T15:27:39.109740Z
       
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       Pandering may be the wrong word. It's the thing a lot of people seem to want in contemporary church services.There is something really neat about traditional church hymns. What's even better are Unitarian hymnals, which have the same styles of music, just with all the God and Jesus bits neutered.
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9p15ykLGOyhdlCwi by Nesano@detroitriotcity.com
       2023-07-28T15:38:15.916219Z
       
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       @Ottovonshitpost @ItsSkyDragonz As long as your willing to fight for what's White, you've got an ally in me.
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9p3OXkI4lurJEADI by EvilSandmich@poa.st
       2023-07-28T15:38:40.836243Z
       
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       @djsumdog @LukeAlmighty @ItsSkyDragonz @Victor_Emmanuel Lowest common denominator.Being in a big group of like minded individuals can feel pretty reassuring, until some questions come up and it turns out that the consensus at a church is *far* from "like minded".
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9pX7fFbuqzCHugHg by idea_enjoyer@poa.st
       2023-07-28T14:53:28.318334Z
       
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       @Victor_Emmanuel @ItsSkyDragonz Reading the Bible for yourself makes you look at the whole thing differently, church, what's acceptable in society, everything
       
 (DIR) Post #AY9q2I4uwRLSTMmSWG by RowdyRamzan@poa.st
       2023-07-28T15:49:41.318097Z
       
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       @DEERBLOOD @Boomerman @ItsSkyDragonz Yeah I'm not super religious but my favorite aspect of catholic services is knowing that my ancestors probably did extremely similar services albeit in different languages